The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: Earth versus Garlic

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri May 13, 2016 2:01 am

TenshinFan wrote: How about these:

Tullece (no fruit) vs Kwi

Nappa vs Selipa

Giant Lord Slug vs Piccolo+Nail fusion

Salza, Dore, Naise vs Cell Saga Ten, Kuririn, Yamcha

Ginger, Sansho, Nikki vs suicidal Chaozu

14 & 15 vs Metal Coola & Mecha Freeza
- Probably Tullece. I don't have anything to back this up. Just going by gut feeling.
- Nappa's an idiot, so maybe Selipa?
- Giant Slug has a power advantage, but lacks the necessary speed to keep up with Piccolo.
- Team Earth wins with only Yamcha as a casualty.
- Is this before or after Chaozu trained under Kami? Because if after, Chaozu schools them with ease.
- Assuming Metal Coola is allowed to repair himself, he wins handedly.
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Re: Earth versus Garlic

Post by apex_pretador » Fri May 13, 2016 2:38 am

TenshinFan wrote: How about these:

Tullece (no fruit) vs Kwi

Nappa vs Selipa

Giant Lord Slug vs Piccolo+Nail fusion

Salza, Dore, Naise vs Cell Saga Ten, Kuririn, Yamcha

Ginger, Sansho, Nikki vs suicidal Chaozu

14 & 15 vs Metal Coola & Mecha Freeza
Tullece was quite stronger than 18000 piccolo, who is on the same level of power as kiwi

Nappa - he's an elite

They are even in power but while slug has better regen, piccolo has better skill. Piccolo goes giant and becoems more powerful than him, while matching him in H2H. He will ultimately finish him off.

Salza fought off nailccolo, he stomps.

Chiaotzu doesn't need suicide. He dodonpas them.

Mecha freeza is trash, cooler can handle them at the same time with trouble.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Fri May 13, 2016 4:38 pm

A few fights :

- Android #18 vs. SSJ Son Goku (Android arc, healthy).
- Mr. Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Pambukin, Totepo) vs. Dr. Uiro's henchmen (Ebifurya, Kishime, Misokatsun).
- Garlic Jr's Spice Boys (Spice, Vinegar, Mustard, Salt) vs. Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu (all Revival of F).
- SSJ Son Gohan (hypothetical) vs. Piccolo (Android arc).
- Future Trunks (base, Trunks arc) vs. Vegeta (Trunks arc).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri May 13, 2016 4:54 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:A few fights :

- Android #18 vs. SSJ Son Goku (Android arc, healthy).
- Mr. Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Pambukin, Totepo) vs. Dr. Uiro's henchmen (Ebifurya, Kishime, Misokatsun).
- Garlic Jr's Spice Boys (Spice, Vinegar, Mustard, Salt) vs. Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu (all Revival of F).
- SSJ Son Gohan (hypothetical) vs. Piccolo (Android arc).
- Future Trunks (base, Trunks arc) vs. Vegeta (Trunks arc).
- Goku is, at best, as strong as Vegeta. So #18 wins without breaking a sweat.
- Boo is a little weaker and a lot less skilled, but he still has crazy magical and regenerative powers, so I dunno? Paikuhan maybe?
- The Saiyans struggle for a little bit before they get frozen. Uiro has his pick for a new body. He picks Selypa.
- Never actually saw the Garlic Jr filler arc, so pass.
- In my head, Gohan is, at best, as strong as Goku was when he fought Freeza (not counting Kaioken), whereas Piccolo is as strong as SS Goku after he returned from Yardrat. So Piccolo would be a bit stronger and a lot more skilled. Gohan gets crushed.
- Vegeta is still a notch below base Goku from the Freeza arc, and Trunks is a notch that, so Trunks wins without too much trouble.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Smilodon » Fri May 13, 2016 5:01 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:A few fights :

- Android #18 vs. SSJ Son Goku (Android arc, healthy).
- Mr. Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Pambukin, Totepo) vs. Dr. Uiro's henchmen (Ebifurya, Kishime, Misokatsun).
- Garlic Jr's Spice Boys (Spice, Vinegar, Mustard, Salt) vs. Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu (all Revival of F).
- SSJ Son Gohan (hypothetical) vs. Piccolo (Android arc).
- Future Trunks (base, Trunks arc) vs. Vegeta (Trunks arc).
Tough one, but I think Goku wins;
Mr Boo.
I don't know
At ROF? Time Z for sure....But in android arc it would be intersting
why hypothetical? He was SSJ in android arc, just after rosat...In this case Son Gohan easily
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Fri May 13, 2016 5:28 pm

I meant pre-ROSAT Gohan, Smilodon.

How about :

- Jaco vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Master Roshi (ROF) vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Tarble vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Kaioshin vs. SSJ Trunks.
- Tenshinhan vs. Krillin and Yamcha (all 23rd Budokai).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 13, 2016 5:40 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:A few fights :

- Android #18 vs. SSJ Son Goku (Android arc, healthy).
- Mr. Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Pambukin, Totepo) vs. Dr. Uiro's henchmen (Ebifurya, Kishime, Misokatsun).
- Garlic Jr's Spice Boys (Spice, Vinegar, Mustard, Salt) vs. Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu (all Revival of F).
- SSJ Son Gohan (hypothetical) vs. Piccolo (Android arc).
- Future Trunks (base, Trunks arc) vs. Vegeta (Trunks arc).
- Goku gets wrecked
- Majin Boo stomps hard
- Bardock's crew wipe the floor with Dr. Uiro's henchmen
- Krillin alone would kill all of the Spice Boys
- Piccolo gives Gohan a spanking
- Future Trunks takes this 9/10

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri May 13, 2016 5:42 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:I meant pre-ROSAT Gohan, Smilodon.

How about :

- Jaco vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Master Roshi (ROF) vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Tarble vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Kaioshin vs. SSJ Trunks.
- Tenshinhan vs. Krillin and Yamcha (all 23rd Budokai).
- Jaco is weaker than the average Saiyan adult. Assuming Raditz (PL: 1,500) is supposed to represent that, A single Namekian (PL: 3,000) is more than enough to stomp Jaco into the ground.
- Buff Roshi is probably enough to take on one of the Namekians, but not all three at once.
- Tarble's power is completely undefined, other than that he's weak for the royal family. I'd say he's at least 5,000, which is comfortably above the Namekians' 3,000, but his lack of battle sense and the Namekians' advantage in numbers probably means that they win.
- Which Trunks?
- Tenshinhan probably isn't strong enough to deal with Kuririn and Yamcha at the same time without using the Kikoho, which the other two know to dodge. Ten loses.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Fri May 13, 2016 5:58 pm

Which Trunks?
Post-ROSAT kid Trunks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 13, 2016 6:01 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:- Jaco vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Master Roshi (ROF) vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Tarble vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Kaioshin vs. SSJ Trunks.
- Tenshinhan vs. Krillin and Yamcha (all 23rd Budokai).
- If the Namekian Warriors can work together properly, they can pick of Jaco easily.
- See the answer above.
- Tarble gets wasted instantly.
- Trunks one shots
- Close battle. I think Tien will come out on top as he is the more experienced and smarter fighter.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ssbgoku » Fri May 13, 2016 7:37 pm

Wow, awesome thread I am glad I finally have found it ;p. I am new here so I am sorry but I will not resolve all the fights you guys posted before. However I promise to do it in future. Anyway here are my own matches:

dbs base goku vs dbgt base goku
dbs ssj goku vs dbgt ssj goku
buu arc ultimate gohan vs dbs/dbgt base goku

What do you guys think ?. I believe they are good matches. I just want to say it is adult goku gt

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pocket-God » Fri May 13, 2016 7:52 pm

~Bojack runs the Cell Games Gauntlet~

Run 1: Blue Bojack
Run 2: Green Bojack
Run 3: Green Bojack + Zangya and those other guys of his

1. Android 16
2. Piccolo
3. SSJ Trunks
4. SSJ Vegeta
5. Super Buff Trunks
6. 3 Cell Jrs
7. SSJ Goku
8. Perfect Cell (vs Goku)
9. SSJ Gohan
10. Full Power Perfect Cell
11. Super Perfect Cell
12. SSJ2 Gohan

Needless to say everyone is their Cell Games versions, everyone is serious and willing to fight to the end.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Fri May 13, 2016 8:17 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:- Android #18 vs. SSJ Son Goku (Android arc, healthy).
- Mr. Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Pambukin, Totepo) vs. Dr. Uiro's henchmen (Ebifurya, Kishime, Misokatsun).
- Garlic Jr's Spice Boys (Spice, Vinegar, Mustard, Salt) vs. Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu (all Revival of F).
- SSJ Son Gohan (hypothetical) vs. Piccolo (Android arc).
- Future Trunks (base, Trunks arc) vs. Vegeta (Trunks arc).
— Goku gets pwned hard. He himself is weaker than Vegeta who gets wrecked by #18, and admitted that he won't do any good against the Androids without training in the Room of Spirit and Time.
— I actually have Unweighted Paikuhan stronger than Buu due to filler logic, but he gets turned into candy.
— No idea.
— No idea either.
— Gohan ends up a little stronger, but Piccolo wins this as he is more skilled.
— Trunks is slightly stronger.However, Vegeta can win if he can to pull out a dirty trick like he did against Zarbon. Tough call, i'd say 50-50.
In Brightest Day wrote:- Jaco vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Master Roshi (ROF) vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Tarble vs. 3 Namekian warriors.
- Kaioshin vs. SSJ Trunks.
- Tenshinhan vs. Krillin and Yamcha (all 23rd Budokai).
— Jaco is weaker than an adult Saiyan, and either one of the Namekians are twice stronger than Raditz. Jaco gets stomped hard here.
— I usually have Buff Roshi around the same tier as Raditz, so gets stomped here.
— Abo and Cado wouldn't waste their time hunting a guy who is literally over 10x weaker than them, adding how Tarble managed to survive and escape from the duo's wrath and the gang calling his ki huge, i put Tarble around the same league as the Kaio-ken Goku that fought Ginyu. So yeah, Tarble wins without using any effort whatsoever.
— I'm still having a hard time placing Kaioshin because i still hasn't come to conclusion wether Gohan is SS, SS 1.5 or SS2 against Dabra. At best, i put Kaioshin than Boo Arc SS Goku, at the lowest, he's as strong as Cell Games Goku. So i'll pass this one. By the way, i have Pre RoSaT Trunks as strong as CG Goku while have his Post RoSaT self as strong as CG FPSS Gohan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri May 13, 2016 8:19 pm

Pocket-God wrote:~Bojack runs the Cell Games Gauntlet~

Run 1: Blue Bojack
Run 2: Green Bojack
Run 3: Green Bojack + Zangya and those other guys of his

1. Android 16
2. Piccolo
3. SSJ Trunks
4. SSJ Vegeta
5. Super Buff Trunks
6. 3 Cell Jrs
7. SSJ Goku
8. Perfect Cell (vs Goku)
9. SSJ Gohan
10. Full Power Perfect Cell
11. Super Perfect Cell
12. SSJ2 Gohan

Needless to say everyone is their Cell Games versions, everyone is serious and willing to fight to the end.
Blue Bojack blitz through everyone until he stops dead in his tracks against Full Power Perfect Cell.
Green Bojack makes it all the way to SPC before SSJ2 Gohan stomps him.
Green Bojack and the rest of his galactic space pirates squash everyone in their path until SSJ2 Gohan easily slaughters all of them.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Fri May 13, 2016 9:48 pm

GT Piccolo (Super 17 arc) vs Buuhan (Final Form Rild absorbed)
GT Frieza / Cell vs Buuhan (Final Form Rild absorbed)

My speculation:
First Form Rild in his suppressed state held enough of an edge on some unspecified form of Buu (likely Buuhan) to elicit a remark from Goku.

Cell and Frieza were likely a good degree stronger than Rild, as they were privileged with the opportunity to square off against their old enemy. I'm sure there were other factors involved (how badly they despised Goku), but that doesn't downplay the fact that they were still willing to take on a fighter that trumped Rild. Although their confidence was likely ego-driven, it seems probable that there was some validity behind their bold statements, as Goku was showing subtle hints of distress on two occasions; once when blocking a barrage of Frieza's ki blasts and the other when he was locked in hand to hand combat with the former. This to me is an indicator that Frieza wasn't worlds below Goku as some like to believe, but rather fell short by only a few notches.

Piccolo seemingly took over the HFIL and kept all of its inhabitants in check; a strong implication that he had more than enough power to trump even their finest (Cell, Frieza, and Rild), while comfortably calling the villain-ridden place his new home. From this we could speculate that GT Piccolo would effortlessly one-shot Buuhan, and throwing Rild into the equation wouldn't be of much help, as the vast majority of this hypothetical Buuhan / Rild absorption would be drawing the vast majority of his power from the latter, who was likely several notches below Piccolo.

It's hard to gauge the gap between Cell / Frieza and Rild, but at the very least, it should be enough for the duo to still eradicate Buuhan with ease, as Base Rild, who is likely several notches below his final incarnation, was already notably stronger than Buu (likely the strongest incarnation).

When all is said and done, I adhere to the following:

Piccolo > > Frieza / Cell > > Final Form Rild > Second Form Rild > Base Rild > Buuhan

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri May 13, 2016 10:40 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:
Which Trunks?
Post-ROSAT kid Trunks.
In my eyes, Kaioshin is somewhere between Cell Games Goku and a Cell Junior, whereas Kid Trunks maxes out as being about as strong as Cell Games Vegeta or Trunks, or Boo Arc Piccolo. So in short, Kaioshin wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Fri May 13, 2016 11:20 pm

DanielSSJ wrote: - Jaco is weaker than the average Saiyan adult. Assuming Raditz (PL: 1,500) is supposed to represent that, A single Namekian (PL: 3,000) is more than enough to stomp Jaco into the ground.
The only Namekian warrior is Nail (PL: 42,000)
Young Namekian are not warriors.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Fri May 13, 2016 11:26 pm

ssbgoku wrote:Wow, awesome thread I am glad I finally have found it ;p. I am new here so I am sorry but I will not resolve all the fights you guys posted before. However I promise to do it in future. Anyway here are my own matches:

dbs base goku vs dbgt base goku
dbs ssj goku vs dbgt ssj goku
buu arc ultimate gohan vs dbs/dbgt base goku

What do you guys think ?. I believe they are good matches. I just want to say it is adult goku gt
For now, I can't tell if Super and GT are suposed to be part of the same storyline. It would be fair to assume Goku got stronger years later.. In relation to Gohan, I think both the series have decided to give Goku the edge, no matter in which form he is. Goku can even match a restrained Beerus, something Gohan isn't capable of doing, I believe.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri May 13, 2016 11:37 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote: - Jaco is weaker than the average Saiyan adult. Assuming Raditz (PL: 1,500) is supposed to represent that, A single Namekian (PL: 3,000) is more than enough to stomp Jaco into the ground.
The only Namekian warrior is Nail (PL: 42,000)
Young Namekian are not warriors.
I never used the phrase "Warrior Namekian." I just noted that the three who show up in the village should be strong enough to beat Jaco, based on the power levels.
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Frost (4th form) vs. Coola (5th form)

Equal power levels. Who wins?
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