"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Smilodon]

Will this "Black Goku" have white hair? Toryiama said the next villain will have white hair...We saw ROF and U6 tournment but only Vados has white hair, but she isn't villain...But the Super Sayajin White will be future because the next villain has white hair...

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Toriyama never said the next villain would have white hair. He said white hair would clash with the next villain...which we still have no actual certainty on who he was talking about, but it was probably Freeza based on the context of his statement in regards to designing SSGSS for "F".

[Araki]

wow
https://twitter.com/eiko751/status/734915096791506944

Why is that wow?

Toriyama said there will be changes in time that could get complicated, Gods getting involved, etc, so i seriously doubt it's gonna be straight to the point like that.

No, he said he hoped that it wouldn't be complicated for kids.

No, that was in the interview with Toyotaro. I'm talking about what Toriyama said when the new arc was announced. This:

"It’s the start of a battle that surpasses time and space, and drags in the God of Destruction, Kaiōshin, even the Omni-King! Many mysteries will be revealed!

There’s some confusing bits with time changing here and there, but just bear with me. It should definitely turn out to be a fun story!"

[dbgtFO]

I'm holding out for Toriyama making Goku Black literally black with white Super Saiyan hair.
I'm setting myself up for huge disappointment, but I don't care!
Also since the return of Trunks was apparently suggested to Toriyama, maybe the execs want to tie this in with Xenoverse?
Apparently the time scroll in the trailer features Zen-ô's symbol

[Pannaliciour]

Personally I dislike seeing literally a black Goku
It just doesn't fit. White is much better. On the other hand a black uub looks much better than a white uub

[dbgtFO]

Personally I dislike seeing literally a black Goku

I think this design is good(by SeeReax):

Spoiler:

[ArchedThunder]

Weekly Jump could leak at any time now, right?

[Chuquita]

Weekly Jump could leak at any time now, right?

I hadn't thought of there being any new info in the next Weekly Jump; I hope there'll be something new in there. :3
Yes it should be leaking some time today or tomorrow as far as I know.

[ArchedThunder]

Weekly Jump could leak at any time now, right?

I hadn't thought of there being any new info in the next Weekly Jump; I hope there'll be something new in there. :3
Yes it should be leaking some time today or tomorrow as far as I know.

V-Jump said we'd learn more about the new arc in Weekly Jump.
I'm hoping for a promotional poster style piece of artwork.

[Chuquita]

Weekly Jump could leak at any time now, right?

I hadn't thought of there being any new info in the next Weekly Jump; I hope there'll be something new in there. :3
Yes it should be leaking some time today or tomorrow as far as I know.

V-Jump said we'd learn more about the new arc in Weekly Jump.
I'm hoping for a promotional poster style piece of artwork.

Nice!

I'm hoping they have some Toriyama artwork for "Gokû Black" so we finally know if he's actually a "Gokû" or if he's just someone using the name. Or if it's even a he.

[dbgtFO]

I'm hoping they have some Toriyama artwork for "Gokû Black" so we finally know if he's actually a "Gokû" or if he's just someone using the name. Or if it's even a he.

I recall Toriyama implying it was pretty obvious, what that name was supposed to mean, so unless he's trolling, it has to be Goku with some black feature and obviously evil to some degree.

[Chuquita]

I'm hoping they have some Toriyama artwork for "Gokû Black" so we finally know if he's actually a "Gokû" or if he's just someone using the name. Or if it's even a he.

I recall Toriyama implying it was pretty obvious, what that name was supposed to mean, so unless he's trolling, it has to be Goku with some black feature and obviously evil to some degree.

I know, and I'm probably overthinking it, but I'm like "Why did they write Gokû in katakana? Is there a double, pun-meaning in there somewhere?" and "They used "kuro" in the provisional episode title instead of "black". Why did they do that?".

It'll be good to just have some of the theories put to rest; theorizing on Gokû Black has been a lot of fun, but I've exhausted my guesswork and I'm ready to learn what he actually looks/is like.

[ArchedThunder]

I'm hoping they have some Toriyama artwork for "Gokû Black" so we finally know if he's actually a "Gokû" or if he's just someone using the name. Or if it's even a he.

I recall Toriyama implying it was pretty obvious, what that name was supposed to mean, so unless he's trolling, it has to be Goku with some black feature and obviously evil to some degree.

Well he said it should be pretty obvious what the character is like , so it could be that the character is just very similar to Goku personality wise.
I'm expecting Black Goku to be that timeline's Goku though and something in death corrupted him, maybe it even has to do with how he died.

[Chuquita]

I'm hoping they have some Toriyama artwork for "Gokû Black" so we finally know if he's actually a "Gokû" or if he's just someone using the name. Or if it's even a he.

I recall Toriyama implying it was pretty obvious, what that name was supposed to mean, so unless he's trolling, it has to be Goku with some black feature and obviously evil to some degree.

Well he said it should be pretty obvious what the character is like , so it could be that the character is just very similar to Goku personality wise.
I'm expecting Black Goku to be that timeline's Goku though and something in death corrupted him, maybe it even has to do with how he died.

I'm leaning towards that sort of theory too; that it's likely a Gokû from a parallel timeline who's become corrupted somehow. I really am hoping he's got a strong similarity to Gokû in personality.

[ArchedThunder]

Here's my guess.
Black Goku is the Goku from Trunks's timeline and dying of a heart virus filled his soul with rage and this made him susceptible to corruption from something (maybe even Makaioshin) or he merged with something evil. I'm gonna bet he has dark colored outfit and he'll have an "evil" Super Saiyan form that will be exclusive to him (until Heroes gives it to Broly...) and either his base form or this transformation, or both, has a black aura.

[dbgtFO]

Here's my guess.
Black Goku is the Goku from Trunks's timeline and dying of a heart virus filled his soul with rage and this made him susceptible to corruption from something (maybe even Makaioshin) or he merged with something evil. I'm gonna bet he has dark colored outfit and he'll have an "evil" Super Saiyan form that will be exclusive to him (until Heroes gives it to Broly...) and either his base form or this transformation, or both, has a black aura.

I'm definitely with you in regards to it having to do with the dead Goku of Trunks' timeline. LightBing suggested on the previous page it could be a guy, who could wake people from the dead and then corrupt them. I myself suggested he could've become corrupted in the afterlife like what happened with Janemba, thus giving him the power to freely travel from the afterlife to the living world.

I really want it to be dead Goku somehow coming back wrong.

[Sandubadear]

Nice!

I'm hoping they have some Toriyama artwork for "Gokû Black" so we finally know if he's actually a "Gokû" or if he's just someone using the name. Or if it's even a he.

I think they won't leak Goku Black's artwork until the week of his debut, because they already showed us Trunks. Remember that in RoF, they hyped Golden Freeza like crazy but kept SSGSS a secret.

[Araki]

Personally I dislike seeing literally a black Goku

I'm hoping he's just a Goku-like character wearing a black outfit and that Trunks won't know much about him, thus calling him "Goku Black".

A literal "Goku who's black" would be kinda lame, especially after seeing purple Vegeta.

[pacz360]

Wait what leaks you guys are talking about.

[ArchedThunder]

Wait what leaks you guys are talking about.

We're gonna get more info from Weekly Jump, we're just waiting for it to leak.