"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed May 18, 2016 4:09 pm

I think you missed the real point of what he was saying.

Toriyama has proven to be pretty inconsistent with colors, especially in recent drawings. His drawing of Android 18 for Battle of Gods, I believe it was, gave her purple hair. In every single actual adaptation of that storyline though, it's been blonde as it always has. The same thing will happen now with this new design for Future Trunks, outside of the very unlikely chance a reason is given in-story for his hair color being different.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed May 18, 2016 4:24 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I think you missed the real point of what he was saying.

Toriyama has proven to be pretty inconsistent with colors, especially in recent drawings. His drawing of Android 18 for Battle of Gods, I believe it was, gave her purple hair. In every single actual adaptation of that storyline though, it's been blonde as it always has. The same thing will happen now with this new design for Future Trunks, outside of the very unlikely chance a reason is given in-story for his hair color being different.
In this very thread we show we had a character design that had Kid Trunks with blue hair, for Battle of Gods. I don't get why people are still on about this. This already happened once, so it's not that out of the ordinary. Trunks will most likely have purple hair again when he appears.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Makai » Wed May 18, 2016 5:47 pm

It would just be confusing, and not a good idea anyways to make his hair blue, just because of the fact that SSJB exists.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Khin » Wed May 18, 2016 9:32 pm

I hope there's some new info in this. Now, all we need is a translator. :D

Edit: It looks like they mentioned Age 784 - 788. Probably some new info ?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed May 18, 2016 9:39 pm

Khin wrote:I hope there's some new info in this. Now, all we need is a translator. :D

Edit: It looks like they mentioned Age 784 - 788. Probably some new info ?
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It definitely looks like more info will appear in an upcoming Weekly Jump issue. I don't see anything about Gokû Black though (which is fine with me because it gives me a little more time to play with my headcanon for him before the actual reveal likely explodes my own theory into pieces).
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Post by Sandubadear » Wed May 18, 2016 9:40 pm

It's probably explaining Trunks' timeline. Age 784 is when Trunks went back in time and 788 is when Trunks killed Cell.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Khin » Wed May 18, 2016 9:41 pm

Sandubadear wrote:It's probably explaining Trunks' timeline. Age 784 is when Trunks went back in time and 788 is when Trunks killed Cell.
*Looks at the image thoroughly* Yeah, you're right. Still hope there will be some new info.

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Post by kinisking » Wed May 18, 2016 10:21 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:The thing with Dark or not is how serious the subject material is taken. You can have a single killing be more dark than mass genocide, depending on how serious the material wants us to take it. Beerus blowing up half a planet for petty reasons, is a gag. It has dark subtext, but we're not supposed to take it too seriously. We're supposed to laugh at how petty Beerus is for what he did. We also have no attachment to those he killed, so we don't care. In comparison to Future Gohan dying which we're supposed to take fully seriously. It's treated as a dark moment.

This isn't to argue about dark moments are there or not in Super. The subtext is there, and can be found in a lot of material that isn't inherently dark. Super has dark subtext, and sometimes it's right out there. Though what hurts it and the series in general, is the baggage from the Boo arc. Too many safety nets. Piccolo's recent death is outright laughable when Goku himself knows how easy it is to bring him back. It's not even a big deal by the end. Death is meaningless. I'm not worried for anyone because who the hell cares? There is no real loss.

But when we went to the tournament arc. Tension came right back. Stakes came back. Why is that? Cause now death isn't important. It's about winning the tournament. So now getting eliminated can happen. We've had some close calls and surprises. So now the danger was something else. Goku going Kaio-Ken was not suspense filled because he might die. Death is meaningless. It is because he might lose the bout as it's heavily straining.

So now heading back into an arc where it's not about a sporting event, we're gonna be back in death is meaningless territory, and yet I'll never be worried so long as the safety nets are still around. Those and the abundance of godly figures. Hopefully the arc addresses all these things as they killed all worrying I could ever have from the first two arcs.
This. How are we supposed to have any real tension when there are 3 sets of dragonballs?
And to sintzu it might be the 4th arc but the first two were just retellings so we can't really judge Super's future direction on those. The retelligns were darker than the movies at least. Not only that, but the arcs have been really short thus far. I think this arc with future trunks will be slightly longer (around 20-30 episodes) and much darker. You can't have future trunks without a dark tone imo. Especially with that hardened look he's sporting.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sonicjamareiz » Wed May 18, 2016 10:47 pm

kinisking wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:The thing with Dark or not is how serious the subject material is taken. You can have a single killing be more dark than mass genocide, depending on how serious the material wants us to take it. Beerus blowing up half a planet for petty reasons, is a gag. It has dark subtext, but we're not supposed to take it too seriously. We're supposed to laugh at how petty Beerus is for what he did. We also have no attachment to those he killed, so we don't care. In comparison to Future Gohan dying which we're supposed to take fully seriously. It's treated as a dark moment.

This isn't to argue about dark moments are there or not in Super. The subtext is there, and can be found in a lot of material that isn't inherently dark. Super has dark subtext, and sometimes it's right out there. Though what hurts it and the series in general, is the baggage from the Boo arc. Too many safety nets. Piccolo's recent death is outright laughable when Goku himself knows how easy it is to bring him back. It's not even a big deal by the end. Death is meaningless. I'm not worried for anyone because who the hell cares? There is no real loss.

But when we went to the tournament arc. Tension came right back. Stakes came back. Why is that? Cause now death isn't important. It's about winning the tournament. So now getting eliminated can happen. We've had some close calls and surprises. So now the danger was something else. Goku going Kaio-Ken was not suspense filled because he might die. Death is meaningless. It is because he might lose the bout as it's heavily straining.

So now heading back into an arc where it's not about a sporting event, we're gonna be back in death is meaningless territory, and yet I'll never be worried so long as the safety nets are still around. Those and the abundance of godly figures. Hopefully the arc addresses all these things as they killed all worrying I could ever have from the first two arcs.
This. How are we supposed to have any real tension when there are 3 sets of dragonballs?
And to sintzu it might be the 4th arc but the first two were just retellings so we can't really judge Super's future direction on those. The retelligns were darker than the movies at least. Not only that, but the arcs have been really short thus far. I think this arc with future trunks will be slightly longer (around 20-30 episodes) and much darker. You can't have future trunks without a dark tone imo. Especially with that hardened look he's sporting.
I see this a lot and I don't know where people got this idea from what if its just the standard 13-15 episodes?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ssgvegito30 » Wed May 18, 2016 11:22 pm

I hope we get more info on future trunks arc and about the episode count, I think it will be a longer arc maybe like 20-25 episodes long.

Some people here said the scarf on trunks neck is bulma's and maybe she's dead in the future if that's true I wonder if future trunks goes back to future after his arc ends or will we still see him in DragonBall super to me his green sweater outfit design gives me time patrol trunks vibes maybe the next arc is the beginning of the time patrol trunks if that's the case maybe we'll see Kai of time as well anyways I'm really interested what happens in the future arcs if time patrol trunks is a thing in DragonBall super I hope it's a completely new story not a rehash of xenoverse or dbo!!!!
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Post by vashter » Wed May 18, 2016 11:58 pm

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I dont knwo if this post yet but I just found it off twitter.

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Post by vashter » Wed May 18, 2016 11:59 pm

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Someone translate this lol

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu May 19, 2016 12:01 am

The first one is fan art and the second one is for Fusions and Heroes, thus has nothing to do with Super. Discuss Gohanks: EX and Gohanks: Future in the appropriate game threads.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Thu May 19, 2016 12:41 am

So is Trunks already a SSJB or is that a new hair color for him?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Thu May 19, 2016 12:46 am

SansrivaaL wrote:So is Trunks already a SSJB or is that a new hair color for him?
Neither. Toriyama just colored his hair blue, like he did with kid trunks in BOG. It will probably get changed in the anime version to regular hair color.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Nejishiki » Thu May 19, 2016 1:24 am

That aside, even if Trunks were Super Saiyan Blue, his hair would reflect that, I would think. Goku has his Super Saiyan hair when he becomes Super Saiyan Blue.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu May 19, 2016 1:58 am

I'm almost certain that Twitter Gokû Black is fanart I saw on DA yesterday, but I don't have a link, unfortunately.

I wouldn't expect any reveal on him until June, he seems to be what Shueisha is trying to keep secret until later, design wise.
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Post by sailorspazz » Thu May 19, 2016 4:08 am

HECTOR4 wrote:From new V-Jump:
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Can't really see any new info here. The year listings in the bottom left are just explanations of what Trunks did in the various timelines before. The text in the circle below Trunks wonders if the future is supposed to be peaceful now, why does he look all beat up? And various other teasing text that doesn't directly say anything new, just hints that more info will come later.

When this arc starts, I really hope when Trunks returns from the future, it shows what year he's jumping back to so we can finally clear up for certain when Super is taking place!
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Thu May 19, 2016 5:19 am

vashter wrote:
I dont knwo if this post yet but I just found it off twitter.
As has been stated, it's just fanart.
I already posted it in the relevant thread: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1089654
sailorspazz wrote:When this arc starts, I really hope when Trunks returns from the future, it shows what year he's jumping back to so we can finally clear up for certain when Super is taking place!
I didn't even think of that! And yeah that would be neat. Of course, when Trunks first goes back he doesn't state what Age he's travelled to and what Age he came from. It first got revealed later that Cell came from Age 788, 3 years later than Trunks' second travel, from where all the official calculations for the timeline came about, which they seem to stick to. Maybe Toriyama won't give a specific Age this time though?

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