"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[MozillaVulpix]

In terms of the timeline - I thought it was just saying this is taking place 17 years from the time when Super is taking place. Isn't that supposed to be the time gap between Future Trunks's timeline and our timeline? (I mean, that doesn't sound right, considering Future Trunks is 17 when he shows up, but his younger self isn't even conceived yet, so maybe it should be closer to 18 years, but when is this timeline ever consistent?)

Trunks's timeline and the main timeline seem to work parallel to each other. If time passes in one, the same time passes in another. Or, at least, that's how the time machine works.

[Sandubadear]

In terms of the timeline - I thought it was just saying this is taking place 17 years from the time when Super is taking place. Isn't that supposed to be the time gap between Future Trunks's timeline and our timeline? (I mean, that doesn't sound right, considering Future Trunks is 17 when he shows up, but his younger self isn't even conceived yet, so maybe it should be closer to 18 years, but when is this timeline ever consistent?)

Trunks's timeline and the main timeline seem to work parallel to each other. If time passes in one, the same time passes in another. Or, at least, that's how the time machine works.

Not really. I'll quote this from another thread:

Time doesn't work in a linear fashion between the two timelines. Between Trunks' first and second trips to the past, three years transpired within the main story timeline, but only 8 months transpired within his (the amount of time it took to recharge his time machine).

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The original gap is 20 years: AGE 764 to AGE 784. It's said he would go back to the future and recharge his time machine, but he could have stayed and let the whole 3 years pass for him to reach AGE 767 if that's how the time machine functioned (though nothing really supports that). It's never really addressed.

So if the Goku Black Arc is 17 years in the future from Super's current year (whatever it is), that means the time machine isn't stuck on said 20 year gap.

[kinisking]

I want to see Vegeta go up to Future Trunks and hug him while saying sorry for how he's acted. Would be a touching moment.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I want to see Vegeta go up to Future Trunks and hug him while saying sorry for how he's acted. Would be a touching moment.

Hmm...I dunno. That seems a little OOC even for the newly lightened up Vegeta. I'd be totally open for him saying or doing something else that makes it very, very clear how much he's changed even since the last time this version of Trunks saw him, though, that would be equally heartwarming. Really hoping we do get at least some kind of interaction on that front, we'd just about have to you'd think.

[Grimlock]

In Dragon Ball Xenoverse Vegeta and Future Trunks see each other again and all they do are shaking hands. I expect to see something similar in Dragon Ball Super. It would be a "more evolved" way to say "hi" or "goodbye" from that scene in the ending of Cell saga where they just make Jutsu's hands.

[dbzfan7]

I want to see Vegeta go up to Future Trunks and hug him while saying sorry for how he's acted. Would be a touching moment.

Hmm...I dunno. That seems a little OOC even for the newly lightened up Vegeta. I'd be totally open for him saying or doing something else that makes it very, very clear how much he's changed even since the last time this version of TRunks saw him, though, that would be equally heartwarming. Really hoping we do get at least some kind of interaction on that front, we'd just about have to you'd think.

Xenoverse handled it great. Just a simple handshake and smile. That's it. We don't need anything too touchy. Vegeta wouldn't treat him like garbage, but probably not too warmly.

[dbzfan7]

I want to see Vegeta go up to Future Trunks and hug him while saying sorry for how he's acted. Would be a touching moment.

Hmm...I dunno. That seems a little OOC even for the newly lightened up Vegeta. I'd be totally open for him saying or doing something else that makes it very, very clear how much he's changed even since the last time this version of TRunks saw him, though, that would be equally heartwarming. Really hoping we do get at least some kind of interaction on that front, we'd just about have to you'd think.

Xenoverse handled it great. Just a simple handshake and smile. That's it. We don't need anything too touchy. Vegeta wouldn't treat him like garbage, but probably not too warmly. Hell he hasn't really relented or felt any sorrow for most of the shit he caused, I doubt he's gonna sing another tune any time soon.

Too bad they went with the "he's a total good guy" Vegeta thing. I liked it much better in the early Boo arc where he knows he's doomed to go to hell, yet will still do the right thing. I thought it was way too soon to suddenly be a good guy who's sins are forgiven like that.

[dbgtFO]

In terms of the timeline - I thought it was just saying this is taking place 17 years from the time when Super is taking place. Isn't that supposed to be the time gap between Future Trunks's timeline and our timeline? (I mean, that doesn't sound right, considering Future Trunks is 17 when he shows up, but his younger self isn't even conceived yet, so maybe it should be closer to 18 years, but when is this timeline ever consistent?)

Trunks's timeline and the main timeline seem to work parallel to each other. If time passes in one, the same time passes in another. Or, at least, that's how the time machine works.

The manga barely touches the subject, so one could get the impression that it should logically work like you describe.
The guidebooks however established, that only 8 months passed in Trunks' timeline, while 3 years passed in the main timeline, which has been treated as undeniable fact since then in all publications. Thus the gap in years between the two timelines was 17~18, which the 17 years mentioned here is consistent with.

As you say Trunks comes from 17 years into his alternate timeline from when Super takes place.
Since the same gap in time persists even after so many years, it does seem like 1 year in Trunks' timeline = 1 year in the main timeline.
The only reason the gap was reduced on Trunks' 2nd trip must have been due to the time-machine apparently being capable of travelling to that time.. Perhaps it was frozen in time for those 2 ½ years and simply appeared, when time caught up with it???

So eh, guess I don't disagree with what you said afterall

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The manga barely touches the subject, so one could get the impression that it should logically work like you describe.
The guidebooks however established, that only 8 months passed in Trunks' timeline, while 3 years passed in the main timeline, which has been treated as undeniable fact since then in all publications. Thus the gap in years between the two timelines was 17~18, which the 17 years mentioned here is consistent with.

As you say Trunks comes from 17 years into his alternate timeline from when Super takes place.
Since the same gap in time persists even after so many years, it does seem like 1 year in Trunks' timeline = 1 year in the main timeline.
The only reason the gap was reduced on Trunks' 2nd trip must have been due to the time-machine apparently being capable of travelling to that time.. Perhaps it was frozen in time for those 2 ½ years and simply appeared, when time caught up with it???

So eh, guess I don't disagree with what you said afterall

I already mentioned just a few posts above how this doesn't hold up. The first trip Trunks took was 20 years into the past: from AGE 784 to AGE 764. That's not 17 years...

[MozillaVulpix]

I already mentioned just a few posts above how this doesn't hold up. The first trip Trunks took was 20 years into the past: from AGE 784 to AGE 764. That's not 17 years...

*checks*

Oh, you're right. So...uh...I guess if that 8-month thing is right/remembered, then there's a 18-year gap at the end of Cell. Meaning...it's still 7+5+whatever years later for Trunks, but he chooses to go to the past timeline with the a similar gap but...minus 1 year? Either there's a convoluted explanation for this, or no one's really paying attention to their timeline. Probably the latter.

[nato25]

I just thought of something interesting. Super is in a weird place where we kind of still know the fate of everyone even after the whole series will be done. Piccolo dying in the RoF arc basically had zero consequence and emotional attachment because not only did he get wished back so soon but we all knew Piccolo was gonna be fine. The same can not be said for Trunks. I don't think this will happen, but Trunks could die in this arc. You guys think that may happen?

[Cetra]

Actually I am really excited about this saga. If done right, despite inconsistencies, this could probably be one of my most favourites.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Oh, you're right. So...uh...I guess if that 8-month thing is right/remembered, then there's a 18-year gap at the end of Cell. Meaning...it's still 7+5+whatever years later for Trunks, but he chooses to go to the past timeline with the a similar gap but...minus 1 year? Either there's a convoluted explanation for this, or no one's really paying attention to their timeline. Probably the latter.

We don't really know what the last gap was. In AGE 788, Trunks was planning to return to the past and tell everyone he defeated the robits (and Cell just moments prior), but we don't know what AGE he traveled back to. The movies want to imply it's shortly after Cell with the Bojack events, but that hardly matters for the manga alone. So, in the manga, Cell also says his Trunks that he killed was going to do something similar I guess and he ended up traveling to a year before Mecha Freeza even arrived on Earth, buuuuut that wouldn't make much sense for Trunks to tell them about the robit's defeat before he first talked to Goku about them...(Cell had to of hit a button on his way into the machine with his knee or something).

If Trunks travels back to AGE 767 again, shortly after the Cell Games, the gap becomes 21 years between 788 and 767. But, as of right now and until we have more info with the upcoming arc, he could have actually traveled to any point between Cell and before Gohan begins high school during Boo and things would work out since he's apparently not stuck with a fixed gap for his travels. So there's a potential range of 14-21 years.

EDIT: You know, now that I think of it with the above, there's nothing suggesting a fixed gap in the manga anyway. Trunks' first trip was 20 years into the past as mentioned in the prior post, then Cell traveled back one year further into the past (AGE 763) from four years further into the future (AGE 788).

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I just thought of something interesting. Super is in a weird place where we kind of still know the fate of everyone even after the whole series will be done. Piccolo dying in the RoF arc basically had zero consequence and emotional attachment because not only did he get wished back so soon but we all knew Piccolo was gonna be fine. The same can not be said for Trunks. I don't think this will happen, but Trunks could die in this arc. You guys think that may happen?

He could die... only to brought back a few minutes later with the Dragon Balls or time reversal or whatever else they got at their disposal... Honestly, I don't see Trunks or anyone else of importance kicking the bucket in the next arc. If they do die it'll be how it pretty much has always been, not lasting very long or doesn't really matter at all in the end. I could be wrong though. prove me wrong, Toriyama, prove me wrong.

[dbgtFO]

The manga barely touches the subject, so one could get the impression that it should logically work like you describe.
The guidebooks however established, that only 8 months passed in Trunks' timeline, while 3 years passed in the main timeline, which has been treated as undeniable fact since then in all publications. Thus the gap in years between the two timelines was 17~18, which the 17 years mentioned here is consistent with.

As you say Trunks comes from 17 years into his alternate timeline from when Super takes place.
Since the same gap in time persists even after so many years, it does seem like 1 year in Trunks' timeline = 1 year in the main timeline.
The only reason the gap was reduced on Trunks' 2nd trip must have been due to the time-machine apparently being capable of travelling to that time.. Perhaps it was frozen in time for those 2 ½ years and simply appeared, when time caught up with it???

So eh, guess I don't disagree with what you said afterall

I already mentioned just a few posts above how this doesn't hold up. The first trip Trunks took was 20 years into the past: from AGE 784 to AGE 764. That's not 17 years...

Perhaps you could reread my post? It's actually covered in there.

[WhisPL]

Cover DVD Box #3

[JulieYBM]

Gah. I wish these covers would have actual illustrations. They're always so boring.

[Chuquita]

I'm wondering if when it eventually gets a U.S. release if Funi will commission new art for the covers. Wasn't some of their Kai art commissioned?

Also! Anyone have a guess for what they'll reveal in next week's Jump? My hopes are on the character design for Gokû Black.

[WhisPL]

Where did the information that they have something to reveal?