"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[dbzfan7]

I have to agree, the fact they even talk about it is enough to make me, as a GT fan happy. It means it's not this despised thing around the office or something. It's just not their focus right now...Though I'd honestly say nothing in super is fully set in stone (Least not till the series ends.)...so we'll see how things pan out in the future.

Can't count the number of "LOLZ SIDE STORY MEANS NON CANON!", which it doesn't as tons of side stories are canon. Is it canon? I don't care if it is or isn't. This isn't like X-Men where they deliberately did their best to erase X-3 from happening. If we see anything take place during the GT timeline, then there is your proof. If something takes 5 to 6 years after EOZ, then we know for sure. Til then, it's quite possible the middle period was chosen so it wouldn't coincide with GT. Not saying that was why as Toriyama once I think said everyone was old by the end so that could be it too. Who knows. He didn't think blue was a strong colour either, and yet it's the strongest SSJ form in Super as of now.

Agreed, the side story defense has been getting tiresome...I mean I can site kamen rider to show how 'side stories' can create a massive, 3-4 year long continuity between series solely through movies that are labeled as side stories.

I think anything can happen to either cut off or connect super from GT or the EoZ but then be undone easily so long as the series keeps rolling. Nothing is really concrete till the show ends and the stories are done, Heck for all we know, Goku and Vegeta could give up their god powers down the road or lose a large amount of power...or the whole series could be a training induced fever dream in Goku's head. We'll never know! At this point I'm just taking what we get, enjoying it and paying no mind or care to 'canon' or continuity unless things specifically call to specific things or happen in specific timelines.

Exactly. It really doesn't take much of an imagination to have Kibtio and Kaioshin fuse again. It's not like they have done anything important by being seperate yet. A simple gag could bond them again as it did the first time. Who knows. We have no idea how they're tying Super to the EOZ, or whether the EOZ is retconed as some think. We don't know. So it's getting real tired hearing people spout out gibberish that is neither confirmed nor denied.

[Sodhi]

Does this say anything that we dont already know about from #42 summary?. If so translations would be appreciated

[Chillekasper]

Does this say anything that we dont already know about from #42 summary?. If so translations would be appreciated

What it says?

[Chuquita]

I'm still on a lower level, but this went faster than it has in the past for me (so maybe I'm improving).

Translation(?) (If I did it correctly?)

Spoiler:

Gokû and friends returned to Earth to begin their victory celebration. Bulma takes charge of planning the party. Monaka won the tournament, but Beerus makes caustic facial expressions at his reluctance to spar against Gokû. Monaka could not come to the party on account of work.

So...maybe that really is just Beerus in a costume and that's why "Monaka" looks bigger?

[ZombieVito]

If his appearance didn't confirm it, this does.

Really looks like a fun episode and even Kuririn joins in the madness with a Taiyoken.

[Chuquita]

From what I'm gathering, Beerus probably forces Vegeta, Piccolo, and Krillin to help him trick Gokû and the episode preview is them attempting to keep Gokû from finding out it's really Beerus in there. If true, it does look fun. :3

[PMD]

I'm still on a lower level, but this went faster than it has in the past for me (so maybe I'm improving).

Translation(?) (If I did it correctly?)

Spoiler:

Gokû and friends returned to Earth to begin their victory celebration. Bulma takes charge of planning the party. Monaka won the tournament, but Beerus makes caustic facial expressions at his reluctance to spar against Gokû. Monaka could not come to the party on account of work.

So...maybe that really is just Beerus in a costume and that's why "Monaka" looks bigger?

Haha that's awesome. So, as I expected since the very first moment I saw that tall Monaka with the purple ki, it's Beerus in a costume.

It will be a funny episode, no doubt about it.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

If that's really how it plays out, this feels like a bit of a turning point for Beerus' more serious and sinister characterization in Super. I could probably see BoG Beerus going through something like this, because he was relatively friendly ask long as you didn't piss him off, but the Super version felt like he wouldn't have bothered something so...bothersome. He would have just angrily yelled some threats and rampaged a little until Goku was just grateful he didn't die.

[SaiyaSith]

My theory for episode 42: The Monaka we see in the preview isn't Monaka, it's Hit. Monaka normally has white lips, but in the preview they're purple. He also has a purple aura and looks even fighting with Goku. Goku also said in episode 41 that he'll fight Hit "tomorrow" or in 3 days.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

My theory for episode 42: The Monaka we see in the preview isn't Monaka, it's Hit. Monaka normally has white lips, but in the preview they're purple. He also has a purple aura and looks even fighting with Goku. Goku also said in episode 41 that he'll fight Hit "tomorrow" or in 3 days.

Hit has no reason to disguise himself as Big Nips though.

[SaiyaSith]

My theory for episode 42: The Monaka we see in the preview isn't Monaka, it's Hit. Monaka normally has white lips, but in the preview they're purple. He also has a purple aura and looks even fighting with Goku. Goku also said in episode 41 that he'll fight Hit "tomorrow" or in 3 days.

Hit has no reason to disguise himself as Big Nips though.

He does have a reason to disguise himself if Beerus wants to hide the fact that Monaka is weak. It could also be the reason why Piccolo is scared and Vegeta is sweating. (Goku says that in the preview for next week)

[Khin]

It's Beerus, Hit's aura is dark blue while the "Monaka" in the NEP have a purple one.

[SaiyaSith]

It's Beerus, Hit's aura is dark blue while the "Monaka" in the NEP have a purple one.

We'll see who is right next week

[Baggie_Saiyan]

My theory for episode 42: The Monaka we see in the preview isn't Monaka, it's Hit. Monaka normally has white lips, but in the preview they're purple. He also has a purple aura and looks even fighting with Goku. Goku also said in episode 41 that he'll fight Hit "tomorrow" or in 3 days.

Hit has no reason to disguise himself as Big Nips though.

He does have a reason to disguise himself if Beerus wants to hide the fact that Monaka is weak. It could also be the reason why Piccolo is scared and Vegeta is sweating. (Goku says that in the preview for next week)

Why would Hit care about what Beerus wants? Not to mention Hit doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to disguise himself to fight someone especially in the guise of Big Nips.

[SaiyaSith]

Why would Hit care about what Beerus wants?

Why would Hit care about what Champa wants? Lol They're totally hinting that it's Hit. Especially after Goku's comments about "sparring tomorrow or in 3 days" and "Why is Piccolo scared and Vegeta sweating?".

[Grimlock]

Clearly a costune, not only Monaka doesn't have an aura, his "face" didn't make any expression. Well, I didn't see any change in his "face" during the fight.

[alakazam^]

He clearly says that there has to be a connection. And he placed the time order of transformations as SSJ3, SSG/SSGSS, SSJ4 as if they were in one history/timeline. If the timeline was meant for them to split right after the Buu arc he would say something along those lines as an explanation.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, if any, to be honest.

He says that, story-wise, if it didn't connect there couldn't be a continuation and he feels it ended up connecting although there are several spinoff parts in it. He then goes on to say that it's not part of Toriyama's story, it's a Toei original. This is all stuff we know.

He's not compromising with timelines or statements about canon, he's just going "well, we have Z, then Super that belongs to Z, and then there's GT. So this is the order." GT was already hard to make sense with the previous series but now it's impossible to fit altogether so he's referring to it as something that exists and is already established in the franchise but not as something that symbolizes the stories of that Universe.

[Noah]

GT happens on its own timeline where Beerus never visits Earth and Frieza is never resurrected.

Yeah that is what we the fans thought but that is not how a man from Toei (Yamamuro) sees it though.

[Yamamuro] Historically, in the arc Buu, he transforms into Super Saiyan 3 ... And about Super Saiyan God, it appears in the Resurrection 'F'.And after that appears DBGT and Super Saiyan 4

So that basically confirms that Super Saiyan 4 is the Ultimate Saiyan transformation above both Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.

This isn't like X-Men where they deliberately did their best to erase X-3 from happening.

How so?

[FlpShimizu]

He just said in which order the transformations appear in DB's timeline, there's absolutely nothing hinting at which one is the most powerful.

[orco05]

Here is the Dragon Ball World Hierarchy based on the latest Announcements and episodes of Super and all the Dragon Ball history as we know it.



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