900 Minutes of Uncut Action, DBZ Season 1 Arrives

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:04 pm

You people know the rules; you agreed to them before signing up. We do not support bootlegs, and will not tolerate discussion of bootlegs. I have no problem promptly banning without additional warning.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:08 pm

Oh. Sorry. I thought saying things along the lines of "bootlegs are total crap" was okay to do.

Meh. Whatever. I'll be back after you get around to reviewing the "big orange thing" or whatever you call it.

Gokuden553 · Post by **Gokuden553** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:20 pm

Synapse wrote:
Gokuden553 wrote:Actually the English subbed Dragon Box bootlegs have the most accurate subtitles I have ever seen, with translated names such as Emma-Daio and Saiya-jin not to mention they wearn't actually stolen from a different fansubber... if I recall episodes 1-67 were the only ones which were accuratelly subbed. *You may have originally seen them on youtube which were the so called RAW Dragon Box episodes*
Do you have any clips or links to clips of these apparently really accurate subs? I had no idea bootlegs would work so well.

Sorry I can't post any links since I bought them nor clips either, however I can post a screen cap of the sub traslation for you.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:23 pm

Kendamu wrote:Oh. Sorry. I thought saying things along the lines of "bootlegs are total crap" was okay to do.

That's totally fine, but the discussion should never even have to get to the point of bringing that fact up.

Synapse · Post by **Synapse** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:12 pm

Gokuden553 wrote:Sorry I can't post any links since I bought them nor clips either, however I can post a screen cap of the sub traslation for you.

Hmmm, wow. Looks pretty nice actually. I think I might even have that torrented or something.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:20 pm

How is it bootlegged if it doesn't exit?

As far as I know Dragonbox does not have a subbed version.

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:52 pm

Whether a DVD is bootleg or not is unrelated to whether it is a copy of an existing DVD release or not. A bootleg DVD is one that is produced without permission from the original rights holder. FUNimation (and Madman) licensed the series from Toei so they can legally release English-subtitled DVDs; to the best of my knowledge all other English-subtitled DVDs (and certainly all the ones on eBay) are bootlegs.

email2003 · Post by **email2003** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:32 pm

Well I bought a bootleg DBZ DVD to see how it was and it's bad. Video wise, the video is not bad but they crammed 9 episodes per disk. I own only episodes 1-27 on 3 DVDs in a set.

The good:
1. I think these episodes come from the DragonBox.
2. The original Japanese credits are in tact for every episode.
3. They have episode previews on these DVD's.
4. 9 episodes per DVD!!

The bad:
1. Horrible English subs. Sometimes translated right but then goes all wrong afterwards.
2. Not every episode preview is shown on every episode. Only at the last episode on each disk contain the episode previews.

If only there was a way I can somehow get FUNi's subs and place them on these bootlegs I own.

Sorry I had to bring up bootleg crap here on this disscussion. I just wanted to add my two cents in on the matter.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:08 pm

I'm sorry if I'm being a little off topic for some of this.

I happened to get some Naruto DVD's off of ebay awhile back as a birthday present(Episodes 1-205), and the quality was very nice. I'm currently learning Japanese and usually watch them just to see how much I can translate without reading the subtitles, and when I am fully able to understand enough, I plan on getting original DVD's(Hopefully by then the series will be remastered.) and watching it without subtitles.(If must feel good to those of you who can speak Nihongo.)
I'm not doing this with dragonball because the quality could be terrible and I respect DB too much. I was also wondering how ebay could just allow these things to be sold on their website.

Gokuden553 · Post by **Gokuden553** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:18 pm

Synapse wrote:
Gokuden553 wrote:Sorry I can't post any links since I bought them nor clips either, however I can post a screen cap of the sub traslation for you.

Hmmm, wow. Looks pretty nice actually.

Hehe thanks, here's two more pictures of the subtitle translation before I call it a day

As you can see from the screen shots, the fansubbers accuratelly called them by their real names such as Kakarotto and Saiyajin. I'm certain these are possible Japanese Dragon Box spanish rips yet the quality is too good for even them.

As for why the sub translation is so accurate it's possibly because fansubers for DBZ were more advanced in their day.

Tomorrow I'll try and find the one hell of a sub translation of Goku's speech to Vegeta about letting him go, until then I'll leave you with those images to discuss if the translation is accurate to your Vegeta saga episodes or not

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:22 pm

Guys, you might get banned for this. Just saying.

If you MUST bootleg a DVD, don't announce it to the world.

Gokuden553 · Post by **Gokuden553** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:25 pm

JAPPO wrote:Guys, you might get banned for this. Just saying.

If you MUST bootleg a DVD, don't announce it to the world.

Hay JAPPO, when you said that you think Dragonbox doesen't have a subbed version... don't mine count?

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:26 pm

The sky is blue in that picture...

I messed with in Photoshop by just doing an "auto adjust" for levels and it looked the way the Dragon Box pictures looked. I wonder if that would happen to any picture though or of it's actually supposed to look that way...

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:29 pm

Gokuden553 wrote:Hay JAPPO, when you said that you think Dragonbox doesen't have a subbed version... don't mine count?

No. Please stop post bootlegs, you fucking moron. Thank you.

-Corey

email2003 · Post by **email2003** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:34 pm

Gokuden553 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Guys, you might get banned for this. Just saying.

If you MUST bootleg a DVD, don't announce it to the world.
Hay JAPPO, when you said that you think Dragonbox doesen't have a subbed version... don't mine count?

Is that bottleg DVD or just another MPEG off the internet!? Those subtitles are much better than FUNi's small font ones.

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:45 pm

As you can see from the screen shots, the fansubbers accuratelly called them by their real names such as Kakarotto and Saiyajin. I'm certain these are possible Japanese Dragon Box spanish rips yet the quality is too good for even them.

Saiyajin is real? Ok...*Restrains from going into a Saiyan vs Saiyajin debate*

Hay JAPPO, when you said that you think Dragonbox doesen't have a subbed version... don't mine count?

The Dragon Box is not subbed. You don't own a Dragon Box. You own a bootleg.

I messed with in Photoshop by just doing an "auto adjust" for levels and it looked the way the Dragon Box pictures looked. I wonder if that would happen to any picture though or of it's actually supposed to look that way...

Wow. Note to FUNimation: An easier way to do a 'frame-by-frame remastering' than cropping. Auto-adjust on Photoshop

This sounds interesting, though. I'm gonna give it a go. I'll let you know what happens.[/quote]

Gokuden553 · Post by **Gokuden553** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:45 pm

email2003 wrote:
Gokuden553 wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Guys, you might get banned for this. Just saying.

If you MUST bootleg a DVD, don't announce it to the world.
Hay JAPPO, when you said that you think Dragonbox doesen't have a subbed version... don't mine count?
Is that bottleg DVD or just another MPEG off the internet!? Those subtitles are much better than FUNi's small font ones.

What's an MPEG, all my episodes were bought on an ebay auction so it's most deffently a bootleg DVD... though I'm asking if the subtitle translation is accurate or not and not the image itself.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:25 am

Here's what I meant:

This is what happened when I did auto adjust for the levels.

VS

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:27 am

email2003 wrote:Is that bottleg DVD or just another MPEG off the internet!? Those subtitles are much better than FUNi's small font ones.

They actually aren't all that much better, seeing as they are using a Verdana typeface, which isn't well-suited for DVD subtitles. (See why.)

Gokuden553 wrote:What's an MPEG, all my episodes were bought on an ebay auction so it's most deffently a bootleg DVD... though I'm asking if the subtitle translation is accurate or not and not the image itself.

What's an MPEG? Oh boy. In short, an MPEG is an electronic video format. It's what all DVD movies are actually rendered in.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:29 am

Eclipse wrote:Saiyajin is real? Ok...*Restrains from going into a Saiyan vs Saiyajin debate*

Saiyajin is the same as Saiyan, it's just Japanese. Just like I'd be an Amerikajin vs. an America. It's preference.

What's an MPEG, all my episodes were bought on an ebay auction so it's most deffently a bootleg DVD... though I'm asking if the subtitle translation is accurate or not and not the image itself.

For the love of God, shut up. MPEG is a video compression standard, DVD's are MPEG-2 in particular. Please, shut up about your bootlegs, no one cares about the scripts. The subtitles don't appear to be from a DVD due to their appearance, unless they're hardsubbed (meaning they are actually a part of the image and can't be turned off).

-Corey

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