"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Draconic]

is it just me or the shorter being bears a resemblance to chiaotzu?

It looks more like Gure, Tarble's wife.

[Noah]

It's Toriyama's story though, so if he wants to retcon something he created, then he has all the right to do that.

I'm not denying that, I'm just saying that would make the story less credible IMO, if he do such thing. EoZ is a lame ending? Yeah okay... But it's The End. It deserves to be respected.

[pacz360]

Tbh who cares about eoz? It was a rushed ending by tori who was probably burned out by the series by then if it means some sort retcon of the ending in a good way then go for it.

[PMD]

C'mon people, cut that "canon" argument already. It's a dead end.

is it just me or the shorter being bears a resemblance to chiaotzu?

I thought the same first time I saw him/it!

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PS: EOZ is one of the worst things that ever happened to the entire DB universe. Huge anticlimactic ending for such an amazing story.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Tbh who cares about eoz? It was a rushed ending by tori who was probably burned out by the series by then if it means some sort retcon of the ending in a good way then go for it.

This.

[Alruneia]

Tbh who cares about eoz? It was a rushed ending by tori who was probably burned out by the series by then if it means some sort retcon of the ending in a good way then go for it.

A lot of people do, actually. It may be a rushed ending (citation?), but it's still in the original manga, therefore making it absolute canon. I understand that many of you on here don't like it, but that doesn't mean you should go around telling people to disregard it entirely. We can't really do that before Toriyama himself says we can.

[alakazam^]

Spoiler:

What's the context behind the rest of the text on the script/draft/whatever for Episode 1. If it says a few months have passed, but that page is still detailing the wish to erase Buu's memories, then it's relatively useless.

If it's talking about the content from the episode set after the recap material, then it could have some value I suppose.

It says "several months after the Boo arc", then it describes Goku plowing the fields with the tractor and Goten arriving. It goes straight to dialogue between them after that.

Interestingly, in the episode proper, Goku asks Goten if school was over but in the script he asks if "kindergarten" was over.

Regarding the tall new character looking like a pokemon, like Chuquita said, his head is just like a Surskit

[ArchedThunder]

I think I'd like the tall one more if his head was more like Tagoma's (they have similar eyes). I just don't like his weird antenna and his pill shaped head with no ears.
I like the small one though.

[Draconic]

Tbh who cares about eoz? It was a rushed ending by tori who was probably burned out by the series by then if it means some sort retcon of the ending in a good way then go for it.

A lot of people do, actually. It may be a rushed ending (citation?), but it's still in the original manga, therefore making it absolute canon. I understand that many of you on here don't like it, but that doesn't mean you should go around telling people to disregard it entirely. We can't really do that before Toriyama himself says we can.

He kinda did. In one interview he said he is the original author and he can decide not to stick to something from the original story if he so choses.

[Makai]

It's Toriyama's story though, so if he wants to retcon something he created, then he has all the right to do that.

I'm not denying that, I'm just saying that would make the story less credible IMO, if he do such thing. EoZ is a lame ending? Yeah okay... But it's The End. It deserves to be respected.

Yeah it was the ending. Back then. When Toriyama had no plans to continue. But now that he is continuing the story, he should be able to change it how he feels. It was only a few chapters, and had no effect on the overall story, so if he's continuing it past that point, then there should be no problem with him changing it up a bit to go with the new material. If he does end up changing it, then he obviously doesn't respect it as much as you do, so why should we respect it if he doesn't respect his own story?

[FortuneSSJ]

-New characters-
Just realized none of them are purple. Thank God! More purple characters is something we definitely don't need in Super.

...Super is its own thing. A separate product.

Exactly man, Is not like being non canon is a bad thing, GT isn't that bad after all, we can enjoy Super as it is ignoring that makes no sense with EoZ.

Who cares about 2 chapters written decades ago. Not Akira. Super is more canon then EOZ.

I do care.
And don't come up with that canon arugment, it's a dead end. More canon than other thing Toriyama wrote too?! That doesn't even make sense.

Like any other manga series, everything that is in the original manga is canon. The rest is extra stuff, that anyone can consider canon or not.
Super being canon or not doesn't matter, as long as it's enjoyable it's okay. In the end, I assume we all are here for the ride.

[TheDBZmaster100]

Maybe because people don't like seeing further retcons of a series that already has a plethora of retcons and inconsistencies? I'm one of the people who prefer the original ending over that nonsense known as 'Kanzenban' ending.

The designs of these two new characters don't interest me but their status do.

[PMD]

Like any other manga series, everything that is in the original manga is canon. The rest is extra stuff, that anyone can consider canon or not.
Super being canon or not doesn't matter, as long as it's enjoyable it's okay. I assume we all are here for the ride.

THIS!!

[kinisking]

Tbh who cares about eoz? It was a rushed ending by tori who was probably burned out by the series by then if it means some sort retcon of the ending in a good way then go for it.

A lot of people do, actually. It may be a rushed ending (citation?), but it's still in the original manga, therefore making it absolute canon. I understand that many of you on here don't like it, but that doesn't mean you should go around telling people to disregard it entirely. We can't really do that before Toriyama himself says we can.

What made the original manga absolute canon was that Akira Toriyama made it himself. The same is true for Super's story line.

[alakazam^]

I think no one is disrespecting the story or the ending. Toriyama had a certain mindset when ending it back then and he might have a different one nowadays. If he ends up changing it, he'll change it and that isn't that big a deal because it was content right at the end of the manga so it would be easy to disregard and "update". The manga isn't going nowhere anyway.

[pacz360]

Tbh who cares about eoz? It was a rushed ending by tori who was probably burned out by the series by then if it means some sort retcon of the ending in a good way then go for it.

A lot of people do, actually. It may be a rushed ending (citation?), but it's still in the original manga, therefore making it absolute canon. I understand that many of you on here don't like it, but that doesn't mean you should go around telling people to disregard it entirely. We can't really do that before Toriyama himself says we can.

What made the original manga absolute canon was that Akira Toriyama made it himself. The same is true for Super's story line.

This! Tori can do whatever the hell he wants to do no one here can do anything about it.

[Makai]

At the end of the day, it's still Toriyama's story. He can change the ending if he wants, doesn't matter which came first, or which one is better, it's still his ending. Whichever one he says is official goes. It's almost exactly like the Bardock story. So I guess we can either like it or don't like it, it's still his story.

[SaiyaSith]

King Zeno, with an X on his chest. It's Xenoverse, baby! Soooo many possibilities with time/parallel universe travel! The hype is unreal!!!

[PMD]

King Zeno, with an X on his chest. It's Xenoverse, baby! Soooo many possibilities with time/parallel universe travel! The hype is unreal!!!

OMG, man, don't make me hype like that... if they introduce the Xenoverse arc and characters... My goodness!!!!! jsdfhskjdfdlsfjksldfj

[Gorou]

Never heard of an anime with filler elements, which is proposed as a legitimate continuation for a manga.