Everything around Frost. The whole added background, him courageously not giving up "for the children". The whole Vegeta is being pushed back by SSJ Cabba, which is what I would call unnecessary time, compared with the four extra hits Vegeta takes to finish Frost in the manga.Araki wrote:What "fights" are you talking about, exactly? The only one more dramatic in the anime was Vegeta vs Magetta.LightBing wrote:Yeah, the fight's in the manga are more grounded and don't try to give us tension that isn't there. It makes more sense to those who ask "why don't they just turn SSJB and end this".
Oh, and it's worth remembering that even while in the anime Vegeta went SSJ and immediately one-shotted Frost, in the manga he lost a lot of unnecessary time and energy beating him up.
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I prefer Toyotaro's and I don't understand why Jiji has BlueGeta's eyes as completely black(!!)
I do like that he leaned more on the side of having Vegeta's hairstyle being more soft and round, than Toyotaro's very sharp hairstyle akin to SS2, but even then I'd prefer it to be drawn just slightly differently.
I do like that he leaned more on the side of having Vegeta's hairstyle being more soft and round, than Toyotaro's very sharp hairstyle akin to SS2, but even then I'd prefer it to be drawn just slightly differently.
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Not entirely sure why the most popular DB doujinshi artists are all redrawing this page. Either way, it's pretty awesome to see everyone's take on things, even if some chose to just do sketches.
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They probably mean Diavolo's stand,King Crimson. It can "steal" up to 10 seconds of time, while he moves freely during that time, seemingly teleporting to people looking from outside. However, although he can see the other people during the time steal, he can't actually attack them, only when the time flow goes back to normal. Coincidentally, even in the anime, Hit never seemed to attack during the timeskip itself before his ability started to evolve, although the description already implied that time was frozen.alakazam^ wrote:A 2ch user mentioned that Jaco's explanation in the manga for Tokitobashi meant that it was like Diablo instead of The World. I don't follow Jojo so I don't know what this means but since a lot of people were comparing the techniques, I thought it would be interesting to know. Either way, I haven't seen the text so I can't say this is accurate.
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The World is just a time stop (like Guldo). King Crimson is way more complicated, since it erases a few seconds of time, so anything that happens in those seconds is erased and nobody remembers except Diavolo. Diavolo himself can't attack during the time erase since it will also be erased, only after time goes back to normal, and to the other people it looks like he teleported, so he can catch people off-guard.alakazam^ wrote:A 2ch user mentioned that Jaco's explanation in the manga for Tokitobashi meant that it was like Diablo instead of The World. I don't follow Jojo so I don't know what this means but since a lot of people were comparing the techniques, I thought it would be interesting to know. Either way, I haven't seen the text so I can't say this is accurate.
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It reminds me of something Hawkeye said when he first fights Zoro in One Piece. You don't use a cannon to kill a fly.ArchedThunder wrote:People are STILL complaining about them not just going Blue to coast through the tournament? How do they improve from that? How is that a rewarding experience for them? Goku and Vegeta wanted the tournament to be a chance to get stronger, blasting through enemies that are a match for them in their lower forms by just using a higher transformation isn't going to help them improve one bit.
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While I overall prefer Toyotaro's art style as a whole, I have to say, the way in which Jijii draws aura's and hairstyles is wonderful.Ajay wrote:Interesting to see that AF artist Young Jijii redrew panels from this month's chapter:
Example 1:Example 2:Spoiler:Really interesting to note the differences. I think I finally understand what Kei17 meant by Toyotaro's manga feeling like watching the anime rather than reading a continuation of Toriyama's manga. Personally I'm quite fond of both, but Jijii draws hair better than Toyotaro by an absolute landslide.Spoiler:
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I like Lee's the most. That angle Vegeta is drawn at in the bottom right panel really outlines his form best.
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I also prefer Lee's take. I think his style generally is very fun.JulieYBM wrote:I like Lee's the most. That angle Vegeta is drawn at in the bottom right panel really outlines his form best.
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I'm of the opposite opinon. I thought Lee's was hideous and the worst out of the 3
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Aw, I also liked it best. Lee's so good at mimicking Toriyama's various styles. Especially his current style and early Dragon Ball stuff. His Dragon Ball Sai manga is great.
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Okay, that picture you linked does look amazing! I still don't like his rendition of that page though.Ajay wrote:Aw, I also liked it best. Lee's so good at mimicking Toriyama's various styles. Especially his current style and early Dragon Ball stuff. His Dragon Ball Sai manga is great.
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I guess the popularity of the page is the Vegeta transformation, but I must say that Jijii draws the best excited Goku, I think.
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I prefer Toyotaro. Young jiji is a good imitator tough.
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Whats up with the redraws? are they trying to prove something or is simply fond of redrawing the scenes? anyways I still prefer Toyotarou's style, how he draws the expressions and aura's are better for me.
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Also his motion blurs are Toryamish.SansrivaaL wrote:Whats up with the redraws? are they trying to prove something or is simply fond of redrawing the scenes? anyways I still prefer Toyotarou's style, how he draws the expressions and aura's are better for me.
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I greatly prefer Toyotaro's style, though Young JiJii is definitely a close second. Toyotaro's SSGSS and Goku are both fantastic. I'm not crazy about the way Young JiJii draws Goku's face or SSJ hair.
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PIccolo's fight in the manga was so much better than in the anime. Piccolo, even though he was outclassed, was holding his own and in the end didn't concede to Vegeta like some kind of bitch. The anime version was one of the worst excuses for a battle I've ever seen.
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Wow, Jijii did a marvelous job with the redraw.Lord Beerus wrote:Interesting to see that AF artist Young Jijii redrew panels from this month's chapter:
Example 1:Example 2:Spoiler:Really interesting to note the differences. I think I finally understand what Kei17 meant by Toyotaro's manga feeling like watching the anime rather than reading a continuation of Toriyama's manga. Personally I'm quite fond of both, but Jijii draws hair better than Toyotaro by an absolute landslide.Spoiler:
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I preferred the anime. The strategy was better, it was a longer fight, and i liked how piccolo called himself the strategist of u7. It didn't make sense how piccolo was using his stretchy arms in the manga when technically frost should be able to grab his hand and throw him down on the floor. Heck, he could have just flown up behind him or something since he's so much stronger. Likewise, the anime didn't make sense when Piccolo was blocking his punches.saiyanvegetable wrote:PIccolo's fight in the manga was so much better than in the anime. Piccolo, even though he was outclassed, was holding his own and in the end didn't concede to Vegeta like some kind of bitch. The anime version was one of the worst excuses for a battle I've ever seen.
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