How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

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How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat May 28, 2016 8:28 am

In the end of XV1, how strong do you think Future Warrior is?
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by TheatreStyleKai » Sat May 28, 2016 9:58 am

Captain Strawberry wrote:In the end of XV1, how strong do you think Future Warrior is?
The Future Warrior defeated Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta, simultaneously. So, pretty strong.

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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

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Captain Strawberry wrote:In the end of XV1, how strong do you think Future Warrior is?
The Future Warrior defeated Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta, simultaneously. So, pretty strong.
But that's a parallel quest so you can't say it's canon to XV
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Kanassa » Sat May 28, 2016 11:42 am

Captain Strawberry wrote:In the end of XV1, how strong do you think Future Warrior is?
They're able to hold off Beerus, then passed his test to be allowed to fight Demigra; who's powerful in his own right.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat May 28, 2016 6:35 pm

I'd say somewhere between Golden Freeza and Beerus

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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Grimlock » Sat May 28, 2016 6:43 pm

Demigra dodged twice from Beerus' attacks and gave him and Future Warrior a good fight in his base form (it's important to note that wasn't the actual Demigra, just a mirage) and Future Warrior defeated him alone (?) in his transformed form, so... Around Beerus? A little bit stronger perhaps?

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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Kanassa » Sat May 28, 2016 7:34 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:
TheatreStyleKai wrote:
Captain Strawberry wrote:In the end of XV1, how strong do you think Future Warrior is?
The Future Warrior defeated Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta, simultaneously. So, pretty strong.
But that's a parallel quest so you can't say it's canon to XV
Usually in games like this, it's usually assumed that the player did all side missions. Unless it's a bioware game. Though let's also remember that in parallel quests, the Warrior has help.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by nato25 » Sun May 29, 2016 7:18 pm

Strength discussions alone can get pretty absurd. Trying to determine the strength of a video game character based is even more so.

As the player you can defeat any character on the roster, but saying that so could the player playing as Raditz so I don't think you can include things like that.

If you go strictly off story which I think you have to do and even then I doubt anyone would consider this story canon which is already loosely defined in Dragon Ball as it is, you're stronger than a transformed Demigra (whose transformation really didn't seem to mean much) who didn't have enough power to control Beerus.I'd say you're on SSJ God Goku level or so, falling short of Beerus.

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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by MCDaveG » Mon May 30, 2016 7:30 am

Really, so now we are starting canon debates in in-game universe, LOL.
Future Warrior, per rule of RPG, is the strongest person in DB Universe to date, in-game, because it is YOU and YOU can become the strongest warrior in your favorite franchise.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon May 30, 2016 2:29 pm

I think it's actually hinted at in the wish that Trunks makes to summon you. The player character is "strong enough to help." He doesn't have to have some static strength; he's just strong enough to help out. That's why he can struggle with Raditz, yet beat Demigra.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by TheatreStyleKai » Mon May 30, 2016 3:19 pm

Disregarding time patrol quests and judging by the story mode battles alone, my best guess is that the Future Warrior is at least on par with SSJ4. Near the end of the GT saga, the player has to rescue Pan from a powered-up Eis Shenron / Sān Xīng Lóng with only Pan as back-up. Afterwards the player teams up with SSJ4 Vegeta and manages to hold off Omega Shenron / Yī Xīng Lóng until Goku could arrive, both feats that I presume would require SSJ4 strength at least.

I would hesitate to count the battle between the Future Warrrior and Beerus as proof of anything though, the only thing we know for certain was that Beerus wasn't fighting the protagonist very seriously.

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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Khin » Tue May 31, 2016 11:45 pm

As strong as he needs to be.

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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:39 am

Not quite as strong as Mr. Popo. Because the transformation wasn't yet complete.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:51 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:I think it's actually hinted at in the wish that Trunks makes to summon you. The player character is "strong enough to help." He doesn't have to have some static strength; he's just strong enough to help out. That's why he can struggle with Raditz, yet beat Demigra.
Doesn't that kinda falls apart at the ending? He wasn't strong enough to help when it came to finally facing Demigra for the climax the first time around. The character only got a second chance because of Toki Toki. Otherwise, they'd have failed.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:16 pm

nato25 wrote:you're stronger than a transformed Demigra (whose transformation really didn't seem to mean much) who didn't have enough power to control Beerus.I'd say you're on SSJ God Goku level or so, falling short of Beerus.
Demigra's magic doesn't work on deities. It's not because he was too weak. That and he missed Beerus IMO.

I say the Future Warrior rivals Beerus. When Beerus is your master, he says something about being rivals one day. If he would use his full power, we'd get a chance to beat him and prove we're even with or stronger than Beerus.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Captain Strawberry » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:35 pm

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nato25 wrote:you're stronger than a transformed Demigra (whose transformation really didn't seem to mean much) who didn't have enough power to control Beerus.I'd say you're on SSJ God Goku level or so, falling short of Beerus.
Demigra's magic doesn't work on deities. It's not because he was too weak. That and he missed Beerus IMO.

I say the Future Warrior rivals Beerus. When Beerus is your master, he says something about being rivals one day. If he would use his full power, we'd get a chance to beat him and prove we're even with or stronger than Beerus.
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Kanassa » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:56 pm

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nato25 wrote:you're stronger than a transformed Demigra (whose transformation really didn't seem to mean much) who didn't have enough power to control Beerus.I'd say you're on SSJ God Goku level or so, falling short of Beerus.
Demigra's magic doesn't work on deities. It's not because he was too weak. That and he missed Beerus IMO.

I say the Future Warrior rivals Beerus. When Beerus is your master, he says something about being rivals one day. If he would use his full power, we'd get a chance to beat him and prove we're even with or stronger than Beerus.
I think we rival Goku/Vegeta more then Beerus at this point, doesn't he say that the reason he stops training us is because we were starting to get ahead of Goku and Vegeta (This being before Goku begins to close the power gap)?
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:23 pm

Kanassa wrote:I think we rival Goku/Vegeta more then Beerus at this point, doesn't he say that the reason he stops training us is because we were starting to get ahead of Goku and Vegeta (This being before Goku begins to close the power gap)?
Yeah, I just didn't want to say "rival Goku and Vegeta" and start a different conversation. :crazy:
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Re: How strong is Future Warrior at the end (XV1)

Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:30 am

At the end of the main stroy he is at least as strong as SSJG in what ever form he uses. For me it was SSJ2.

At the end of the parallel quest my SSJ2 was as strong if not strong then Champa since he could beat two SSJBs and Golden Frieza.

On the BOG scale I would say the future Warrior is a 9.

Unless you take the quest where you fight Beerus and Whis Serious then there at least a 15.5.
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