Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Araki]

Archah has been gracious enough to translate the entire interview. It's not much of a shock but it seems that Yamamuro left Shindou Pro because of Morishita Kouzou's offer. He also states that he doesn't plan on leaving the franchise any time soon.

Oh God, that interviewer was so stupid it was kinda of a cringeworthy read.

He sounded like a frustrated webmaster trying to force out some clickbait Broly/GT/whatever headline from Yamamuro. Not to mention he clearly had zero idea about how animation works.

[JulieYBM]

Archah has been gracious enough to translate the entire interview. It's not much of a shock but it seems that Yamamuro left Shindou Pro because of Morishita Kouzou's offer. He also states that he doesn't plan on leaving the franchise any time soon.

Oh God, that interviewer was so stupid it was kinda of a cringeworthy read.

He sounded like a frustrated webmaster trying to force out some clickbait Broly/GT/whatever headline from Yamamuro. Not to mention he clearly had zero idea about how animation works.

That's the first thing to immediately pop to mind. I wish someone with actual knowledge and passion for animation had approached him, although to be honest I'm surprised he was even shipped out to a convention given how hellish production for Dragon Ball Super has been. Telling Chioka he would be without his character designer for a few days must've thrown him for a loop.

[ArchedThunder]

I don't really love Super's new coloring; I think Z's is better. But damn kai's ending makes me want dragonball redone in super's coloring and animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtY60KFIDc

Those aren't the same colors as Super, those colors are a lot more muted (and a lot more pleasing to the eyes) than Super's.

[Wezenheim]

I don't really love Super's new coloring; I think Z's is better. But damn kai's ending makes me want dragonball redone in super's coloring and animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtY60KFIDc

Those aren't the same colors as Super, those colors are a lot more muted (and a lot more pleasing to the eyes) than Super's.

Yeah, I do definitely prefer the pallet of that ending as opposed to Super's. Although I still would have preferred Super to look like the 2008 special, that color scheme was really nice for the most part, and the backgrounds were great.

I know a lot of people are against it and would be nervous about it, and for good reason after seeing Super, but with a proper production I think I'd like to see Dragon Ball get reanimated someday. It'd be neat to see how a new creative team would handle it.

[Avok]

I don't like the way they draw kid Goku nowadays. It just feels off.

[MajinMan]

That Yamamuro interview is so bad it hurts. It includes Broly, canon, "Super sux and it's for kids," and animation talk. It feels like some random DB fan from the internet wrote those questions.

[Bansho64]

That Yamamuro interview is so bad it hurts. It includes Broly, canon, "Super sux and it's for kids," and animation talk. It feels like some random DB fan from the internet wrote those questions.

Yamamuro was very vague with his answers and it kinda irritated me.

[MajinMan]

That Yamamuro interview is so bad it hurts. It includes Broly, canon, "Super sux and it's for kids," and animation talk. It feels like some random DB fan from the internet wrote those questions.

Yamamuro was very vague with his answers and it kinda irritated me.

He knew he was getting baited, so he gave vague answers on purpose. It's like someone asking Toriyama "is SSJ3 Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan in the Buu Arc?" He did the right thing.

[Bansho64]

He knew he was getting baited, so he gave vague answers on purpose. It's like someone asking Toriyama "is SSJ3 Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan in the Buu Arc?" He did the right thing.

I know but it was still kinda irking that he had to answer that way because of the incompetence of the interviewer. It feels like they just randomly picked someone off the street to ask those questions.

[kinisking]

That Yamamuro interview is so bad it hurts. It includes Broly, canon, "Super sux and it's for kids," and animation talk. It feels like some random DB fan from the internet wrote those questions.

Yamamuro was very vague with his answers and it kinda irritated me.

He knew he was getting baited, so he gave vague answers on purpose. It's like someone asking Toriyama "is SSJ3 Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan in the Buu Arc?" He did the right thing.

How is that a bait question? Seems like an honest question.

[Ajay]

Episode 41



Animation Supervisors:
Ishikawa Osamu & Toma Seizo

Key Animators:
Ishikawa Osamu, Toma Seizo, Kato Yoshitaka, Kubo Mitsuteru, Morinaka Masaharu, Iwata Koudai, Tezuka Emi, Ami Kou, Horii Nobuo, Ishii Tamaki, Tu Yeong-chaek, Sugawara Rieko, Studio Myu, and TAP.

Looks like Ishikawa and Toma are a duo now. Wasn't a huge fan of most of the dragon summoning, since it was primarily stills being digitally moved, which I'm sure you know is a huge pet peeve of mine. Everything else was mostly fine. Seemed like whoever animated some of those ghastly scenes in episode 24 may have been present in this episode. The drawings looked a little familiar.

Other than that, it was a fine episode. Good comedic expressions to match the performances. Can't really ask for much more, I guess.

[ArchedThunder]

Overall solid episode with some weird shots here and there.
But man, that Super Shenlong stuff wasn't not animated well at all. I was hoping they'd go all out with it...
The episode really didn't seem like it benefited from Toma and Ishikawa working together on it, it looked worse than some of the episodes we've gotten with one supervisor. I wonder if Toma will stay with Ishikawa (or pop around working with other supervisors) or if he'll go back to heading his own episodes. If he stays working with others I wonder why, maybe the animation schedule is as good as it can get for right now and the problem is that scripts and storyboards aren't being finished fast enough.

[Wezenheim]

Don't like that they keep pairing Toma up with people. Last time it was Kitano. I wonder why that is? Anyway, there was some cool looking drawings here and there, not a whole lot to complain about other than segments of the summoning. Shimanuki is next week isn't he? It definitely looked like him. Do we have animator credits for the next few episodes?

Also, Ide Takeo was listed as "Chief Animation Supervisor" for this episode. When was the last time that happened?

EDIT: Checked and it turns out he's worked on the show a lot. Interesting that I never looked at that credit much.

[Sodhi]

Super has two chief animation supervisors, and each of them work one after another.

[Wezenheim]

Super has two chief animation supervisors, and each of them work one after another.

I see. I wish Ide could actually do more actual animating himself! I guess my tunnel vision didn't catch onto the fact that he was so involved with the show. I guess I usually don't check the chief animation supervisor credit enough.

[PMD]

All the sumoning had very poor animation. Some expressions were funny, but the drawing was very lazy, especially with Vegeta.

Pretty meh episode in terms of animation.

[bushybutt]

All the sumoning had very poor animation. Some expressions were funny, but the drawing was very lazy, especially with Vegeta.

Pretty meh episode in terms of animation.

Make up your mind bro, is the animation or the art bad?

[Blade]

Aw man, they totally flubbed the Zarama summoning. That was awful - I've honestly seen better use of static assets in Powerpoint presentations. I get the need to conserve drawings and the time issue - but that was just cringe-worthy; if some of that doesn't count as an 'animation breakdown' then I have no idea what does.

That model rotation at around 15 minutes in was laughable - then there were all of the nasty zooms, and the crappy, low detail planets and galaxies zapped around in linear, point-to-point motion.

For what should have been the culminating moment of the arc was instead a total let-down. There are a lot of parallels, I think (not least with the choice of underscore) with how the Super Saiyan God ritual was similarly botched.

[Ajay]

Heh, I'm glad you said it and not me. I've been making an effort not to post as much negativity since I felt like I was getting on people's nerves.

But now that you've brought it up...

Yeah, it really wasn't good. Even the bits that were animated had no detail to them. Bit of a mess all around. I did like the close-ups and final reveal that I assume Toma did. Just a shame they were stills.

It was also hard to take seriously when they played Freeza's golden transformation music. The God transformation track worked nicely though, so I guess it wasn't all bad.

I just watched last night's One Piece which features a similarly important character reveal. Of course that gets an incredible Shida cut to do it justice.

The difference between the two productions really is astounding.

[Draconic]

Negativity or not, we shouldn't beat around the bush. That scene was horrible. Of all the low points in the RoF arc, or episode 5 or the early Vegeta vs Magetta portion, none felt as bad as this. Such a shame, cause the dragon looks badass and there were interesting visuals and direction going on there.