"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
MozillaVulpix
Regular
Posts: 669
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:01 pm
Contact:

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MozillaVulpix » Mon May 09, 2016 3:44 am

Knowing that this idea originally came from the editorial department restored a bit of my faith in Toriyama.

Oh, sure, this might be a ridiculously fanservice-y, poorly written arc, but at least I can say "Well, this arc came from the editorial department. It's probably just trying to be a toy commercial and nothing else. What was I expecting?"

At least Toriyama's input will make it entertaining. Hopefully.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

https://www.youtube.com/c/MozillaVulpix

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon May 09, 2016 3:45 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Dragon Ball is making bank right now and Toriyama is happily contributing, they have no reason to end the series any time soon.
I don't think it'll end soon but when they decide to, I think the big tournament will be it's last arc which could be a year or 5 years from now.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
ArchedThunder
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5718
Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:03 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Mon May 09, 2016 3:47 am

MozillaVulpix wrote:Knowing that this idea originally came from the editorial department restored a bit of my faith in Toriyama.

Oh, sure, this might be a ridiculously fanservice-y, poorly written arc, but at least I can say "Well, this arc came from the editorial department. It's probably just trying to be a toy commercial and nothing else. What was I expecting?"

At least Toriyama's input will make it entertaining. Hopefully.
We dont know what exactly was suggested to Toriyama, it could have just been "Bring back Trunks".
I feel like people should try to avoid jumping to conclusions since we know next to nothing.
sintzu wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Dragon Ball is making bank right now and Toriyama is happily contributing, they have no reason to end the series any time soon.
I don't think it'll end soon but when they decide to, I think the big tournament will be it's last arc which could be a year or 5 years from now.
Fair enough. I personally think we'll be getting the tournament sooner and it will lead directly in to a multiversal threat.

User avatar
ssj_duelist
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:11 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ssj_duelist » Mon May 09, 2016 3:50 am

Ireally hope Trunks has managed to become ss2 whilst he's been gone. He could have gone trained in the RoSaT.

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon May 09, 2016 3:54 am

MozillaVulpix wrote:It's probably just trying to be a toy commercial and nothing else.
Super as a whole has been more of a toy commercial than anything else.

I just hope they're going to actually use him in a way that justifies his return and not like Freeza where he was just brought back to sell merchandise.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

Kishido
Banned
Posts: 1553
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:57 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kishido » Mon May 09, 2016 3:55 am

This sounds so bad... Really bad.

Now I want to see if Future Bulma and Trunks at least tried to get to New Namek to revive Goku and Co... Or do they still give no fucks? Just look at our Bulma. She can search the whole universe already...

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon May 09, 2016 3:57 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Fair enough. I personally think we'll be getting the tournament sooner and it will lead directly in to a multiversal threat.
I can see that happening but where do they go after taking out a threat like that ?
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
namekiansaiyan
I Live Here
Posts: 4358
Joined: Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:39 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 09, 2016 3:59 am

Dragonball Super is now turning into Fanfiction. This arc is going to be set in different places and timelines so a lot of characters will be needed which means other characters should play bigger roles and especially since it was originally the editorials idea. Just make sure there is no crap in this arc Toriyama. There will be a more complicated story will is also good.
My prediction is that when everyone was supposed to of died in Trunks' timeline they actually didn't and went to some other dimension and are now evil.

My Predictions:
Black Goku returns and kills Gohan immediately as that is Gohan's role now.
Universe 6 characters return.
The group get seperated and spread across the universe 6 and 7 to solve the problem.
Black Goku is not the only one there is also Black Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan.

User avatar
Vados_chan
Banned
Posts: 171
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:50 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Vados_chan » Mon May 09, 2016 4:03 am

Also Goku as a villain? it's not enough that he hogs the spotlight as a hero, now he's got to be a major villain too? :problem:

I'd prefer Broly over this, and i say that as a Broly hater.

And shouldn't Trunks be only SSJ2 level? Unless he got SSJ3 which even then is pointless since Goku and Vegeta can beat guys that strong with one arm tied behind their back.

User avatar
Black_Liger
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1333
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:26 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Black_Liger » Mon May 09, 2016 4:06 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:
TheDBZmaster100 wrote:Very disappointed to hear that Trunks is returning. For God's sake ... some characters needs be left alone once their respective arcs have concluded.. (look how Frieza's return in ROF was handled, it was awful). 'Black Goku'? What ?
This is ridiculous.
Agreed. Glad i am not the only one disappointed with the lack of originality in Super.
I do not see how time travel across different universes is lacking in originality, for all I know, not even american superheroes do that, It's either time travel, or multiversal travel not the two of them. If anything this could be the most ambitious story Toriyama has ever done, I'm just gonna wait until the actual arc starts, Toriyama's writing has been really good in the U6 Tournament arc, even when he wanted it to be "bright and simple" it was real good, and since he is now avoiding that wording I'm gonna support what he aims to do.
There's room for only one snake, and one big boss.

User avatar
ssj_duelist
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:11 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ssj_duelist » Mon May 09, 2016 4:07 am

sintzu wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Fair enough. I personally think we'll be getting the tournament sooner and it will lead directly in to a multiversal threat.
I can see that happening but where do they go after taking out a threat like that ?
I thin this is the main reason I still prefer GT, it never wrote itself into a corner. Of course the downside to this was that it made characters look weaker than they should have been.

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon May 09, 2016 4:08 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: My prediction is that when everyone was supposed to of died in Trunks' timeline they actually didn't and went to some other dimension and are now evil.
This is what I'm afraid of, I'm afraid that he's going to undo Trunks' past and bring everyone back so that his story won't be the serious tragedy that it's known for.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
ssj_duelist
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 109
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:11 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ssj_duelist » Mon May 09, 2016 4:09 am

Black_Liger wrote:
Saikyo no Senshi wrote:
TheDBZmaster100 wrote:not even american superheroes do that, It's either time travel, or multiversal travel not the two of them.
The Flash Season 2 is doing literally this right now.

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon May 09, 2016 4:11 am

Vados_chan wrote:Also Goku as a villain? it's not enough that he hogs the spotlight as a hero, now he's got to be a major villain too? :problem:
DB is his story so it makes sense for him to be the hero but I get what you mean so hopefully our Goku won't be the one who takes him down.
Vados_chan wrote:And shouldn't Trunks be only SSJ2 level? Unless he got SSJ3 which even then is pointless since Goku and Vegeta can beat guys that strong with one arm tied behind their back.
He might do the ritual and get Ssj red.
Last edited by sintzu on Mon May 09, 2016 4:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
SansrivaaL
I Live Here
Posts: 3757
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:29 pm
Location: Earth

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Mon May 09, 2016 4:13 am

dbzfan7 wrote:Oh no...I see it now. Goku beats Goku black by becoming Goku White. So that's when Toriyama will introduce the white form :lol:.
This tho, even if you were just kidding there's actually a possibility of this :lol:
Black V White, Day V Night, Evil V Good, Toriyama's been watching B v S with them being best friends after their mother gets revived and makes them food.

User avatar
namekiansaiyan
I Live Here
Posts: 4358
Joined: Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:39 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 09, 2016 4:17 am

sintzu wrote:
Vados_chan wrote:Also Goku as a villain? it's not enough that he hogs the spotlight as a hero, now he's got to be a major villain too? :problem:
DB is his story so it makes sense for him to be the hero but I get what you mean which is why I hope out Goku won't be the one who takes him down.
Vados_chan wrote:And shouldn't Trunks be only SSJ2 level? Unless he got SSJ3 which even then is pointless since Goku and Vegeta can beat guys that strong with one arm tied behind their back.
He might do the ritual and get Ssj red.
I think Goku will not beat the main villain as it would be stupid. Maybe Beerus and Whis defeat him or Piccolo gets Namekian God or Trunks has been trying to perfect a new form or a team effort or another type of fusion which involves trunks and Gohan or Vegeta finall gets to beat 'Goku'.
It seems like they are going across universes and time so any of these things could happen.

User avatar
Araki
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1453
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:54 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Mon May 09, 2016 4:18 am

ssj_duelist wrote:I thin this is the main reason I still prefer GT, it never wrote itself into a corner.
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

In fact, only reason they had the stupid, lame, terrible idea of turning Goku back into a child (and make Vegeta and everyone else weaker) was because they couldn't bother thinking of bigger and credible threats. In what world is that good writing? I'd rather see it writing itself into a corner eventually, if that's the alternative.
Last edited by Araki on Mon May 09, 2016 4:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

Jaetinh
Regular
Posts: 539
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:59 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Jaetinh » Mon May 09, 2016 4:22 am

This time Toriyama doesn't say 'It's a simple story', instead he says 'There's some confusing bits with time changing here and there, but just bear with me'. Great :)


We're getting a mature Trunks back, but how old is he? In his late 20s/early 30s?

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Mon May 09, 2016 4:23 am

namekiansaiyan wrote: I think Goku will not beat the main villain as it would be stupid. Maybe Beerus and Whis defeat him or Piccolo gets Namekian God or Trunks has been trying to perfect a new form or a team effort or another type of fusion which involves trunks and Gohan or Vegeta finall gets to beat 'Goku'.
Keep in mind this is a Toei idea so chances are they're going to want Goku to be the hero.

You have good ideas but it seems like they're afraid of doing something like that, Look how they handled Freeza, even though Vegeta saved Goku and beat him they still couldn't let him have a full victory in fear of it taking away from Goku.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

Fraxiel
Newbie
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:26 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Fraxiel » Mon May 09, 2016 4:25 am

Trunks looks damaged and in the interview or whatever when toriyama say's that he barely escapes the future alive. I feel like that scarf is Bulma's Trust me I'm almost 100% sure about this, shit is going to down.. but everybody is jumping the gun on this fan fiction shit when they don't know what the plot really is....

Post Reply