Why did Vados pick Cabba?

[Raijinsou]

First of all, long time lurker, first time poster!

Getting down to business immediately. I was wondering ever since I watched the latest episode, why Vados picked Cabba to fight in the tournament.
Cabba doesn't seem to have any 'special powers' like Botamo or Magetta (durability) and isn't nearly as strong as Frost or Hit in his base form (which was implied and revealed to have been his maximum potential before he went ssj).
We see in his fight againt Vegeta that he is roughly equal to Vegeta in his base form. It is also revealed that Vegeta wasn't yet channeling his God Ki as he was saving it for later.
This leads me to assume that Cabba = equal to base (normal not God) Vegeta which on a universal scale should be? dare I say? weak?

In conclusion I would like to think that Cabba isn't the strongest Saiyan on his planet and there are those who are stronger. Perhaps those were invited first but didn't accept the offer.
And I hope they can at least turn ssj, and that it is just Cabba who doesn't know anything about the form.

[Chuquita]

I think he's the son of Planet Sadla's king (who may be stronger than Cabba), and the king sent Cabba in his stead to give Cabba that unique battle experience (and also thought Cabba could ultimately handle whatever was thrown at him in the tournament).

[Raijinsou]

I think so too. Maybe even a grandson in order to introduce more characters (3 generations) and not mirror universe 7 Vegeta too much. He is pretty young, maybe the King is too, who knows.

Still, I can see the King saying that he's busy or not interested as it could be that it's not fitting for a King to attend such tournaments. Depends on the Kings personality of course but still pretty interesting to think about.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It seems hard to swallow that Cabba would be part of a nice race of Saiyans who regularly go out and defeat bad guys, but doesn't know anything about transformations if other members have unlocked them.

Given all Toriyama's comments on wanting this tournament to be a simple story, I think it's likely that Cabba's the strongest Saiyan, or at least a top contender. (The king may be stronger but unwilling to leave, or maybe a few that are stronger are out on missions.) Even if none of the Saiyans on Sadala would normally place on a list of the Top 5 Strongest People in Universe 6, Champa saw Beerus with Saiyans and decided he needed a Saiyan too, Honestly though, Cabba's on par with base Vegeta during the tournament, but if Universe 6 in general isn't too different than Universe 7, that could still be considered super strong on said "universal level". Going by just the manga, there are only a handful of characters stronger than Freeza was back on Namek and he's continually used as a measuring stick after his defeat. Sure, Beerus didn't think Goku could defeat Freeza during BOG, but he and Vegeta have had another ~5 years of training at this point: ~2 years with Whis and ~3 in the revamped RoSaT.

Now having unlocked Super Saiyan, It's probably not even a contest for Cabba's superiority. But perhaps we'll see.

[Raijinsou]

Too much is left to the imagination. I think that it would be very interesting to see what is going to happen in future episodes. I would very much like to see what planet Sadla is like. Perhaps Vegeta's position as the prince of his universe will play a role. I also cannot imagine all the saiyans being very weak and having the same power levels as the ones from universe 7 (Raditz, Nappa etc.). It would not make for an interesting story. I remember Toriyama being interviewed and he was asked about Bardock and if he could come back to life. Toriyama replied that Bardock was very weak (about 10,000), so I think he meant by this that it would not be interesting power wise to having him brought back. If there are at least a handful of powerfull saiyans on Sadla I would be very happy.

We need more (super)saiyans

[BlackMagick]

Too much is left to the imagination. I think that it would be very interesting to see what is going to happen in future episodes. I would very much like to see what planet Sadla is like. Perhaps Vegeta's position as the prince of his universe will play a role. I also cannot imagine all the saiyans being very weak and having the same power levels as the ones from universe 7 (Raditz, Nappa etc.). It would not make for an interesting story. I remember Toriyama being interviewed and he was asked about Bardock and if he could come back to life. Toriyama replied that Bardock was very weak (about 10,000), so I think he meant by this that it would not be interesting power wise to having him brought back. If there are at least a handful of powerfull saiyans on Sadla I would be very happy.

We need more (super)saiyans

I think an interesting thing to factor in is the fact that we are looking at an alternate universe of Saiyans, not under Freeza's rule. Keeping that in mind, the Saiyans of Universe 6 may have had several different technological, biological, and/or psychological changes. They're basically superheroes in this universe, for crying out loud. Now, in relation to Saiyan battle strength of Universe 6, what I think is particularly cool is that the Saiyans of Universe 6 do not have tails. That means that they either have them surgically removed at birth or that they are an evolved species of Saiyan that dropped their tails. If you think about it, either of these could suggest that they are stronger than their Universe 7 counterparts. If they surgically remove their tails, that could be because the Universe 6 Saiyans don't feel like their tails are all that useful, which either means that the Oozaru form is obsolete or since they are superheroes, they may want to keep the destruction to a minimum. If they've evolved tails out of their species, it could be that they've gotten so powerful that they don't need Oozaru. Maybe they can sort of channel that great ape power in their base forms? But of course, even then, that claim may not be totally credible because the villains that the Universe 6 Saiyans bust on the regular probably aren't even close in battle strength to Freeza. And like it's been mentioned before, not a whole lot of characters are stronger than Freeza, but as a counter-argument to that, we've had quite a few battle strengths that surpass Freeza unreasonably, like the Androids. So I don't think it's too far-fetched to think that the Universe 6 Saiyans are stronger than the ones in Universe 7.

[dbgtFO]

Now, in relation to Saiyan battle strength of Universe 6, what I think is particularly cool is that the Saiyans of Universe 6 do not have tails. That means that they either have them surgically removed at birth or that they are an evolved species of Saiyan that dropped their tails.

The latter theory was confirmed in the manga and the character biographies in the Super History book or whatever guidebook it was.

[buutenks]

Vados picked a saiyan because champa said they need to have a saiyan on their team.

Now vados picked the ones who would try to win no matter what. This means that cabe is most likely the strongest saiyan.

Also cabe said they evolved beyond the need for tails. On top of that u6 saiyans seem to be polite. Plus in u7, there hasnt been a ssj since like forever, so i see no reason why u6 would be different.

Also, refusing vados' and in turn the god of destruction champa doesnt seem like a good idea, so most likely cabe is the strongest or as some said is the son of the king.

[Raijinsou]

Vados picked a saiyan because champa said they need to have a saiyan on their team.

Now vados picked the ones who would try to win no matter what. This means that cabe is most likely the strongest saiyan.

Also cabe said they evolved beyond the need for tails. On top of that u6 saiyans seem to be polite. Plus in u7, there hasnt been a ssj since like forever, so i see no reason why u6 would be different.

Also, refusing vados' and in turn the god of destruction champa doesnt seem like a good idea, so most likely cabe is the strongest or as some said is the son of the king.

This is true.

This is also probably true but may not necessarily have to be the case which I will come back to in a minute.

Well, it is BECAUSE they are so different that I think other saiyans (even if it's just one) are possibly stronger. Perhaps they might not be able to go ssj, but their base could be stronger than Cabba. It is also just a tiny bit weird that a child for no apparent reason whatsoever (except being the Kings' son) would be the strongest saiyan on their planet. I also would like to point out that one of the reasons why the saiyans in universe 7 were so few in number (a few thousand according to the last chapter in the Jaco manga) were because they were barbaric in nature and had no concept of a 'family' and so they didn't have or raise children.
Now what I'm trying to say with all this is that since the saiyans in universe 6 are more 'humane' I guess this also probably means that they are more numerous and could possibly be in the millions if not more. This also creates room and potential for very strong saiyans and I would hate it if Cabba again for no apparent reason is the strongest between a million other saiyans. There has to be something there but I'm not sure what yet. I don't think that Cabbe is like Tarble and that he's just a 28 year-old or something .

This could be the case but I just can't see Vados threatening to kill candidates if they don't join. Champa also said to Vados in the latest episode that he was surprised Vados was able to convince Hit to join the tournament. Now I know that Hit is stronger but still.

[Draconic]

Champa wanted a Saiyan on his team, after seeing Goku and Vegeta on Beerus' planet and Cabbe was available. I don't think Champa and Vados were putting their hopes in him, which is why the others who they've got were the ones with special abilities.

[Lord Beerus]

Now at this stage, I think Vados chose Cabba just for the sake of having a Saiyan on Champa's team.

[jplaya2023]

First of all, long time lurker, first time poster!

Getting down to business immediately. I was wondering ever since I watched the latest episode, why Vados picked Cabba to fight in the tournament.
Cabba doesn't seem to have any 'special powers' like Botamo or Magetta (durability) and isn't nearly as strong as Frost or Hit in his base form (which was implied and revealed to have been his maximum potential before he went ssj).
We see in his fight againt Vegeta that he is roughly equal to Vegeta in his base form. It is also revealed that Vegeta wasn't yet channeling his God Ki as he was saving it for later.
This leads me to assume that Cabba = equal to base (normal not God) Vegeta which on a universal scale should be? dare I say? weak?

In conclusion I would like to think that Cabba isn't the strongest Saiyan on his planet and there are those who are stronger. Perhaps those were invited first but didn't accept the offer.
And I hope they can at least turn ssj, and that it is just Cabba who doesn't know anything about the form.

vegeta turned ssj blue, what do you mean he wasn't channeling his god ki?

[Khin]

Kind off topic but how do you pronounce Cabba ? "Ca - ba" ? or "Ca - be" ?

[Raijinsou]

First of all, long time lurker, first time poster!

Getting down to business immediately. I was wondering ever since I watched the latest episode, why Vados picked Cabba to fight in the tournament.
Cabba doesn't seem to have any 'special powers' like Botamo or Magetta (durability) and isn't nearly as strong as Frost or Hit in his base form (which was implied and revealed to have been his maximum potential before he went ssj).
We see in his fight againt Vegeta that he is roughly equal to Vegeta in his base form. It is also revealed that Vegeta wasn't yet channeling his God Ki as he was saving it for later.
This leads me to assume that Cabba = equal to base (normal not God) Vegeta which on a universal scale should be? dare I say? weak?

In conclusion I would like to think that Cabba isn't the strongest Saiyan on his planet and there are those who are stronger. Perhaps those were invited first but didn't accept the offer.
And I hope they can at least turn ssj, and that it is just Cabba who doesn't know anything about the form.

vegeta turned ssj blue, what do you mean he wasn't channeling his god ki?

Vegeta used 'normal base' at the start of their fight and only later turned golden ssj and towards the end turned ssjb, so I meant at the beginning. We now know that Goku and Vegeta can apparently turn their God Ki on and off (I know that this sounds very weird). So it now goes something like this: Vegeta base < Vegeta SSJ < Vegeta God base (with God Ki aka Saiyan beyond God) < Vegeta SSJB.

[Chuquita]

Kind off topic but how do you pronounce Cabba ? "Ca - ba" ? or "Ca - be" ?

I'm almost certain it's a "be". He's got the same べ in his name as Vegeta does.

[Brettjr25]

Because hes strong? You have to put these things in perspective. Remember Freeza was one of the most dangerous beings in all of U7. Goku on the verge of super saiyan was able to put up a decent fight against him and managed to mop the floor with the most powerful foes gathered in the universe under Freeza army.

Cabba achieved SS just with a slight push so he had to be on that verge of SS lvl which made probably made him well known in his universe.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Champa gave her two instructions.

1. Get people who are sure to win
2. Get Saiyans

Logically, she got the strongest Saiyan she could find.

Not really all that complicated.

[MisterGuyMan]

Vegeta at base figured he could win the tournament against Piccolo and 18. He also shocked Kaio Shin with his power who can one shot Frieza. So regardless of what Beers feels about a suppressed Goku not being able to defeat Frieza, we actually have more evidence placing base Saiyans above Frieza. So Cabba, being able to match Vegeta, even in base, places him pretty high on the pecking order if we're talking about pure power. Piccolo and 18 are plenty strong and Vegeta felt he could beat them at base. Of course this makes him small fry compared to true heavy hitters but still deserving a spot.

[PrinceOfAllFans23]

Cabba is a saiyan so he has potential to just continue to evolve and get stronger as vegeta and goku have. Plus if I had two elite saiyan so coming to battle my men I'd bring somebody who an pick up their moves and use them which cabba does. He's learns how to become a super Saiyan with vegetas assistance. And since he had never seen the transformation before or ever heard of it I am led to believe that he is the only saiyan in his universe with this new power so he would be the top Saiyan on planet salad.