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Steven Bloodriver wrote:What if both Goku and Kid Gohan achieved Super Saiyan when Frieza had mortally wounded Piccolo with a Death Beam and blew up Krillin?
Gohan kills freeza.
Berserker1921 wrote:What if elder kaioshin knew of ssj4 during the buu saga? How much stronger would Goku and vegeta be if they went off against Berrus initially. And would this affect them through out super?
no effect at all.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:What if Beerus never had his prophetic dream ?
Freeza blows the planet up after killing goku, vegeta, buu, piccolo, gohan, gotenks and not even needing to transform into golden form.
He also goes on to find namek and destroys it.
jplaya2023 wrote:what if only piccolo dies against the saiyans and the entire z team travels to namek on dr briefs ship he built for goku and they're all training in 100g gravity every day.
briefs expands the ship to 4 levels with 4 different gravity chambers that each can go up to 100G. This trip takes 28 days as they want to train as much as possible. Also goku shows everyone kaoken and the spirit bomb.
How would this affect the story
Freeza becomes immortal because if goku arrives 22 days later, then you know what happens.
SaiyajinGokuWarrior wrote:What-If: If Goku turned Super Saiyan during his battle with Raditz? How it would affect the timeline? What impact it will make?
What-If 2: What-If Instead of Pan that joins in with Trunks and Goku, It was Goten and Uub? What it will make an impact in the timeline? Will fusion return or change the timeline differently?
Goku defeats raditz easily, and lets him go. Then he tells nappa & Vegeta about that. They arrive in 1 year to fight and easily lose to goku.
They want goku's help against freeza because they say that he forced them to do evil things like conquering planets. Goku gets excited about that and goes.
Piccolo trains to kill goku even more, because his heart hasn't changed. Ultimately, goku fights freeza and dies when freeza transforms. Piccolo takes over earth until androids are released. Raditz, Nappa & Vegeta rot in hell.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
SaiyajinGokuWarrior wrote:What-If: If Goku turned Super Saiyan during his battle with Raditz? How it would affect the timeline? What impact it will make?
Goku won't be able to handle the strain Super Saiyan have.
Spoiler:
Putting that aside,Goku will beat Raditz easily.He never dies and never trained at Kaio's place,once Nappa and Vegeta arrives,Goku will deal with them rather easily.Freeza wouldn't know about the Dragon Balls and would never go to Namek.Since no Z fighter will die,they also won't go to Namek.Goku dies from the heart virus and then the Androids come and kills everyone.Since Vegeta never knew or met Bulma,there is no Future Trunks who will warn them.Gohan probably still survives,but he will recklessly challenge the Androids and get killed.Bulma creates a time machine and will go to the past by herself.He warns Goku and co about the Androids,Goku and co trained fights the Androids,Goku will still get the hearth virus-mid fight.Since no Vegeta,Piccolo will be the one who will fight #19.Piccolo beats 19 and Gero but the latter will escape and activate #17 and #18.The latter activates #16.Since also no Vegeta,Android 18 and 17 wouldn't fight the Z Fighters.Cell arrives and Piccolo merged with Kami.Basically the same thing happens as the original but Goku and Gohan will be the one who will go inside the RoSaT because there is no Vegeta or Future Trunks.Tenshinhan would get killed by Semi Perfect Cell since Goku wasn't there to save him.Goku and Gohan emerges from the RoSaT and beats the crap out of Cell.Goku lets Cell reach his Perfect Form for a good fight.Cell beats Goku and Gohan fights him,Basically the same thing happens in the original but Gohan would lose to the beam struggle since Vegeta wasn't there to distract Cell.In short,the earth is doomed.Cell will be on a rampage and meets Dabra and Babidi and kills them both.The seemingly unbeatable bio-android will only face his match if Beerus will decide to obliterate him by the time he will awoke from his slumber.
The end
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Some questions:
- Won't piccolo be MUCH, MUCH weaker without SS goku training and nail merging?
- Won't cell be MUCH, MUCH weaker without cold's and freeza's cells? And won't he die in space with goku in self-destruct?
- Won't dabra be able to easily kill this weaker version of cell?
- Won't piccolo still be a villain?
What if all the z-warriors asked to be come Saiyans? (Except for piccolo, who ask to have similar saiyan biology) how much stronger would they all become?
Berserker1921 wrote:What if all the z-warriors asked to be come Saiyans? (Except for piccolo, who ask to have similar saiyan biology) how much stronger would they all become?
What if _______ ate fruit from the Tree of Might?
My first thought for that blank is Broly, because I chuckle at the idea of him doubling in size and just becoming a giant or something.
jamiljamtheman wrote:What if _______ ate fruit from the Tree of Might?
My first thought for that blank is Broly, because I chuckle at the idea of him doubling in size and just becoming a giant or something.
They just get stronger.
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jamiljamtheman wrote:What if _______ ate fruit from the Tree of Might?
My first thought for that blank is Broly, because I chuckle at the idea of him doubling in size and just becoming a giant or something.
the power level of _________ increases by 400,000.
If broly eats a fruit, hell even 10 fruits, he won't even note the difference unless he is in base form.
At the level of beerus etc, you can eat the entire tree and still no appreciable difference
1) What if the Family Kamehameha from Goku, Gohan, and Goten had blasted Broly into the massive Black Hole in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy instead of the Sun?
2) What if Gohan had managed to achieve Super Saiyan 2 successfully while in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with his father?
Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) What if the Family Kamehameha from Goku, Gohan, and Goten had blasted Broly into the massive Black Hole in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy instead of the Sun?
2) What if Gohan had managed to achieve Super Saiyan 2 successfully while in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with his father?
He still would have died. The sun wasn't a real factor, it's just once he hit it the blast consumed him and exploded on him.
2. Cell would have killed everyone. Things had to play at a certain pace. Normal perfect cell (100%)>ssj2 gohan. I think without using up majority of his energy making the cell jrs. cell's power would be too much for gohan. And then there's the skill gap.
spc 1 hits gohan, he couldn't even deflect a finger blast, 100% perfect cell>>ssj2 gohan>full power cell(from what he had left)>perfect cell vs goku>GOKU>perfect cell vs gohan>Gohan ssj1.
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Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) What if the Family Kamehameha from Goku, Gohan, and Goten had blasted Broly into the massive Black Hole in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy instead of the Sun?
2) What if Gohan had managed to achieve Super Saiyan 2 successfully while in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with his father?
He still would have died. The sun wasn't a real factor, it's just once he hit it the blast consumed him and exploded on him.
2. Cell would have killed everyone. Things had to play at a certain pace. Normal perfect cell (100%)>ssj2 gohan. I think without using up majority of his energy making the cell jrs. cell's power would be too much for gohan. And then there's the skill gap.
spc 1 hits gohan, he couldn't even deflect a finger blast, 100% perfect cell>>ssj2 gohan>full power cell(from what he had left)>perfect cell vs goku>GOKU>perfect cell vs gohan>Gohan ssj1.
Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) What if the Family Kamehameha from Goku, Gohan, and Goten had blasted Broly into the massive Black Hole in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy instead of the Sun?
2) What if Gohan had managed to achieve Super Saiyan 2 successfully while in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with his father?
Broly dies anyways. I don't see what changed.
Goku gets too overconfident. Gohan fucks around and cell destroys the earth. Everyone dies.
Pocket-God wrote:What If Vegeta was in Cooler's 1st Movie?
Would he of been the one to fight Salza or would he of just been there to get rekt by Cooler
Blocky wrote:What if Kami and Mr.Popo accidentally bring back literally Everyone who ever died on Namek on Earth during the fight between SSJ Goku and Freeza?
How would that affect the rest of the story?
Not much. That brings back Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Ginyu force, and all the namekians vegeta killed.
As soon as dende restores piccolo's health, he can make them all his bitches while holding back with both hands tied behind his back.
Blocky wrote:What if Kami and Mr.Popo accidentally bring back literally Everyone who ever died on Namek on Earth during the fight between SSJ Goku and Freeza?
How would that affect the rest of the story?
Not much. That brings back Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Ginyu force, and all the namekians vegeta killed.
As soon as dende restores piccolo's health, he can make them all his bitches while holding back with both hands tied behind his back.
Or alternatively, vegeta kills them twice.
EDIT: Farmer with shotgun stays dead.
Wouldn't Cell could get a bit more powerful since he could get all of their DNA when he was being born?
Blocky wrote:What if Kami and Mr.Popo accidentally bring back literally Everyone who ever died on Namek on Earth during the fight between SSJ Goku and Freeza?
How would that affect the rest of the story?
Not much. That brings back Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Ginyu force, and all the namekians vegeta killed.
As soon as dende restores piccolo's health, he can make them all his bitches while holding back with both hands tied behind his back.
Or alternatively, vegeta kills them twice.
EDIT: Farmer with shotgun stays dead.
Wouldn't Cell could get a bit more powerful since he could get all of their DNA when he was being born?
He could get Guldo's time stop as well!
Oh yah, forgot about it.
Cell becomes much more powerful uses stop time to become perfect, destroys earth, encounters dabra, gets turned to stone or enslaved by babidi untill beerus wakes up.
