4 galaxies officially debunked after episode 41?

[Blackstripe]

Spoiler:

As you can see in the above image, there are many, many galaxies in a Dragon Ball Universe, of varying shapes and sizes, just like in our own. I'm pretty sure that this should finally put to rest the old "Four Galaxies" hypothesis caused by the older guidebooks.

Though I imagine some will still try and argue for it, for some reason.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It was already clarified back when Bluma asked Jaco to take her to the center of the Universe and he called her stupid because a galaxy is huge and there are a lot of them in the universe.

[Blackstripe]

It was already clarified back when Bluma asked Jaco to take her to the center of the Universe and he called her stupid because a galaxy is huge and there are a lot of them in the universe.

While this is so, many still argued he was speaking in relative terms (since that is the only galaxy/universe he knows, he would still think it's big even if there were only four). This offers considerable visual evidence to back up that statement, however.

[Speedster]

It was debunked also by the fact that Magetta is from galaxy 66950. By the way that is in both the manga and the anime. Of course some may say that it might be a naming convention ...well you don't use a 5 digit number to talk about just 4 galaxies!

[Zephyr]

So presumably, each Kaio merely overlooks a quarter/quadrant of space, each of which would include countless galaxies.

[Saiyan007]

Already showed a bunch of galaxies before when bulma was using the super dragon radar for the first time

[Polyphase Avatron]

It was retconned when Jaco said there were a lot of galaxies. I forget what episode that was.

However episode 41 brings up a completely different problem - the nameless planet was supposed to be in 'neutral territory' belonging to neither universe 6 nor 7. So where was it? Why were all of those planets and galaxies there? Were they in a different universe like universe 1-5 or 8-12? What about the gods of that universe?

[VegettoEX]

It was debunked also by the fact that Magetta is from galaxy 66950.

I'd have to go back and check the Japanese, but we at Kanzenshuu specifically translate it as "Galactic System 66950" rather than "Galaxy 66950".

I don't really know if that changes anything with regard to anything else mentioned and is just mincing words, but thought it might be relevant.

EDIT: Here's a quick scan-



That's 系銀河 or kei ginga, I believe.

[Hitiro]

It was already clarified back when Bluma asked Jaco to take her to the center of the Universe and he called her stupid because a galaxy is huge and there are a lot of them in the universe.

While this is so, many still argued he was speaking in relative terms (since that is the only galaxy/universe he knows, he would still think it's big even if there were only four). This offers considerable visual evidence to back up that statement, however.

I don't think the image you supplied us can be used as a debunk can it? Universe 7 had Boo which "apparently" wiped out most of the known universe. So it is highly possible that Universe 7 has only 4 actual galaxies left and the image you provided takes place in Universe 6 which may still have the rest of its universes still intact.

[Speedster]

It was debunked also by the fact that Magetta is from galaxy 66950.

I'd have to go back and check the Japanese, but we at Kanzenshuu specifically translate it as "Galactic System 66950" rather than "Galaxy 66950".I don't really know if that changes anything with regard to anything else mentioned and is just mincing words, but thought it might be relevant.

The term "Galactic system" means galaxy. A galactic system is a gravitationally bound system of stars, stellar remnants, interstellar gas, dust, and dark matter. Similarly a solar system is the gravitationally bound system comprising of the sun and the planets and other celestial objects that orbit it. It is worth mentioning that the Kanji for the word "galaxy" is 银河系 (here is the Wikipedia entry for galaxy by the way---under Milky way-the name of our galaxy) and if you put that word (银河系) on google translate one of the translations is "galactic system".

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Spoiler:

Here's a quick scan-

That's 系銀河 or kei ginga, I believe.

The above Kanji when put on google translate gives back "Xì yínhé" and translates to “department of galaxy”! That has a totally different meaning from "galactic system". Of course it may still mean "department of galaxies" which is also a different meaning!

However episode 41 brings up a completely different problem - the nameless planet was supposed to be in 'neutral territory' belonging to neither universe 6 nor 7.

The impression I got was that the summoning took place inside Universe 7 only and that they just drifted/moved towards universe 7 along the process. Worth noting that Vados and Champa who by the time the wish was made had already travelled across their universe to deliver their contestants back to their planets didn't notice any universe spanning Dragon. So unlikely that he was in their universe too.

[VegettoEX]

Please do not rely on Google Translate, particularly when you're already confusing Chinese and Japanese results.

[Speedster]

Please do not rely on Google Translate, particularly when you're already confusing Chinese and Japanese results.

银河系 is translated by Google Translate to English as galactic system from either Japanese and Chinese as entry languages. It is the term that actually means "galactic system".
系銀河 (the word used in the manga) is translated by google translate as "System Galaxy" (or "Galaxy system") from Japanese and as "Department of Galaxy" from Chinese.

[Lord Beerus]

It was retconned when Jaco said there were a lot of galaxies. I forget what episode that was.

It was Episode 29

[Javaki]

EDIT:

Spoiler:

Here's a quick scan-

That's 系銀河 or kei ginga, I believe.

The above Kanji when put on google translate gives back "Xì yínhé" and translates to “department of galaxy”! That has a totally different meaning from "galactic system". Of course it may still mean "department of galaxies" which is also a different meaning!

According to this dictionary, 系 translates to "system", and 銀河 to "galaxy".

[Adamant]

It was debunked also by the fact that Magetta is from galaxy 66950.

I'd have to go back and check the Japanese, but we at Kanzenshuu specifically translate it as "Galactic System 66950" rather than "Galaxy 66950".

I don't really know if that changes anything with regard to anything else mentioned and is just mincing words, but thought it might be relevant.

EDIT: Here's a quick scan-



That's 系銀河 or kei ginga, I believe.

系 is a suffix meaning type/system/order, so 66950系銀河 would mean "66950-type galaxies", "galaxies classified as type 66950", or what have you.
So the Metalmen are not unique to one specific galaxy, but to galaxies that fall under certain criteria that classify them as a specific kind of galaxy.

[theherodjl]

Spoiler:

As you can see in the above image, there are many, many galaxies in a Dragon Ball Universe, of varying shapes and sizes, just like in our own. I'm pretty sure that this should finally put to rest the old "Four Galaxies" hypothesis caused by the older guidebooks.

Though I imagine some will still try and argue for it, for some reason.

In the Super manga there is a scene of Whis explaining the universal order and universe 6 & 7 are depicted having 4 galaxies, this is not to say that there is only 4 galaxies in either universe but that 4 galaxies seemingly take priority to represent the universes. So this could mean that the other galaxies are smaller and/or just less significant in the grand scheme of things.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I'm still confused about the whole 'neutral territory' thing.

[DaimaoSoldier]

I assume there's just a bunch of galaxy's that are split into 4 quadrants.