The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

New matches:

1% Full Power Beerus runs the gauntlet: (Survival matches/no healing)

- SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG)
- SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
- Super Gotenks 3 (BoG)
- Ultimate Gohan (BoG)
- SSJ3 Gogeta (BoG)

Beerus clears without batting an eyelid.

[apex_pretador]

Yajirobe is significantly stronger than Kami, and very likely stronger than Chiaotzu , who himself should be around BoZ Piccolo (maybe)

So by that logic, Piccolo is weaker than Kami? Because, unless if Kami did some secret training that nobody knows about, he should be just as strong as he was when he was introduced, which would be a lot weaker than Piccolo Junior. And post-training Chaozu would probably be definitely stronger than Kami and probably be stronger than pre-training Piccolo, whereas pre-training Chaozu should be a lot weaker than either of them.

Not following your logic here.
apex's logic was perfectly fine: Yajirobe definitely stronger than Kami(who fought Garlic Junior, hence the comparison), and likely stronger than Chaozu, who might be on BoZ Piccolo's level, so:

Kami < Yaji = fact.
Piccolo(BoZ) ~ Chaozu < Yaji = maybe, obviously implying that Pic and Chaoz also are stronger than Kami, as that's why we can't know for sure, if Yaji is stronger than them.

^^^^ That's what I meant.

New matches:

1% Full Power Beerus runs the gauntlet: (Survival matches/no healing)

- SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG)
- SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
- Super Gotenks 3 (BoG)
- Ultimate Gohan (BoG)
- SSJ3 Gogeta (BoG)

Clears

Also, out of order. BoG SS3 goku is heavily implied to be above Gotenks and Gohan.

[Noah]

Also, out of order. BoG SS3 goku is heavily implied to be above Gotenks and Gohan.

Show me the statement, I'm failing to remember.

[Sandubadear]

Also, out of order. BoG SS3 goku is heavily implied to be above Gotenks and Gohan.

Show me the statement, I'm failing to remember.

Beerus says that only Vegeta was a better fight than Goku.

[LightBing]

Also, out of order. BoG SS3 goku is heavily implied to be above Gotenks and Gohan.

Show me the statement, I'm failing to remember.

Beerus says that only Vegeta was a better fight than Goku.

No. He said Vegeta was better than Goku, it didn't include Gotenks or Gohan or anybody else.

[Sandubadear]

No. He said Vegeta was better than Goku, it didn't include Gotenks or Gohan or anybody else.

Yeah, but he said that after fighting everyone. If Gohan or Gotenks were stronger than Goku, he would mention it.

[Khin]

Grey Buu vs. SS2 Vegeta [Post Majin]
Good Buu [Right after the splitting] vs. SS2 Teen Gohan [25th TB]

[dbgtFO]

Grey Buu vs. SS2 Vegeta [Post Majin]
Good Buu [Right after the splitting] vs. SS2 Teen Gohan [25th TB]

The Buus stomp on both occasion.

[apex_pretador]

Also, out of order. BoG SS3 goku is heavily implied to be above Gotenks and Gohan.

Show me the statement, I'm failing to remember.

• Vegeta called goku #1
• Vegeta has sensed buuhan and he still thinks it is impossible that goku was 2-shotted
• No one but vegeta was said to surpass goku
• Everyone said "Vegeta has surpassed EVEN goku" implying that goku is the strongest one. No one mentioned vegeta surpassed EVEN gohan, because goku is stronger than gohan.
  It is just like everyone saying that M vegeta even surpassed kid gohan, not adult gohan.
• AT's comment that everyone is at their best in BoG implies that gohan is as strong as buu arc.

Grey Buu vs. SS2 Vegeta [Post Majin]
Good Buu [Right after the splitting] vs. SS2 Teen Gohan [25th TB]

Grey buu > Fat buu > Vegeta
and the differences are quite large

Good buu will curbstomp any SS2 barring fusions in buu arc.

[DanielSSJ]

Grey Buu vs. SS2 Vegeta [Post Majin]
Good Buu [Right after the splitting] vs. SS2 Teen Gohan [25th TB]

- The Boo of Pure Evil has a slight power advantage, and his regenerative abilities tip the odds further into his favour. Vegeta has a shot, but it isn't great.
- Gohan actually has the advantage, power-wise. Unfortunately, his lack of training and Mr. Boo's regeneration tip the odds back into Boo's favor. Judging from how Gohan stacked up to Dabra, who was inferior to him, power-wise, makes me think that Mr. Boo will take this one.

[Tyro]

17 VS 18

Personally I've always doubted 17's claims of superiority, due to his egotistical personality, and there aren't really any feats to suggest that he's actually more powerful.

It's stated on one of the title pages that #18 was built with suppressed power compared to #17 (most likely an experiment by Dr. Gero to see if he could control them if he reduced their power by just a little). So #17 wins this fight.

was that written by Toriyama?

sorry if I'm ignorant, I've yet to read the manga but I'm planning too

Yep, he wrote/drew all of the title pages. The one I was talking about was Chapter #367. It's actually full to the brim with unique information!

[Overlord78]

No. He said Vegeta was better than Goku, it didn't include Gotenks or Gohan or anybody else.

Gohan, Gotenks and Buu put up a far less better fight than Vegeta did against Beerus so it really doesn't matter if he was only talking about Goku

[MaxZ]

Yep, he wrote/drew all of the title pages. The one I was talking about was Chapter #367. It's actually full to the brim with unique information!

interesting page, thanks

I searched a bit and found the english translation, and strangely all of the androids were referred to as an 'it' rather than by gendered pronouns

[Pocket-God]

SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 1 SSG Goku
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 2 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 3 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 4 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 5 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 6 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 7 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 8 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 9 SSG Gokus
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 10 SSG Gokus
SSB Kaioken x10 Goku and SSB Vegeta vs 20 SSG Gokus

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Personally I'd say they pass the first 4 rounds but after that it starts getting pretty difficulty, I'm gonna go with...they stop at 6 SSG Gokus

Note; Battle takes place in space but everyone can breathe, everyone is 100% serious and uhh...Goku and Vegeta get fully restored after each battle.

[ssbgoku]

Another awesome and interesting matches from dbs. I know they should be done in the past, but as we get further into anime we can look at some things from another perspective. There will be both movies and anime versions.

1) ssj goku all ki combined(false god ritual) vs 10% beerus

My opinion: ssj goku all ki combined was noted to have incredible power and beerus was only slightly moved but he didn't seem to power down from 10%, however it was failing in compare to expection of ssg power, however he seemed to be more interested in that goku power then says rage vegeta. Around same tier.
2) ssj goku all ki combined(false god ritual) vs ss vegetto

My opinion: I could see them on par with each other. Although ssj goku all ki combined was noted to be inredible power even in some translations mentioned as the greatest power ever felt.

3) ssj goku all ki combined (false god ritual) vs u6 ssj goku/vegeta

My opinion: I have ssj goku/vegeta from universe 6 around ss vegetto buu arc/bog arc, I guess that would be interesting battle.

4) 10% beerus vs ss2 vegetto

My opinion: Close battle as vegetto being still above enraged vegeta who was at least 2% of beerus to survive his attack, means that even ss vegetto should be at least 5% at full power even pushing to 7, I can see fair battle.

5) Enraged ssj2 vegeta vs frost

My opinion: Frost isn't that all that powerfull so I enraged ssj2 vegeta wining.
Well have a fun with these matches and good luck

[Khin]

ssj goku all ki combined(false god ritual) vs 10% beerus
ssj goku all ki combined(false god ritual) vs ss vegetto
ssj goku all ki combined (false god ritual) vs u6 ssj goku/vegeta
10% beerus vs ss2 vegetto
Enraged ssj2 vegeta vs frost

— Current SSB Goku and Vegeta is apparently still weaker than 10% Beerus, due to Kaio-Ken x10 Goku being implied to be someone inferior to Champa and Beerus/Toriyama-hyped Monaka. At best, i can see this SS Goku as someone stronger than Enraged SS2 Vegeta. So he gets decked badly.
— SS3 Vegetto is twice weaker than SS God Goku in my opinion. So that puts his regular Super Saiyan 8x weaker than Goku. Which is more than enough to trump Goku with ridiculous ease. I believe Beerus just lied about using his 10% power against Vegeta for the same reason he lied to SS God Goku about using his Full Power.
— I'm still having a hard time on putting Vegeta and Goku on the power placement, but the "SS God" Goku in my opinion was just supposed to be Goku + Gohan + Vegeta + Trunks + Goten's power. Base on the episode 45 preview. Copy-Vegeta looks like he will be at least on par with SS3 Gotenks. So with Super Saiyan, i think either Goku or Vegeta will be more than enough to beat "SS God" Goku. But unless i'll see episode 45, I'm not 100% sure for this.
— Vegetto loses, see my second answer.
— Same as my third answer. I need to wait for the next episode to give a proper answer.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

New matches:

1% Full Power Beerus runs the gauntlet: (Survival matches/no healing)

- SSJ2 Vegeta (BoG)
- SSJ3 Goku (BoG)
- Super Gotenks 3 (BoG)
- Ultimate Gohan (BoG)
- SSJ3 Gogeta (BoG)

Beerus clears without batting an eyelid.

He needed 10% to deal with a tired ssj2 who was damaged with anger boost. SSj2 vegeta is like 4% of beerus' power.

[ssbgoku]

ssj goku all ki combined(false god ritual) vs 10% beerus
ssj goku all ki combined(false god ritual) vs ss vegetto
ssj goku all ki combined (false god ritual) vs u6 ssj goku/vegeta
10% beerus vs ss2 vegetto
Enraged ssj2 vegeta vs frost

— Current SSB Goku and Vegeta is apparently still weaker than 10% Beerus, due to Kaio-Ken x10 Goku being implied to be someone inferior to Champa and Beerus/Toriyama-hyped Monaka. At best, i can see this SS Goku as someone stronger than Enraged SS2 Vegeta. So he gets decked badly.
— SS3 Vegetto is twice weaker than SS God Goku in my opinion. So that puts his regular Super Saiyan 8x weaker than Goku. Which is more than enough to trump Goku with ridiculous ease. I believe Beerus just lied about using his 10% power against Vegeta for the same reason he lied to SS God Goku about using his Full Power.
— I'm still having a hard time on putting Vegeta and Goku on the power placement, but the "SS God" Goku in my opinion was just supposed to be Goku + Gohan + Vegeta + Trunks + Goten's power. Base on the episode 45 preview. Copy-Vegeta looks like he will be at least on par with SS3 Gotenks. So with Super Saiyan, i think either Goku or Vegeta will be more than enough to beat "SS God" Goku. But unless i'll see episode 45, I'm not 100% sure for this.
— Vegetto loses, see my second answer.
— Same as my third answer. I need to wait for the next episode to give a proper answer.

Well First, thank you for response, but it seems some details escaped your eyes xD. My questions matches were supposted by bog god scale Akira came up with. Also I am certain 10x kaioken would only anime idea as they tend to over power some scenes or character, however using just kaioken with blue was enough to scare beerus as would be at the most 14 but including stamina issue and risk plus using it only in short burst beerus would win also possible beerus could freeze goku for time being with some technique as dbs focused to show more about technique.

- I believe he would be match less or more for ss vegetto
- hmm I can see it match too
- ok, let's wait and see then
- OK, however if 10% line of beerus stays and enraged ssj2 vegeta only suprassing ss3 goku while impressing beerus, then I would sure ss2 vegetto would at least make 10% beerus run for his money
- ok

[BitchIlooklikeGoku]

Yajirobe



vs


Jaco

[DanielSSJ]

Yajirobe vs Jaco

I generally peg Jaco as being about as strong as Goku was during the 23rd Budokai or the fight with Raditz, so Yajirobe after being trained by God would undoubtedly beat him.