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If he can hold his own against a 10 times Kaioken Ssj Blus Goku or even surpass him then he's arguably stronger then Beerus and Champa.Kuririn Fan wrote:Damn, Hit is a fucking beast, how strong is he?
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This Goku being battle hungry is becoming annoying to me.I hope someone will give him a perfect lesson in the future,like killing someone permanently who is very close to him due to his naiveness.
But knowing that it's not that likely that they will get past EOZ,it will probably never happen.
But knowing that it's not that likely that they will get past EOZ,it will probably never happen.
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I know it's for drama's sake, but why can't he just beat Hit. After that ask to fight him again now that there's no killing rule since the tournament is over. At least that would have been clever. He wins the tournament, and then because they both like fighting, says now there isn't a rule no more that says he can't kill. It at least shows Goku's gotten smarter with his habbits after the F arc.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:This Goku being battle hungry is becoming annoying to me.I hope someone will give him a perfect lesson in the future,like killing someone permanently who is very close to him due to his naiveness.
But knowing that it's not that likely that they will get past EOZ,it will probably never happen.
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Goku is never going to make a rational decision(outside of fighting) its just not him.
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We can either take it as him not able to wait, he's just that excited or he didnt want to win something knowing his opponent wasnt going all out, pride?dbzfan7 wrote:I know it's for drama's sake, but why can't he just beat Hit. After that ask to fight him again now that there's no killing rule since the tournament is over. At least that would have been clever. He wins the tournament, and then because they both like fighting, says now there isn't a rule no more that says he can't kill. It at least shows Goku's gotten smarter with his habbits after the F arc.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:This Goku being battle hungry is becoming annoying to me.I hope someone will give him a perfect lesson in the future,like killing someone permanently who is very close to him due to his naiveness.
But knowing that it's not that likely that they will get past EOZ,it will probably never happen.
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Well at least Piccolo is doing something next episode.

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I like the little things piccolo is doing on sidelines like calling goku an idiot, commenting on the fight, being the smart one telling vegeta stuff. Looks like he will go to help the dumbass next episode.
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I know it's a Goku thing to do this, but what bugs me is he never changes at all. By pulling stunts like this in F, Freeza almost killed everyone. Now he's pulling this shit again. A nice character arc for Goku which was set up in F (Before it was stupidly shot down), would be dealing with his habbits, and how they can effect everyone. If Goku and Vegeta changed more and were on growing character arcs, I'd have less reason to complain about the "Goku and Vegeta Show". It would keep the two of them interesting. Instead it's the new characters who get that, while Goku and Vegeta's job is simply to interact and bounce off them. It makes for duller main characters. I'd be less burnt out on these two if they would grow up more, while keeping the core of who they are.SansrivaaL wrote:We can either take it as him not able to wait, he's just that excited or he didnt want to win something knowing his opponent wasnt going all out, pride?dbzfan7 wrote:I know it's for drama's sake, but why can't he just beat Hit. After that ask to fight him again now that there's no killing rule since the tournament is over. At least that would have been clever. He wins the tournament, and then because they both like fighting, says now there isn't a rule no more that says he can't kill. It at least shows Goku's gotten smarter with his habbits after the F arc.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:This Goku being battle hungry is becoming annoying to me.I hope someone will give him a perfect lesson in the future,like killing someone permanently who is very close to him due to his naiveness.
But knowing that it's not that likely that they will get past EOZ,it will probably never happen.
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He can't be though. Judging from the future episode spoilers, Champa is going to destroy the U6 for the losing the tournament and their matches, and since Beerus and Champa appears to level in terms of strength, at least within the anime as the manga is a bit more ambiguous, there's now way Hit can be stronger than Beerus and Champa if Champa plans on killing every member of the Universe 6 team like they're nothing.sintzu wrote:If he can hold his own against a 10 times Kaioken Ssj Blus Goku or even surpass him then he's arguably stronger then Beerus and Champa.Kuririn Fan wrote:Damn, Hit is a fucking beast, how strong is he?
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Hit should actually be stronger than champa if be go by logic(yea i know its dragonball so this probably does not count).THere is no way someone stronger than x10 kaio ken and still hidng their full power is weaker than champa or beerus.
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Huh ? Suppressed Hit ain't stronger than Kaioken x10 Goku.Sodhi wrote:THere is no way someone stronger than x10 kaio ken and still hidng their full power is weaker than champa or beerus.
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I highly doubt it. Xicor is not even Toyotaro's original character. He is a old fan fic character that he added in his AF manga. His AF manga is old fan fiction that is re-drawn with a similar art style to Toriyama's art work. However I do find it interesting that he created the idea of a saiyan ritual long before Toriyama did in Battle of Gods.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok I had this idea based on what we've hear about super's future. Now bear in mind I think this theory is both a long shot and very unlikely.
Could Super's next antagonist be a spin on Toyotaro's DBAF character Xicor?
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Well not saying Hit is above Beerus and Champa, but after the fight he would probably be totally drained, and unable to protect himself. I don't think he is above them, but that's a plausible reason if he were.
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Uh no Toei started the saiyan ritual thing before it was cool ask Super Bebi VegetaHellspawn28 wrote:I highly doubt it. Xicor is not even Toyotaro's original character. He is a old fan fic character that he added in his AF manga. His AF manga is old fan fiction that is re-drawn with a similar art style to Toriyama's art work. However I do find it interesting that he created the idea of a saiyan ritual long before Toriyama did in Battle of Gods.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok I had this idea based on what we've hear about super's future. Now bear in mind I think this theory is both a long shot and very unlikely.
Could Super's next antagonist be a spin on Toyotaro's DBAF character Xicor?
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Looks like Toei is cracking down on the Super vids on YT. SSB/Kaioken vid would have gotten over 1M before next ep aired 
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I think the next villain will be whoever Hit works forHellspawn28 wrote:I highly doubt it. Xicor is not even Toyotaro's original character. He is a old fan fic character that he added in his AF manga. His AF manga is old fan fiction that is re-drawn with a similar art style to Toriyama's art work. However I do find it interesting that he created the idea of a saiyan ritual long before Toriyama did in Battle of Gods.Lord Frieza wrote:Ok I had this idea based on what we've hear about super's future. Now bear in mind I think this theory is both a long shot and very unlikely.
Could Super's next antagonist be a spin on Toyotaro's DBAF character Xicor?
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Here's my theory: Goku and Hit end in a draw. Leaving Monaka as the final member of Universe 7, making them the winners.
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That's a pretty good idea and hilariousFutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Here's my theory: Goku and Hit end in a draw. Leaving Monaka as the final member of Universe 7, making them the winners.
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I think killing Freeza stops him from doing this in the future when other people's lives are at stake, like humanity's. However, because its just Goku here and because the Dragon Balls exist, I don't think its a problem to do it here.dbzfan7 wrote:
I know it's a Goku thing to do this, but what bugs me is he never changes at all. By pulling stunts like this in F, Freeza almost killed everyone. Now he's pulling this shit again. A nice character arc for Goku which was set up in F (Before it was stupidly shot down), would be dealing with his habbits, and how they can effect everyone. If Goku and Vegeta changed more and were on growing character arcs, I'd have less reason to complain about the "Goku and Vegeta Show". It would keep the two of them interesting. Instead it's the new characters who get that, while Goku and Vegeta's job is simply to interact and bounce off them. It makes for duller main characters. I'd be less burnt out on these two if they would grow up more, while keeping the core of who they are.
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