WatchMojo.com choses Akira Toriyama as Nº1 manga artist

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WatchMojo.com choses Akira Toriyama as Nº1 manga artist

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:18 pm

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:48 pm

Toriyama is good, but there are way better manga artist out there. Go Nagai, Leiji Matsumoto and Shotaro Ishinomori are way better in my opinion. Too bad they didn't make it on the list, but I guess they are too obscure for Watchmojo.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:02 am

I'd argue Mato (first 8 volumes of Pokémon Special/Adventures) is better. Toriyama is good and I adore his style but best ? Naw.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:25 am

Not surprised. Toriyama single-handedly inspired an entire generation of shonen manga artists.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:28 am

I think Kubo takes this.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:56 am

Going by art alone? I gotta agree with that. Toriyama is by far my favorite, art style wise.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:10 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:Going by art alone? I gotta agree with that. Toriyama is by far my favorite, art style wise.
They also include how prolific they´re and their influence in the world of anime and manga.
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Post by Cetra » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:15 pm

This is more like a list of popular artists, not best. They can all draw but even though I have learned a lot from Toriyama-san's style, I think Ken Akamatsu and Masakazu Katsura are better artists and draw way more beautiful. That is not to be totally generalized as I think at times Toriyama-san is also to be included on rank 1 but still.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:35 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:Going by art alone? I gotta agree with that. Toriyama is by far my favorite, art style wise.
They also include how prolific they´re and their influence in the world of anime and manga.
Which is why Toriyama should be without a doubt No.1.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:52 pm

Cetra wrote:This is more like a list of popular artists, not best.
WatchMojo is a popularity contest with videos. They have no good taste in anything since it's all done by user votes.
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:14 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:Going by art alone? I gotta agree with that. Toriyama is by far my favorite, art style wise.
They also include how prolific they´re and their influence in the world of anime and manga.
Which is why Toriyama should be without a doubt No.1.
Yeah, he's no 1 influental "menga" artist.

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Post by Dotogam » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:22 pm

He is extremely influential but I personally prefer other artists like Hirohiko Araki. Though in terms of influence he is hands down No. 1.
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Post by Doctor. » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:15 pm

I'm surprised they even knew who Urasawa was. That's my #1 for sure.

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Post by MetaMoss » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:55 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:Going by art alone? I gotta agree with that. Toriyama is by far my favorite, art style wise.
They also include how prolific they´re and their influence in the world of anime and manga.
Which is why Toriyama should be without a doubt No.1.
If we're basing this on how prolific and influential they are, even Toriyama loses out to "the godfather of manga".
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Post by NitroEX » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:15 pm

Reeks of pandering. I don't give WatchMojo the time of day tbh.

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Post by Bansho64 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:22 pm

Without Toriyama almost 80% of the shounen stuff we see today wouldn't have been even been thought of. He deserves the number one spot.
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:23 pm

Having just re-read Eyeshield 21 I can safely say that Murata Yuusuke is definitely the best comic artist on this planet...ignoring all of the artists I've never read the work of! :P Murata's layouts, camera work and line work is impeccable, easily speaking volumes without ever having to write a word.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:11 pm

metamoss wrote: If we're basing this on how prolific and influential they are, even Toriyama loses out to "the godfather of manga".
However, only one of the two has a manga that archived worldwide mainstream popularity, it helps Dragon Ball is the third most sold manga(as of April 2016).
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Post by Rumanid » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:17 pm

Bansho64 wrote:Without Toriyama almost 80% of the shounen stuff we see today wouldn't have been even been thought of. He deserves the number one spot.
I disagree. If you want to argue popularity, One Piece is still #1. In terms of manga influence alone, it could be argued that Tetsuo Hara, the mangaka of Fist of the North Star is most influential, as his style was how Hirohiko Araki started JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, which in turn, arguably paved the way for the non-tournament arc shounen. And in terms of overall legacy, Tezuka takes the cake.

It's hard to deny Toriyama's legacy, but it's not the one-and-all.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:18 pm

Bansho64 wrote:Without Toriyama almost 80% of the shounen stuff we see today wouldn't have been even been thought of. He deserves the number one spot.
Yeah other manga artist are just as important as him. Go Nagai and Shotaro Ishinomori have a major impact on Japanese pop culture in the 1970's. Shotaro Ishinomori created Kamen Rider, Cyborg 009, Super Sentai and Android Kikaider which became major popular titles in Japan and Super Sentai would later be adapted over seas as Power Rangers. Go Nagai created Cutie Honey, Devilman, Mazinger Z, Violence Jack and Getter Robo which inspire many anime and manga series and tropes today. Without Mazinger, there would be no Gundam. Without Devilman, there would be no Berserk, The Guyver, Bastard!!, Urotsukidoji, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Neon Genesis Evagelion.
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