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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:48 am

Analytic wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:1) Imperfect cell (post) is too high compared to Kamiccolo IMO
2) Buu arc piccolo must be above SS trunks, or atleast very close, unless you believe that he did rigorous training in between buu arc & BoG, and buu arc piccolo must be dignificantly above CG Piccolo, not weaker than that.
3) Why do you have a power level for every attack?
4) I like your placement on freeza & goku
5) The jumps from Namek to Arrival of trunks are too large and are not even implied (except piccolo). Gohan doesn't even take a note of goku being stronger than on namek, let alone THAT MUCH stronger.
6) Nappa can't "suppress"
7) South kaioshin buu can't be thousands of times stronger than kid buu, because kaioshin saw south kaioshin getting absorbed, and said that he "transformed into bulky one" but not said anything about his power being affected. If he literally got thousands of times stronger , then Kaioshin should've commented on it.
1) What makes you say that?
2) Do you mean Kid Trunks? Also, I don't factor in newer material; manga only.
3) Why not? We've given numbers for the Kamehameha and Makankosappo in the beginning of the manga, so I don't mind coming up with some other ones for other attacks.
4) Thanks.
5) Trunks can take down Freeza in seconds, and Goku was even stronger than Trunks' initial expectations. Goku > Trunks >> Freeza >= Namek Goku.
6) He can't suppress in the sense that he can hide his battle power from a scouter, but he can definitely alter his power output.
7) I don't have South Kaioshin thousands of times stronger than Pure Boo.
1. You have him over 5x stronger than piccolo. I think that's just too high. He didn't do anything which needs that level of gap. Also why is he above #16 in the first place? #16 was ripping him apart, severely damaged him by hell's flash etc.

2. Buu arc piccolo should still be stronger than CG piccolo.
3. Makankosappo is a charged attack, and on KHH, well, 924 must be goku's FP, considering how at 23rd TB, an extremely injured , worn out piccolo was said to be much stronger than all humans + KAMI combined, and just one headbutt from goku changed it to near-death.
Also, if I'm not wrong, in its very first appearance, KHH is said to expel all of the power at once in form of an energy wave.
4. Also, I like base gotenks > Piccolo.
Base gotenks (pre) must be above SS trunks / goten as well. Gotenks thought that he has better chance to beat buu than either of SS kids.
5. Gohan stated that freeza is nowhere near what he showed his FP at namek.
Trunks >>> freeza <<< Namek 100% freeza
Also, no comment on powering up that much, or even powering up.
6. Ok, but I feel like 7500 is too high.
7. Yes you do :
~ South Kaioshin absorbed - 12,000,000,000,000,000
removal of all influence
~ full power - 3,600,000,000,000
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:11 am

My numbers for everyone's favourite arc: BUU ARC (Note - I'll try to follow multipliers but NOT FOR GOTENKS)

For reference - Full power Perfect Cell = 100


Pre budokai
25th TB
(NOTE: Gohan got the most out of the training because he lost power due to slacking off, while others are nearing their limits)

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Buu appears
Absorptions, and VEGETTO
The main battle, against final form of buu

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:43 pm

What are your numbers for Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan for the Cell arc?
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:55 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:What are your numbers for Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan for the Cell arc?
Kuririn: 150,000
Tenshinhan: 90,000
Yamcha: 72,000

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:45 am

DanielSSJ wrote:What are your numbers for Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan for the Cell arc?
Kuririn : 500,000
Tenshinhan : 300,000
Yamcha : 100,000

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ThePiccolo » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:03 am

DanielSSJ wrote:What are your numbers for Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan for the Cell arc?
Kuririn - 300,000
Tenshinhan - 160,000
Yamcha - 100,000

Also, what are y'all's numbers for the Champa Arc so far?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:11 am

ThePiccolo wrote:Also, what are y'all's numbers for the Champa Arc so far?
Botamo: 1.
1st form Frost: 2.
Piccolo: 3.
Assault Form Frost: 4.
Base Saiyans: 5.
Magetta: 6.
Piccolo(Makankossapo): 7.
Final Form Frost: 20.
Magetta(Lava Spit): 240.
Super Saiyans: 250.

Super Saiyan Blue: Can't be measured.
Hit: Hard to tell.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:31 am

ThePiccolo wrote:Also, what are y'all's numbers for the Champa Arc so far?
Botamo : Hard to tell.
Magetta : 250

Frost : 2.6
-- Assault Form : 5.2
-- Final Form : 52
-- Tired [Against Piccolo] : 13

Piccolo : 10
-- Makankossapo : 100

Goku | Vegeta : 5
-- Super Saiyan : 250
-- Super Saiyan Blue : 2,500

Cabba : 5
-- Injured [After he got his ass kicked by SSj Vegeta] : 3
-- Super Saiyan : 150

Hit : Unknown for now

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:23 pm

ThePiccolo wrote: Also, what are y'all's numbers for the Champa Arc so far?
Vados: 15,500
Whis: 15,000
Beerus: 10,000
Champa: 9,800
Hit: 9,000

Son Goku/Vegeta: 17
-- Super Saiyan: 850
-- Super Saiyan Blue: 8,500

Cabba: 17
-- Super Saiyan: 850

Magetta: 35
-- After hitting himself: 350 (I still need to see the fight again, might change).

Frost: 5
-- Assault form: 15
-- Final form: 50
-- Weakened: 22.5

Piccolo: 8
-- Makankosappo: 26-32 (Still undecided if the multiplier is the same or if it has improved).

Good Boo: 20
Son Gohan: 7.5
Botamo: 2.5

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:27 pm

I don't really think SSj Cabba is equal to SSj Vegeta.Vegeta completely tanked Cabba's punch in his forehead.And before that,he swatted all of Cabba's ki blasts.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:36 pm

Yes I know. I just don't list weakened states unless the fighter fights a new fighter while in that state.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by LightBing » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:21 pm

Zombie wrote:Yes I know. I just don't list weakened states unless the fighter fights a new fighter while in that state.
I find it very hard to believe that such a gap was due to a weakened state. Vegeta's a mastered Super Saiyan, Cabba turned for the first time. That's the difference.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:25 pm

LightBing wrote:I find it very hard to believe that such a gap was due to a weakened state
Well,Cabba got beaten into a tar by a guy at least 50x stronger than him.Everyone's reaction at that time implies Vegeta didn't held back.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:45 pm

LightBing wrote:
Zombie wrote:Yes I know. I just don't list weakened states unless the fighter fights a new fighter while in that state.
I find it very hard to believe that such a gap was due to a weakened state. Vegeta's a mastered Super Saiyan, Cabba turned for the first time. That's the difference.
No, there's no difference. The multiplier is the same.

Cabba got beat bad, he couldn't even fight back anymore before transforming.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Khin » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:52 pm

Not saying i believe this,but one could argue that when you transform into a Super Saiyan for the first time,your power will return to normal.Going by official numbers,Freeza Arc SSJ Goku was 150,000,000,meaning he's 3,000,000 in base,yet before he transformed,he seems to be so tired that he can barely stand and received a total beating from a guy 20x stronger than him.

Anyway,In the Dabra vs. Gohan fight,if Dabra is a 10,where do you guys put Gohan at ?
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:00 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Not saying i believe this,but one could argue that when you transform into a Super Saiyan for the first time,you're power will return to normal.Going by official numbers,Freeza Arc SSJ Goku was 150,000,000,meaning he's 3,000,000 in base,yet before he transformed,he seems to be so tired that he can barely stand and received a total beating from a guy 20x stronger than him.

Anyway,In the Dabra vs. Gohan fight,if Dabra is a 10,where do you guys put Gohan at ?
That is actually a good point. We can assume that since Cabba just transformed the form consumes more energy and weakened him somewhat. He also fired a lot of ki bullets, weakened him even more.

I'd put Gohan at 11.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:20 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:What are your numbers for Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan for the Cell arc?
Kuririn: 38,000
Tenshinhan: 30,000
Yamcha: 21,000
ThePiccolo wrote:
Also, what are y'all's numbers for the Champa Arc so far?
Vados: 1,550,000
Whis: 1,500,000
Beerus: 1,000,000
Champa: 950,000
Hit: 100,000

Son Goku/Vegeta: 1.8
Super Saiyan: 90
Saiyan Beyond God: 1,800
Super Saiyan Blue: 90,000

Cabba: 1.8
Super Saiyan: 90

Magetta: 1.5-75

Frost: 0.5
Assault form: 1.8
Final form: 60

Piccolo: 50

Good Boo: 200
Son Gohan: 45
Botamo: 0.4

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:29 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:What are your numbers for Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan for the Cell arc?
Kuririn: 38,000
Tenshinhan: 30,000
Yamcha: 21,000
ThePiccolo wrote:
Also, what are y'all's numbers for the Champa Arc so far?
Vados: 1,550,000
Whis: 1,500,000
Beerus: 1,000,000
Champa: 950,000
Hit: 100,000

Son Goku/Vegeta: 1.8
Super Saiyan: 90
Saiyan Beyond God: 1,800
Super Saiyan Blue: 90,000

Cabba: 1.8
Super Saiyan: 90

Magetta: 1.5-75

Frost: 0.5
Assault form: 1.8
Final form: 60

Piccolo: 50

Good Boo: 200
Son Gohan: 45
Botamo: 0.4
Such low numbers for SSB and Hit? Where do you place enraged Vegeta and SSG Goku?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:39 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Such low numbers for SSB and Hit? Where do you place enraged Vegeta and SSG Goku?
Goku SSG: 60,000
Enraged Vegeta: 5,000

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:40 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Such low numbers for SSB and Hit? Where do you place enraged Vegeta and SSG Goku?
Goku SSG: 60,000
Enraged Vegeta: 5,000
Why would Beerus use 10% of his power if 1% would do the job?

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