900 Minutes of Uncut Action, DBZ Season 1 Arrives

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:56 pm

D_Icon917 wrote:When the episodes play do they have the black bars on top and on the bottom of the screen?

If you have a fullscreen television, yes. If you have a widescreen television, no.

-Corey

D_Icon917 · Post by **D_Icon917** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:08 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
D_Icon917 wrote:When the episodes play do they have the black bars on top and on the bottom of the screen?
If you have a fullscreen television, yes. If you have a widescreen television, no.

-Corey

What? I have a widescreen tv, personally I like the black bars. So I wouldn't get the black bars then, damn.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:11 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
D_Icon917 wrote:When the episodes play do they have the black bars on top and on the bottom of the screen?
If you have a fullscreen television, yes. If you have a widescreen television, no.

-Corey

I have a widescreen monitor and they still show on widescreen movies. Is it different for monitors?

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:14 pm

Good news for CD Universe'ers. The DVD has shipped!

DBW · Post by **DBW** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:22 pm

JAPPO wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
D_Icon917 wrote:When the episodes play do they have the black bars on top and on the bottom of the screen?
If you have a fullscreen television, yes. If you have a widescreen television, no.

-Corey
I have a widescreen monitor and they still show on widescreen movies. Is it different for monitors?

Movies are typically framed at a different ratio than widescreen (HD) TV shows. If you were to watch One Piece or some other HD series on your monitor, it would fill up the whole screen.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:26 pm

DBW wrote:
JAPPO wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote: If you have a fullscreen television, yes. If you have a widescreen television, no.

-Corey
I have a widescreen monitor and they still show on widescreen movies. Is it different for monitors?
Movies are typically framed at a different ratio than widescreen (HD) TV shows. If you were to watch One Piece or some other HD series on your monitor, it would fill up the whole screen.

Thanks for the good answer. I don't have any widescreen TV-shows, so that must explain it.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:56 pm

The set has also shipped for those who ordered from amazon.

the1payday · Post by **the1payday** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:43 pm

Hey...I've been considering buying this set for a while now. I don't care about the widescreen issue...so please don't even start. I do however have a few questions about the set: Is $30 pretty much the cheapest I'll find it? Will most stores actually have the set on shelves on Feb. 6th or does it ship Feb. 6th meaning it won't be on shelves until a few days later? Thanks.

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi · Post by **Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:04 pm

the1payday wrote:Hey...I've been considering buying this set for a while now. I don't care about the widescreen issue...so please don't even start. I do however have a few questions about the set: Is $30 pretty much the cheapest I'll find it? Will most stores actually have the set on shelves on Feb. 6th or does it ship Feb. 6th meaning it won't be on shelves until a few days later? Thanks.

1) Yes, at the moment, that is the cheapest you can get it for.

2) Most stores will have it on the 6th, because the stores should already have it right now, because they've probably already been shipped.

KillerCory · Post by **KillerCory** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:21 pm

BestBuy should have it.

I went by on Saturday and they were just putting up about 20 copies of it.

Now, I started watching DBZ in 1998 and after watching a few episodes here are my 2 cents.

- Format: The widescreen is not as bad as I expected it to be. But it is still bad. I would perfer 4:3 to this any day.

- Cleaning/Color: I actually like the new color and the picture quality looks better. They didn't do a perfect job in the cleaning aspect but when comparing to the UUE dvd side-by-side it is a big improvement.

- BGM: This is the one thing I enjoy. I really liked the fact that they have the Japanese BGM for DB and I'm glad they(finally) added it to DBZ.

- Revised Audio?: I know that the script comes from the UUE, but I have not seen any other changes. There are some things that SHOULD have been changed but were not! (from the first 4 episodes I have watched)
1. Raditz - explaining how plant Vegeta was destoryed three years ago.
2. Piccolo - saying how Raditz is faster than the speed of light...when he dodged his beam.

Well that's about it so far.

the1payday · Post by **the1payday** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:16 am

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi wrote:
the1payday wrote:Hey...I've been considering buying this set for a while now. I don't care about the widescreen issue...so please don't even start. I do however have a few questions about the set: Is $30 pretty much the cheapest I'll find it? Will most stores actually have the set on shelves on Feb. 6th or does it ship Feb. 6th meaning it won't be on shelves until a few days later? Thanks.
1) Yes, at the moment, that is the cheapest you can get it for.

2) Most stores will have it on the 6th, because the stores should already have it right now, because they've probably already been shipped.

I'm probably going to be picking mine up at Target (I have a gift card) so if anyone gets their set from there, or has already gotten it, please tell me.

nesguy · Post by **nesguy** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:48 am

Hey guys. Just my two cents:

I'm planning on picking up the Season 1 and 2 sets for the audio and subtitles only. I'm buying the Dragonbox single DVD's and using the video off of those to remake the DVD's "the way it was meant to be seen." With a little reauthoring I can make DVD's that have fullscreen, Japanese and English Audio, and English subtitles. The bonus of all of it is that it's perfectly legal since I own both sets of DVD's

I'm thinking about picking up one of those Lightscribe DVD burners, so that when the process is all done, I can even have cool looking DVD's instead of just Sharpie'd DVD-R's. Slap those into a case with custom cover (SelMod's look awesome) and I have the "Perfect, Definitive, Ultimate, Uncut, Awesome-ness up the wazoo Set"! Funi gets their money, and I get my uncut early episodes!

I may actually continue to pick up the remaining seasons too, just to finish out the process. Using the Dragonbox video might be worth it, and I think it may actually be fairly close in price to what I would pay for the old DVD boxsets. Either way, it'll be pretty cool to have a whole shelf of my custom sets sitting next to Funi's supposedly perfect ones. Just my two (and a half) cents on the whole thing.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:40 am

Well as long as you do not sell or distrbute your "perfect" copy then it's all kosher I geuss. That would take some work though....

You can tell I don't know squat about video editing can't you?

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:36 am

nesguy wrote:Hey guys. Just my two cents:

I'm planning on picking up the Season 1 and 2 sets for the audio and subtitles only. I'm buying the Dragonbox single DVD's and using the video off of those to remake the DVD's "the way it was meant to be seen." With a little reauthoring I can make DVD's that have fullscreen, Japanese and English Audio, and English subtitles. The bonus of all of it is that it's perfectly legal since I own both sets of DVD's I'm thinking about picking up one of those Lightscribe DVD burners, so that when the process is all done, I can even have cool looking DVD's instead of just Sharpie'd DVD-R's. Slap those into a case with custom cover (SelMod's look awesome) and I have the "Perfect, Definitive, Ultimate, Uncut, Awesome-ness up the wazoo Set"! Funi gets their money, and I get my uncut early episodes!

I may actually continue to pick up the remaining seasons too, just to finish out the process. Using the Dragonbox video might be worth it, and I think it may actually be fairly close in price to what I would pay for the old DVD boxsets. Either way, it'll be pretty cool to have a whole shelf of my custom sets sitting next to Funi's supposedly perfect ones. Just my two (and a half) cents on the whole thing.

This is what I'm doing for myself, minus any parts of the english dub. But instead of re-burning the stuff to discs, I'm just making full-quality MKV files with the actual MPEG2 and AC3 streams from the DragonBox singles in them with subtitles from the english. But I'm getting another harddrive and just watching them from the PC (which I can connect to a TV). I don't see a substantial reason to re-burn them to discs personally. Harddrives are always coming down in price, and if you're paying for DragonBox discs, then another 350 or 400 gig hard drive isn't that much more these days (which is what it'll take, given each episode is then about 1.1 gigs a piece)

The only issue you run into is timing issues (the subtitles need to ofset by a half second or two). I imagine you'll run into larger problems on the audio side due to some episodes missing the eyecatches, but the dragonbox version has them. Stuff like that.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:33 am

Wow, seems like a lot of people are doing this. (Including myself; see the "Perfect Set" thread for details)

The audio I imagine is a fixable problem if one were to simply copy the music from the eyecatch and insert it at the point it should have appeared. But that's a whole other issue since if you're doing the remastered track you'd need to appropriately edit surround sound audio.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:15 pm

I probably wont get mine untill Friday at the earliest. When I do, I'll try to put some clips on Youtube.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:18 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:Wow, seems like a lot of people are doing this. (Including myself; see the "Perfect Set" thread for details)

The audio I imagine is a fixable problem if one were to simply copy the music from the eyecatch and insert it at the point it should have appeared. But that's a whole other issue since if you're doing the remastered track you'd need to appropriately edit surround sound audio.

This is a conversation for another thread, but keep in mind you are dealing with milliseconds worth of data. If the subtitles are off just a bit, you'll never really know, but if the audio is off... you will notice. I think you'll need to use the audio from all the new releases coming up.

(and that doesn't even cover situations where FUNI seems to have added a frame of darkness or two after the episode re-cap, audio being off is noticable unless its tagged to specific video frames... but those are rare)

Gokuden553 · Post by **Gokuden553** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:43 pm

nesguy wrote:Hey guys. Just my two cents:

I'm planning on picking up the Season 1 and 2 sets for the audio and subtitles only. I'm buying the Dragonbox single DVD's and using the video off of those to remake the DVD's "the way it was meant to be seen." With a little reauthoring I can make DVD's that have fullscreen, Japanese and English Audio, and English subtitles. The bonus of all of it is that it's perfectly legal since I own both sets of DVD's I'm thinking about picking up one of those Lightscribe DVD burners, so that when the process is all done, I can even have cool looking DVD's instead of just Sharpie'd DVD-R's. Slap those into a case with custom cover (SelMod's look awesome) and I have the "Perfect, Definitive, Ultimate, Uncut, Awesome-ness up the wazoo Set"! Funi gets their money, and I get my uncut early episodes!

I may actually continue to pick up the remaining seasons too, just to finish out the process. Using the Dragonbox video might be worth it, and I think it may actually be fairly close in price to what I would pay for the old DVD boxsets. Either way, it'll be pretty cool to have a whole shelf of my custom sets sitting next to Funi's supposedly perfect ones. Just my two (and a half) cents on the whole thing.

Hehe good idea, I was thinking about doing the exactually same thing yet I don't see the point of importing both the Dragon Box episodes and Vegeta Saga episodes since I already own the other DBZ DVD's, and would rather save up for a better anime series such as Naruto and import the Uncut Naruto Boxsets which contain already remastered episodes and has nothing altered in it what so ever.

tatsumaru12345 · Post by **tatsumaru12345** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:13 pm

D_Icon917 wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:
D_Icon917 wrote:When the episodes play do they have the black bars on top and on the bottom of the screen?
If you have a fullscreen television, yes. If you have a widescreen television, no.

-Corey
What? I have a widescreen tv, personally I like the black bars. So I wouldn't get the black bars then, damn.

Actually, it depends on what your dvd player is set to. Even if you own a 16:9 television, the actual image will be stretched until you change the settings on your dvd player to 16:9 or widescreen. So if you left your dvd player to 4:3 or fullscreen, you'll still get the black bars. Though do remember, it will be stretched since you are putting it on a 16:9 screen. This is a good trick for people who own only 4:3 televisions, hate the widescreen black bars, and can get over the fact its stretched.

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:14 pm

Gokuden553 wrote:import the Uncut Naruto Boxsets which contain already remastered episodes and has nothing altered in it what so ever.

You know that Naruto is available uncut in the UK anyway? The subtitles are kind of odd on the UK release (Manga Ent did a completely new translation instead of using Viz's, and they're inconsistent about terms, though not exactly inaccurate), but there's nothing missing and you can get it online for the same price (or cheaper) as importing the US release.

Also, Naruto isn't "already remastered" as such. It's a recent, digitally-animated show that doesn't need any remastering.