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Hellspawn28 wrote:Super Shenron vs. Black Star Shenron
Both can make any wish happen. Who is stronger?
Hmmm.... A being that literally Makes galaxies look like ants and outshines two universes vs one that got overpowered by ssj4? Super shenron eats him without knowing it
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Super Shenron vs. Black Star Shenron
Both can make any wish happen. Who is stronger?
Super Shenron eats the GTverse whole. Black Star Shenron is not even a bacteria compared to it
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?
Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I have Pan being about a quarter of Goten's and Trunks' Boo arc base power (she's half their age and has half the amount of Saiyan blood), so she wins easily.
I would of loved to see a fight between Champa and Hit. Even though Champa is a god of destruction, Hit can rapidly adapt and who knows what he can do when he doesn't hold back.
I think Champa would of lost to Hit. What do you think?
Majin Whis wrote:I would of loved to see a fight between Champa and Hit. Even though Champa is a god of destruction, Hit can rapidly adapt and who knows what he can do when he doesn't hold back.
I think Champa would of lost to Hit. What do you think?
Yes I also feel that way. I mean, Champa felt some sort of fear or cold chills running through his spine when Hit darted his eyes to him like that.
Gohan, easily. Reasons:
- Her DNA is mostly human, unlike Gohan who is half human, half Saiyajin.
- She's a girl, Gohan's a boy
- It's highly unlikely that Pan would survive a survival training like the one Gohan had in the Saiyan saga
Gohan, easily. Reasons:
- Her DNA is mostly human, unlike Gohan who is half human, half Saiyajin.
- She's a girl, Gohan's a boy
- It's highly unlikely that Pan would survive a survival training like the one Gohan had in the Saiyan saga
I disagree. 1) Gender should not matter 2) Sliding power scale 3) Gohan was sort of a pushover back then. Not just power level wise but courage and tenacity-wise. Pan has both of these in spades.
hellobooboo14 wrote:SS Goku from Cell Games vs. SS Goten Pre + SS Trunks Pre Rosat
SS Goku from Cell Game vs. SS Goten Post Rosat
— Goku gets overwhelmed.
— Goten one shots.
Ash57 wrote:Base Vegeta is only weaker than Freeza if you think that Super is a direct canon continuity to the manga, because many feats on the manga disprove the notion that Base Saiyans are weaker than Freeza
Many ? The only one that implied that the Base Saiyans are stronger than Freeza is Base Goten and Trunks keeping up with Android #18, and that can easily be explained.Goku was amazed that Kaioshin can one Freeza.Dragon Ball Super isn't just the one that confirmed that Base Goku < Freeza.DBS Manga and the movie version of Battle of Gods also confirmed it.
Noah wrote:One Second Tokitobashi Hit vs. Hakaishin Beerus (100% Full Power)
...wasn't Pan training by running/flying around the entire world at this point? Plus, if she's anything like Goten and Trunks, she was probably born with a power level higher than what Gohan had back then and rapidly increased as she got older. Goten and Trunks were strong enough that their Super Saiyan forms were above #18 already when they were only 7-8 years old... just from play-fighting with each other for a few years, no serious training at all. Now imagine someone with the same power growth who already is training at age 4. Yeah, this version of Gohan shouldn't have any chance against Pan.
