Why is Broly popular?

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu May 05, 2016 2:34 pm

Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
And Broli is very similar to Grade 3 Trunks : same hair - only green, big muscles, same eyes, face...
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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 05, 2016 3:27 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Not the point I was getting at. You are in effect saying that Broly's popularity is BECAUSE he's shallow.
Many fans of Dragon Ball, usually casual fans, are easily hooked by characters who's personality or concept are skin deep at best. When fans of Broly see him mindless fighting people and destroying shit, while either yelling, grunting or screaming "Kakarot", which is pretty much his entire personality, and as I said is very superficial in regards to his character, that is what a lot of fanbase love about him. They love that his character is the superficial, shallow, one dimensional "wreck shit, while yelling and grunting". Because in their minds, that is what epitomizes Dragon Ball. They dig that superficial shit.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by ABED » Thu May 05, 2016 3:39 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:Not the point I was getting at. You are in effect saying that Broly's popularity is BECAUSE he's shallow.
Many fans of Dragon Ball, usually casual fans, are easily hooked by characters who's personality or concept are skin deep at best. When fans of Broly see him mindless fighting people and destroying shit, while either yelling, grunting or screaming "Kakarot", which is pretty much his entire personality, and as I said is very superficial in regards to his character, that is what a lot of fanbase love about him. They love that his character is the superficial, shallow, one dimensional "wreck shit, while yelling and grunting". Because in their minds, that is what epitomizes Dragon Ball. They dig that superficial shit.
But why him? Out of all the characters, why Broly? You don't think other characters have the same issues Broly does? These same fans also really liked Vegeta.

"Because in their minds, that is what epitomizes Dragon Ball." Is this bit of insight through reading or talking to them? There's also this air of condescension in your post.
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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 05, 2016 4:31 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:Not the point I was getting at. You are in effect saying that Broly's popularity is BECAUSE he's shallow.
Many fans of Dragon Ball, usually casual fans, are easily hooked by characters who's personality or concept are skin deep at best. When fans of Broly see him mindless fighting people and destroying shit, while either yelling, grunting or screaming "Kakarot", which is pretty much his entire personality, and as I said is very superficial in regards to his character, that is what a lot of fanbase love about him. They love that his character is the superficial, shallow, one dimensional "wreck shit, while yelling and grunting". Because in their minds, that is what epitomizes Dragon Ball. They dig that superficial shit.
But why him? Out of all the characters, why Broly? You don't think other characters have the same issues Broly does? These same fans also really liked Vegeta.

"Because in their minds, that is what epitomizes Dragon Ball." Is this bit of insight through reading or talking to them? There's also this air of condescension in your post.
Why Broly of all characters? It's a combination of him getting more exposure through being in three movies and being shoehorned into damn near every Dragon Ball game under the sun since mid 90s, despite being a movie character. Not to mention how much his power is wanked in some of the video games he appear. Plus, Vic Mignogna was an awesome VA for Broly. And provided that menacing baritone voice just really fit the character for who he was.

Look, I'm not trying to condescending in the slightest. I'm not a fan of Broly, I'm not gonna lie, but I don't hold anything against people who are fans or look down on people who are fans. To be honest, I think nostalgia also plays a huge part in why Broly is so popular. Many of the kids, teens and even adults who were into Dragon Ball Z during its heyday, just dig the basic premise of Broly because he was basically a streamlined amalgamation of everything that many fans at that time mainly tuned in to see in Dragon Ball Z: Muscular men with weird hear styles, randomly beating the shit of people while screaming at the top of their lungs. It may not be fancy or sophisticated in the slightest, but that was what entertained them and they got in spade with Broly. And of the more they saw of it, they more they grow attached to it. If you were do a poll for fans to ask Dragon Ball fans who there favourite antagonist in the entire franchise was, I'm almost certain that Broly would make into the top 5.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu May 05, 2016 4:42 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
And Broli is very similar to Grade 3 Trunks : same hair - only green, big muscles, same eyes, face...
Doesn't Steve Simmons use Broly in the funi subtitles ?
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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Xeztin » Thu May 05, 2016 4:44 pm

I think its because he IS the dubbed version of DBZ. Dubbed Dbz was punching, screaming, kicking, hard rock music, and Ki blasts. Broly is the embodiment of that times 10, plus in his movies in the dubbed version we get more hard rock/metal. Also the thought of a "Legendary Super Saiyan" one that is born every 1000 years I think? That is beyond a normal Super Saiyan really grabs your attention. Plus this guy being a psycho and out of control just goes through the roof with the fans. I like Broly myself and him being a Saiyan, a Super Saiyan, and a legendary one with a different form at that is what made me like him. In some ways you can compare Broly to Joker who does thing for kicks for no reason at all other than to satisfy himself. The difference between them is that he's not a villain with a mastermind plan, he doesn't have a plan for world domination, he's just this blood thirsty Saiyan who's closer to his Oozaru side to be honest. I don't try to fit the guy into the normal Dragon Ball storyline either, I look at him as a character for a DB movie.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by ABED » Thu May 05, 2016 4:45 pm

Broly's popularity isn't new. It's the reason he got three movies.
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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by dario03 » Thu May 05, 2016 5:31 pm

Xeztin wrote:I think its because he IS the dubbed version of DBZ. Dubbed Dbz was punching, screaming, kicking, hard rock music, and Ki blasts. Broly is the embodiment of that times 10, plus in his movies in the dubbed version we get more hard rock/metal. Also the thought of a "Legendary Super Saiyan" one that is born every 1000 years I think? That is beyond a normal Super Saiyan really grabs your attention. Plus this guy being a psycho and out of control just goes through the roof with the fans. I like Broly myself and him being a Saiyan, a Super Saiyan, and a legendary one with a different form at that is what made me like him. In some ways you can compare Broly to Joker who does thing for kicks for no reason at all other than to satisfy himself. The difference between them is that he's not a villain with a mastermind plan, he doesn't have a plan for world domination, he's just this blood thirsty Saiyan who's closer to his Oozaru side to be honest. I don't try to fit the guy into the normal Dragon Ball storyline either, I look at him as a character for a DB movie.
Isn't Broly popular in Japan? Pretty sure he didn't get 3 movies based on dub popularity, especially not Funi dub popularity seeing how all 3 movies came out in Japan before Funi dubbed any of Z.
Also Japanese DBZ is all those things minus the hard rock, and some other stuff too but that stuff is mostly still present in dubbed Z as well.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Xeztin » Thu May 05, 2016 6:04 pm

I was looking at it from a Dub perspective but that's a good input, as for Japan... I have no idea why he is popular. Maybe the same minus the rock music? Maybe our cultures aren't as different as we think when it comes to our view on things like Dragon Ball.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu May 05, 2016 10:21 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
Not like that's a bad thing consider those names are pretty much exactly the same

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Bansho64 » Thu May 05, 2016 10:28 pm

I think part of the reason Broli is so popular is because of the inconsistencies of his strength. It varies a lot between each movie so it's hard to analyze. Because of these inconsistencies, part of the fanbase loves to debate how strong he was or if he had unlimited power. There are so many theories out there about him that it would take years to cover all of them. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube just made to debate his strength.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Fri May 06, 2016 2:11 am

Bansho64 wrote:I think part of the reason Broli is so popular is because of the inconsistencies of his strength. It varies a lot between each movie so it's hard to analyze. Because of these inconsistencies, part of the fanbase loves to debate how strong he was or if he had unlimited power. There are so many theories out there about him that it would take years to cover all of them. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube just made to debate his strength.
This is why i hate Broli. IIRC Koyama the creator himself said that Broli is the strongest movie villain which is so untrue. Janenba would eat him alive.
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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by TekTheNinja » Fri May 06, 2016 2:51 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
Not like that's a bad thing consider those names are pretty much exactly the same
Yeah I never saw the big deal with the spelling of the names. They're usually pronounced the same, and just spelled slightly differently.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by dario03 » Fri May 06, 2016 3:33 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:
Bansho64 wrote:I think part of the reason Broli is so popular is because of the inconsistencies of his strength. It varies a lot between each movie so it's hard to analyze. Because of these inconsistencies, part of the fanbase loves to debate how strong he was or if he had unlimited power. There are so many theories out there about him that it would take years to cover all of them. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube just made to debate his strength.
This is why i hate Broli. IIRC Koyama the creator himself said that Broli is the strongest villain which is so untrue. Any form of Boo,Janenba would eat him alive.
Wasn't that said in reference to when they were trying to come up with a villain idea for movie 10? As in he was saying that he was having a hard time coming up with a stronger villain (or reason for the villains strength) but couldn't so he just decided to use Broly again? So it would of been before either of them had come out. Also Buu was from the series and they were talking about the movies.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Vados_chan » Fri May 06, 2016 4:00 am

Broly actually had something of a personality in his first movie, it's just that in the 2nd one and pretty much every game, he's a retard who can only say "KAKAROT!"

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri May 06, 2016 4:09 am

soppa saia people wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
And Broli is very similar to Grade 3 Trunks : same hair - only green, big muscles, same eyes, face...
Doesn't Steve Simmons use Broly in the funi subtitles ?
Yeah, even he can make a mistake, even if it's nothing serious ofc. It's broccoli, not broccoly.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Fri May 06, 2016 4:39 am

dario03 wrote: Wasn't that said in reference to when they were trying to come up with a villain idea for movie 10? As in he was saying that he was having a hard time coming up with a stronger villain (or reason for the villains strength) but couldn't so he just decided to use Broly again? So it would of been before either of them had come out.
I don't remember maybe. Wasn't Koyama disappointed when Beers was introduced because Beers was stronger than Broli and he couldn't believe it. I heard about it somewhere.
wrote: Also Buu was from the series and they were talking about the movies.
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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by Vados_chan » Fri May 06, 2016 4:44 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
And Broli is very similar to Grade 3 Trunks : same hair - only green, big muscles, same eyes, face...
who cares what names you post? it's all the same unless you have OCD

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by dario03 » Fri May 06, 2016 5:09 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
soppa saia people wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:Also : *Broli *Coola *Janenba *Hildegarn
I still use dub names for movie villains, fuck!
And Broli is very similar to Grade 3 Trunks : same hair - only green, big muscles, same eyes, face...
Doesn't Steve Simmons use Broly in the funi subtitles ?
Yeah, even he can make a mistake, even if it's nothing serious ofc. It's broccoli, not broccoly.
Is it really a mistake though? Translations can often be done multiple ways, plus the name is a pun. And we don't have Cacarotto/Cacarot even though its carrot, not karrot.

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Re: Why is Broly popular?

Post by rereboy » Fri May 06, 2016 5:10 am

Bansho64 wrote:I think part of the reason Broli is so popular is because of the inconsistencies of his strength. It varies a lot between each movie so it's hard to analyze. Because of these inconsistencies, part of the fanbase loves to debate how strong he was or if he had unlimited power. There are so many theories out there about him that it would take years to cover all of them. There are hundreds of videos on YouTube just made to debate his strength.
What inconsistencies? He had a certain level in movie 8 (below SSJ2 but not very far at all), and in the movie 10 he was a bit stronger probably due to a zenkai (equal or slightly stronger than a SSJ2). And bio-broly is just a clone that doesn't even fight.

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