Do you think the end of Z will be re-written/retconned?

[MrBlackFox]

IMO AT will retcon EOZ, at least under some details

Uub should have a central role, same ( I hope ) for Goten, Trunks in their teens, maybe involving that DBO Kikoukenjutsu Sword School or fighting style, and Pan
I think Toriyama will surpass EOZ starting a new arc set after that Tenkaichi, when Goku leaves the rest of his team to go to Uub's island and train him

Super last arc may start from there, overwriting GT once for all

And I thing, also, we'll see Whis and maybe Beerus ( if he'll be still awaken and will not go back to sleep ) watching that tournament from an hidden place

Or they'll fight Z-Warriors during Super, revealing themselves as villains, and by the time of EOZ they're dead?





just jokin' , I love them, especially Beerus

[namekiansaiyan]

Toriyama should just introduce Uub once that point in time comes around and just continue the story after that. There is no point restricting himself storywise because of what happened at the end of Z.

[ChronoTwigger]

I don't see how the timeline is broken, according to my numbers everything is fine so far (but Bulma had to get pregnant very soon, ad Trunks grow a little into puberty next year).

As for the ending of Z, read the manga and you see Goku get a punch from Ub, not being smashed or destroyed, take the kid and fly away. Not a mention of power levels or whatever, not even supersayan, so EVERYTHING could be. Even Supersayan65. He just don't use it.
He's excited to find a boy with so much potential as he was (Goku started as a looser, even Roshi could beat him). If was strong enough already, why train him?
I don't see any point into retcon EoZ.

[coola]

I think it depend on how it will work with Mr. Toriyama and Shueisha/Toei. For example, with Saint Seiya, Kurumada planned to continue story with Overture but due to some behind the scenes problems, it was cancelled, and stories like Soul of Gold completely ignore what happened in that movie.

[Marco Polo]

I think it depend on how it will work with Mr. Toriyama and Shueisha/Toei. For example, with Saint Seiya, Kurumada planned to continue story with Overture but due to some behind the scenes problems, it was cancelled, and stories like Soul of Gold completely ignore what happened in that movie.

Which is a shame. I thought Overture was amazing. Yes, even that ending.

[DragonHermit]

Goku already mentioned Uub (though not by name) in Super. I think they will include EoZ as a continuation of Super, but might retcon some details.

With the whole Vegeta passing on the torch to Cabba thing, and the multi-universe tournaments, Goku being obsessed with training a successor makes even more sense.

[GeeRod]

I never liked how DBZ ended. The whole Goku lefting his family and friends just to train this kid is not the best...

I hope Super change some things and DEFINITELY hope they change the ending.

[namekiansaiyan]

Goku already mentioned Uub (though not by name) in Super. I think they will include EoZ as a continuation of Super, but might retcon some details.

With the whole Vegeta passing on the torch to Cabba thing, and the multi-universe tournaments, Goku being obsessed with training a successor makes even more sense.

I just see Cabba as the new Gohan and Uub the reincarnation of Buu and the end of Z is just the first time we see him. I expect the end of Z to be included in Super and Super will continue afterwards as well.

[Luke Groundwalker]

End of Z isn't getting retconned. There may be elements reworked and retconned, but the actual premise behind it is still viably valid if they do Super right and go beyond End of Z. There are still several years of time between it and the current Age in Super that allow things such as Bra's birth and Vegeta coping with the fact he can't surpass Goku.

Goku using SSJ1 because "it should be SSJBlue" isn't a retcon. Goku still uses SSJ1 as does Vegeta, as we've seen in the recent arc of Super. The only real major thing needed to be added would be the inclusion of Beerus and Jaco, which were unlikely to even give a shit about a regular tournament on Earth anyway.

[MrBlackFox]

Regarding EOZ, every time I rewatch it, i'm impressed by the Goku power - up scene against Uub, when he raises by underground, releasing that incredible aura with sparks

Sh*t, lovin' that scene, how powerful has become?

In that sense, a God Level power could assume even more sense

[Faisal Shourov]

End of Z isn't getting retconned. There may be elements reworked and retconned, but the actual premise behind it is still viably valid if they do Super right and go beyond End of Z. There are still several years of time between it and the current Age in Super that allow things such as Bra's birth and Vegeta coping with the fact he can't surpass Goku.

Goku using SSJ1 because "it should be SSJBlue" isn't a retcon. Goku still uses SSJ1 as does Vegeta, as we've seen in the recent arc of Super. The only real major thing needed to be added would be the inclusion of Beerus and Jaco, which were unlikely to even give a shit about a regular tournament on Earth anyway.

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced. Goku fighting Uub won't save it from getting retconned. Super Goku is not the same as EoS manga Goku.

[Kuririn Fan]

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced.

What, why? BoG and all this new stuff is set in the ten year gap between Boo's defeat and 28th TB.
Oob was mentioned, the ending stays.

[Marco Polo]

End of Z isn't getting retconned. There may be elements reworked and retconned, but the actual premise behind it is still viably valid if they do Super right and go beyond End of Z. There are still several years of time between it and the current Age in Super that allow things such as Bra's birth and Vegeta coping with the fact he can't surpass Goku.

Goku using SSJ1 because "it should be SSJBlue" isn't a retcon. Goku still uses SSJ1 as does Vegeta, as we've seen in the recent arc of Super. The only real major thing needed to be added would be the inclusion of Beerus and Jaco, which were unlikely to even give a shit about a regular tournament on Earth anyway.

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced. Goku fighting Uub won't save it from getting retconned. Super Goku is not the same as EoS manga Goku.

Yeah, End of Z was retconned the moment they said that Battle of Gods takes place between Buu Saga and End of Z. Right.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced. Goku fighting Uub won't save it from getting retconned. Super Goku is not the same as EoS manga Goku.

Everyone keeps throwing "EoZ has been retconned", yeah, even if it was, that doesn´t make it invalid. Why exactly is he different? Because in the manga he didn´t transformed in SSGSS? So far no one has come up with a solid explanation of WHY EoZ seens to be no longer valid/impposible to happen, outside of the fan overobsession about Power Levels.

There´s a 10 years gap between the final Majin Bu fight and the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai, anything could have happened in that time period.

[Faisal Shourov]

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced.

What, why? BoG and all this new stuff is set in the ten year gap between Boo's defeat and 28th TB.
Oob was mentioned, the ending stays.

That's how retcon works. Any bew source material overwrites the existing one. If Beerus dies and Jaco disappears, it will won't be same as EoZ. 1 minor change can alter entire timeline

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

That's how retcon works. Any bew source material overwrites the existing one. If Beerus dies and Jaco disappears, it will won't be same as EoZ. 1 minor change can alter entire timeline

Then people are confusing background details of EoZ being retconed with EoZ no longer being frame by frame the same, which the later as of now is still not the case.

[Kuririn Fan]

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced.

What, why? BoG and all this new stuff is set in the ten year gap between Boo's defeat and 28th TB.
Oob was mentioned, the ending stays.

That's how retcon works. Any bew source material overwrites the existing one. If Beerus dies and Jaco disappears, it will won't be same as EoZ. 1 minor change can alter entire timeline

What the fuck? No, thats not how retcon works. Nothing suggests that the EoZ is retconned. Beerus and Jaco have no reason to be at that tournament.
It has been clearly stated that all this new stuff takes place in the 10 year gap, before Oob appears, and he was mentioned in Super. And even if he wasnt mentioned, Goku still asked for Boo to be reincarnated. Nothing is changed there.

[Brettjr25]

They can make EOZ work and i do hope they rewrite it, Goku ditching his family was stupid. I dont think it can ever technically be retconned since it was the manga's ending and no new toriyama manga is produced.

EOZ is silly with inconsistencies but they cant just ignore it I suppose. Dont know why goku with Blue Kaioken abilities thinks a human with buu's ki would be a challenge or think of him as someone who can finally give him a challenge in a world with gods of destruction, blue vegeta, hit and other high tier fighters from other universes. Gokus desire just no longer make sense. It was understandable in EOZ. BUU was highest tier, more than a challenge for ss3 goku and a god destroyer...now, well just look at how fat buu is treated.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

EOZ is silly with inconsistencies but they cant just ignore it I suppose. Dont know why goku with Blue Kaioken abilities thinks a human with buu's ki would be a challenge or think of him as someone who can finally give him a challenge in a world with gods of destruction, blue vegeta, hit and other high tier fighters from other universes. Gokus desire just no longer make sense. It was understandable in EOZ. BUU was highest tier, more than a challenge for ss3 goku and a god destroyer...now, well just look at how fat buu is treated.

Freeza training for 4 months with a fodder level soldier manages to archieve God Tier power level. After seeing that, Goku would be even more interested in training someone with Bu's power, moreover Ub wouldn't be training with a fodder, no, he would be training with a "God", making his jump in power bigger than Freeza could dream of. Goku's motivation in EoZ still males senae.

[Cetra]

It was already retconned the moment Battle of Gods was announced.

What, why? BoG and all this new stuff is set in the ten year gap between Boo's defeat and 28th TB.
Oob was mentioned, the ending stays.

That's how retcon works. Any bew source material overwrites the existing one. If Beerus dies and Jaco disappears, it will won't be same as EoZ. 1 minor change can alter entire timeline

No it is not. If I write a story and then decide to write something inbetween I do not automatically and magically destroy what I wrote before. I always depends on what I want.