The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Khin]

feats>quotes. Or else frieza and buuhan are the strongest in the universe and goku and vegito would have lost.

vegito=goku+vegeta

buuhan=super buucolo+gohan

vegito>>buuhan

gohan<goku

buucollo<vegeta

Freeza is the strongest in the universe before he died.Gods doesn't count,that's why Hit is called the strongest in Universe 6,Majin Buu was sealed,Kaioshin are also gods.

And what feats does Goku have that put him above Buu ? Super Buu was heavily implied to be leagues above Goku and Vegeta.

statements that does't contradict anything >>>> anime-only things.

[ZombieVito]

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

Tao Pai Pai.
Post Karin Goku
22nd Kuririn.
Yajirobe
22nd TB Tenshinhan.
Piccolo Damaio.
Mister Popo.
God.

He gets healed after every battle.

[Khin]

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

Tao Pai Pai.
Post Karin Goku
22nd Kuririn.
Yajirobe
22nd TB Tenshinhan.
Piccolo Damaio.
Mister Popo.
God.

He gets healed after every battle.

IIRC.Toriyama stated that Roshi was that strong [ROF] all along if he puts his mind into it.He must be talking about Max Power Roshi,Which explains why he can bust the moon while Piccolo Daimao's power was only small nuclear level at best.Roshi decimates everyone on the list.

Did Roshi ever used his buff state besides when he busts the moon ? If he didn't,then i'm going with what i said above.

[ZombieVito]

Did Roshi ever go in his buff state besides when he busts the moon ? If he didn't,then i'm going with what i said above.

Yes. Roshi only used the form to destroy the mountain and moon.

[RandomGuy96]

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

Tao Pai Pai.
Post Karin Goku
22nd Kuririn.
Yajirobe
22nd TB Tenshinhan.
Piccolo Damaio.
Mister Popo.
God.

He gets healed after every battle.

Roid Roshi kills everyone on this list with ease, because he blew up the damn moon. Like, seriously, I don't think some people realize how big of a leap that is.

[Khin]

Jaco clears. I have him somewhere between stronger than Raditz but weaker than Nappa.

It was stated that Jaco can't handle adult Saiyans and he can only take out babies.So he's definitely not stronger than Raditz,unless you're talking about ROF Jaco.

[Bansho64]

Hypothetical SS3 Bardock vs Kaioken Namek Goku (Post Ginyu Zenkai)

[Khin]

Hypothetical SS3 Bardock vs Kaioken Namek Goku (Post Ginyu Zenkai)

Let's see...

Dragon Ball Minus Bardock
-- Base : 3,500
-- SSJ : 175,000
-- SSJ2; : 350,000
-- SSJ3 : 1,400,000

Anime Special Bardock
-- Base : 10,000
-- SSJ : 500,000
-- SSJ2 : 1,000,000
-- SSJ3 : 4,000,000

• DB Minus Bardock dies horribly.
• Anime Special Bardock also dies horribly.If it's only Base Goku w/o Kaioken,Bardock might have a little chance.

[dbgtFO]

Hypothetical SS3 Bardock vs Kaioken Namek Goku (Post Ginyu Zenkai)

Let's see...

Spoiler:

Dragon Ball Minus Bardock
-- Base : 3,500
-- SSJ : 175,000
-- SSJ2; : 350,000
-- SSJ3 : 1,400,000

Anime Special Bardock
-- Base : 10,000
-- SSJ : 500,000
-- SSJ2 : 1,000,000
-- SSJ3 : 4,000,000

Both versions of Bardock stomps Goku.

You have read that wrong. It's Kaio-ken Goku from his fight with Freeza. Only conclusion one can come to, when reading this:

(Post Ginyu Zenkai)

[Khin]

You have read that wrong. It's Kaio-ken Goku from his fight with Freeza. Only conclusion one can come to, when reading this:

(Post Ginyu Zenkai)

I misread it as Kaioken Goku against Ginyu.

[DanielSSJ]

Lines mean nothing in dragonball or else super buu>Goku in the buu saga XD

Lol Super Buu is indeed >> SSJ3 Goku.

Base Goku>>Super buu base.

How the hell does that work?! Even if you don't believe that the base Saiyans are weaker than Freeza, that's still way too high. Goku is about as strong as Vegeta, excluding Super Saiyan 3, and SS2 Vegeta couldn't even hurt Fat Boo, much less the much, MUCH stronger Evil Boo. So, tell me, how is base Goku stronger than Evil Boo?

vegito=goku+vegeta

buuhan=super buucolo+gohan

vegito>>buuhan

gohan<goku

buucollo<vegeta

Vegetto's power does NOT equal Goku's plus Vegeta's. Fusion is specifically stated to be stronger than the sum of both parts, so yeah, that doesn't work in the slightest.

SSJ3 Gotenks And Piccolo VS Gohan (mystic) and Dabura

Meta Cooler (All 10 billion) vs Buuhan

Tien and Chiatzu, Gohan vs Dr Gero

- The only two that matter in this fight are Gotenks and Gohan. Gohan is noticeably stronger than SS3 Gotenks and he doesn't dick around like Gotenks does. After Gohan beats them, he beats Piccolo almost instantly.
- Which Gohan are we talking about? 'Cause if it's at any point after the Room of Spirit and Time, Gohan stomps all on his own. Any time before that, and Gero kills them all and takes their energy.
- I don't think that there were actually 10 billion Coolers in that movie, but whatever. Either way, sheer numbers aren't gonna let him win against any form of Boo, much less Gohan-Boo. If anything, he'll do to them what he did to the entire population of Earth.

[apex_pretador]

Base Future Trunks (Before Gohan's death) vs Nail

Trunks rips him apart. My untrained SS multiplier being 25x allows for base trunks to be above ginyu level and still be a match for base gohan as SS.

Buff Buu runs a gauntlet! He gets healed with every battle, and he's not allowed to absorb whom he is going to fight next. In this case, it's Gotenks that can't be absorbed.

1. SSJ3 Gotenks
2. Piccolo Buu
3. Ultimate Gohan
4. Gotenks Buu

In my opinion, clearing everything depends on whether he absorbs Gohan or not.

SS3 gotenks breaks him depending upon whether this is post super buu battle gotenks or not.
If he gets past gotenks, then gohan rips him apart before getting planet-destroyed, and loses to gotenks-buu in a rather humiliating one-shot fashion.

Jaco [DB Minus and ROF Arc] runs the gaunlet individually.He gets healed after each fight.

• Goku [BODB]
• Goku [21st Budokai]
• Goku [RR Army Arc]
• Goku [22nd Budokai]
• Goku [Post Super God Water]
• Goku [23rd Budokai]
• Goku [BOZ]
• Raditz

Stops at 23rd TB goku, who can kill him easily.

SSJ3 Gotenks And Piccolo VS Gohan (mystic) and Dabura

Meta Cooler (All 10 billion) vs Buuhan

Tien and Chiatzu, Gohan vs Dr Gero

All gohan has to do is, stall for 5 minutes which he can do, and then gotenks defuses to become fodder.

10 billion fodders are still fodders

Add Yamcha, base goku, base vegeta, base trunks and still gero stomps

Also, I'll like to know what makes you beileve that BASE goku > super buu

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

Tao Pai Pai.
Post Karin Goku
22nd Kuririn.
Yajirobe
22nd TB Tenshinhan.
Piccolo Damaio.
Mister Popo.
God.

He gets healed after every battle.

Stops at old daimao
Young daimao blitzes him before he can react, same with popo.

Kami finger-flicks his head off.

Hypothetical SS3 Bardock vs Kaioken Namek Goku (Post Ginyu Zenkai)

SUPER SAIYAN 3 ? He can stomp even cell.

[buutenks]

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

Tao Pai Pai.
Post Karin Goku
22nd Kuririn.
Yajirobe
22nd TB Tenshinhan.
Piccolo Damaio.
Mister Popo.
God.

He gets healed after every battle.

roshi in rof was stomping freeza's men with easy, who at min were in the low hundreds, since freeza said they r second class soldiers.

He steam rolls through the list.

Edit; I imagine buff roshi to be as powerful as raditz.

[Lord Beerus]

Jaco clears. I have him somewhere between stronger than Raditz but weaker than Nappa.

It was stated that Jaco can't handle adult Saiyans and he can only take out babies.So he's definitely not stronger than Raditz,unless you're talking about ROF Jaco.

Yeah, I'm talking about ROF Jaco. Where he seems to be stronger.

[ZombieVito]

21st TB Roshi using his full power form [no stress and can fight like in the RoF arc] runs the gauntlet.

Tao Pai Pai.
Post Karin Goku
22nd Kuririn.
Yajirobe
22nd TB Tenshinhan.
Piccolo Damaio.
Mister Popo.
God.

He gets healed after every battle.

roshi in rof was stomping freeza's men with easy, who at min were in the low hundreds, since freeza said they r second class soldiers.

He steam rolls through the list.

Edit; I imagine buff roshi to be as powerful as raditz.

I'm talking about 21st TB Roshi, who is many times weaker than 22nd TB/RoF Roshi.

[apex_pretador]

RADITZ vs
Tien , Krillin , Yamcha , Popo , Kami , Yajirobe , Cyborg Tao , Roshi , Chiaotzu , King Chappa , Nam , Giran , Tsuresenin

(No kikoho , No paralysis , NO tail , No sword)


Perfect cell vs buu arc Piccolo , kid goten , kid trunks , base gotenks (pre)

Majin vegeta vs 120 freezas (no planet busting)

Saiyans and Namekians vs first form freeza (no planet busting, no merging, no Zenkai)

[Draconic]

I also think that Kame Sennin's buff form is very strong, since his Kamehameha in that form is stronger than pretty much anything else that comes after it, with it blowing up the moon and all. It's just that before RoF, Muten Roshi couldn't keep it up and actually fight in it. Hell, it is implied in the 21st TB that his Kamehameha could have killed Oozaru Goku, which is a confirmed multiplier of 10. I assume by that point Goku must have had at least a 50 power level, so that Kamehameha was able to kill a 500 power level guy. In that buff form he obliterates everybody in that list.

[jplaya2023]

captain ginyu vs the rest of his ginyu force + zarbon, dodoria, cui, appule, vegeta, gohan(guru unlock), krilian (guru unlock) and nail.

ginyu cannot change bodies, and the team has 10 senzu beans with them and 1 month of training/prep time.

Ginyu is unaware of what's going on

[DanielSSJ]

RADITZ vs
Tien , Krillin , Yamcha , Popo , Kami , Yajirobe , Cyborg Tao , Roshi , Chiaotzu , King Chappa , Nam , Giran , Tsuresenin

(No kikoho , No paralysis , NO tail , No sword)


Perfect cell vs buu arc Piccolo , kid goten , kid trunks , base gotenks (pre)

Majin vegeta vs 120 freezas (no planet busting)

Saiyans and Namekians vs first form freeza (no planet busting, no merging, no Zenkai)

- The advantage in numbers will not help them. Raditz destroys Team earth at his leisure.
- Base Gotenks is utterly useless. The rest are all weaker than Cell Games Goku and Cell demolishes them.
- Having a number advantage doesn't mean anything if your entire team can be wiped out in one large blast. Vegeta incinerates Team Freeza.
- As long as one of the Saiyans can create a false moon and that Freeza is restricted to his first form, the army of Ozarus and Namekians will eventually wear Freeza down. If Ozaru is not an option, then Freeza wipes them all out.

[Pocket-God]

The Demon king vs The Perfect Being vs Frieza's Punching Bag
Round1: Dabura(no spit) vs Perfect Cell(Against Goku) vs Tagoma
Round2: Dabura vs Full Power Perfect Cell vs TagomaGinyu

Bonus Round (for those who chose TagomaGinyu as the winner for round2) TagomaGinyu vs Super Perfect Cell