"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Noah]

So Trunks still only has SSJ, looks like he ain't gonna do shit, since he should be leagues weaker than even Gohan. Unless he gets God Ki or something, which if that is the actual case, hopefully everyone will acquire it as well.

I think by the end of the arc, Goku and Vegeta will put Trunks through the ritual just so Trunks can defend himself in his own timeline.

No. No SSGSS bargain sale, please. Just Goku and Vegeta are enough to be Gods, also it would be ridiculous to Mirai Trunks achieve SSGSS when Gohan and the others stay out of the corner.

...Cause seriously, Goku should've gotten his teeth punched out by Gohan after what he did to him in the movie.

Why? What he did?

Good question. Seems like a big plot hole waiting to happen.

And wouldn't at least to Trunks knowledge since Goku is dead, for Gohan to essentially to be the person to go to? Since he was the guy who killed Cell, the strongest person he was last aware of? Man they just love saying fuck Gohan .

Exactly, it's like the staff don't push themselves to remember such details, I mean is that too difficult? I though Toyotaro could help Toriyama with that. It would be interesting that in fact Mirai Trunks search for Gohan to defeat Black Goku and find out that he's not the strongest anymore.

It's not like it's unusual for the series to have plotholes, even the story arc the boy from the future appeared in had it's share of plotholes

Oh really? Like which?

[IGhostUlt]

Once again, looks like Gohan is out of this arc. Meh

[namekiansaiyan]

Anyway, the new arc is called Future Trunks arc, so it would be ridiculous if he comes to 'our" time just to get help about Goku Black and then vanish on the sidelines.

Goku's the MC, The big hero of this series. Him getting the glory over kicking the main villain's ass is just par for the course at this point. So I wouldn't be surprised if Goku tells everyone to sit quietly on the sidelines and let him take care of business.

Hopefully it starts out with Goku fighting 'Black' and then they fuse together to become Black Goku so Goku is gone for a long time.

Once again, looks like Gohan is out of this arc. Meh

That is a good thing, having Goku, Vegeta and Trunks is enough Saiyans.

[B]

Based on the multiple translations, it sounds more and more like Trunks is going to accidentally arrive in Super's History(why else bring up the fact there's only enough fuel for a one-way trip?). I really, really don't want that to happen. Trunks had specific, well thought-out reasons for going back to 767 and killing Freeza and Cold; three years is enough time to give the Dragon Team to sharpen their skills for the upcoming threat, and killing Freeza, an enemy the others just shat their pants over for a hundred chapters, establishes Trunks as legitimate and not lying, even though he can't reveal who he is or his name. If he just winds up in Super by pure happenstance, it's going to reek of executive meddling.

And, speaking of executive meddling, there's only enough fuel for a one-way trip. I'm looking far down the line here, but that would mean Trunks can't go back to his own History or see his "real" mother again. That would mean that the popular, fan-favorite, totally-gonna-sell-lots-of-merch Future Trunks character has to live in the Super AGE forever, and be apart of the story forever. It might be too early to be that cynical about it; the time machine could recharge, or Super's Bulma could build another one. But it suspiciously seems set up so one of the most popular characters has a reason to stick around. I don't go looking to be a downer but they... keep giving off signals that make me feel down. Almost nothing, including Mai and Black, feels like a decision that would benefit the narrative. But I guess we must wait and see.

[Li'l Lemmy]

I'm rather pessimistic for the arc as a whole, but even though I won't be watching I'll still keep my ears open for details regarding what happens with it.

I dunno. I just have so many problems with the premise, right down to the fact that it apparently came from the editorial department. I realize that Super is a cash grab to make money, but at least let the author craft whatever story it's meant to be without outside interference that basically screams "Future Trunks = $$$". Didn't Trunks suffer enough without having to base a whole new arc around yet more suffering?

I'm not a fan of the idea that his reintroduction will probably prevent whatever little chance the present Trunks ever had at development in Super in favor of revisiting the exploitation of the "future bishy coolness" concept. I want to see Trunks and Goten evolve as characters; unless the arc has a surprise in store, it's doubtful that they'll experience any growth or even have a role with Future Trunks around. His part of the story was essentially over and ended in a really great sort of "full circle" way; bringing him back this way seems to disservice the character and also other characters who could benefit from (and are overdue for) development. From my perspective, it is the worst possible concept that could have been devised for this series, kind of like bringing back Freeza.

I guess we'll see. But generally speaking, I'm not really into it so far.


~Da Lemmy

[dbzfan7]

Based on the multiple translations, it sounds more and more like Trunks is going to accidentally arrive in Super's History(why else bring up the fact there's only enough fuel for a one-way trip?). I really, really don't want that to happen. Trunks had specific, well thought-out reasons for going back to 767 and killing Freeza and Cold; three years is enough time to give the Dragon Team to sharpen their skills for the upcoming threat, and killing Freeza, an enemy the others just shat their pants over for a hundred chapters, establishes Trunks as legitimate and not lying, even though he can't reveal who he is or his name. If he just winds up in Super by pure happenstance, it's going to reek of executive meddling.

And, speaking of executive meddling, there's only enough fuel for a one-way trip. I'm looking far down the line here, but that would mean Trunks can't go back to his own History or see his "real" mother again. That would mean that the popular, fan-favorite, totally-gonna-sell-lots-of-merch Future Trunks character has to live in the Super AGE forever, and be apart of the story forever. It might be too early to be that cynical about it; the time machine could recharge, or Super's Bulma could build another one. But it suspiciously seems set up so one of the most popular characters has a reason to stick around. I don't go looking to be a downer but they... keep giving off signals that make me feel down. Almost nothing, including Mai and Black, feels like a decision that would benefit the narrative. But I guess we must wait and see.

Well if it is one way, Future Bulma could have Trunks take blue prints of the time machine to past Bulma. If not that Past Bulma could analyze the time machine and figure out how to refuel/make a new one.

But yes if Future Trunks is really stuck in Super, that'd just cement the burial of current Trunks. They were too disinterested to do anything for that loser present Trunks, that they brought in the future one.

[B]

Well if it is one way, Future Bulma could have Trunks take blue prints of the time machine to past Bulma. If not that Past Bulma could analyze the time machine and figure out how to refuel/make a new one.

The general feel I get from the promotional blurb is that Goku Black attacks Trunks and Bulma before the time machine is ready, leading Trunks to be forced to make a trip or else they'll die. It sounds like an ambush, and on the surface, that seems exiting, but more than that just screams "We need a contrived way to get Trunks to a timeline that he shouldn't have any idea exists or have any reference for."

[dbzfan7]

Well if it is one way, Future Bulma could have Trunks take blue prints of the time machine to past Bulma. If not that Past Bulma could analyze the time machine and figure out how to refuel/make a new one.

The general feel I get from the promotional blurb is that Goku Black attacks Trunks and Bulma before the time machine is ready, leading Trunks to be forced to make a trip or else they'll die. It sounds like an ambush, and on the surface, that seems exiting, but more than that just screams "We need a contrived way to get Trunks to a timeline that he shouldn't have any idea exists or have any reference for."

I do agree with that. But the entire arc sounds exactly like a big fan gushing fan service arc. So really this all makes sense. It sounds like it's meant to be a fun arc more to appease us fans, then possibly tell a coherent story. We might just get both.

[Hellspawn28]

If he just winds up in Super by pure happenstance, it's going to reek of executive meddling.

From the looks of it, Black is from Future Trunks timeline. So it's not like Trunks is coming back in the past to be like "Hi guys. Meet my wife Mai!" than Black shows up. Black sounds like a enemy from the deep future and I look forward to more of his character.

[Big Black Sayian]

Wait if Mai plays a big part does that mean Trunks return to past with Mai or do Goku and Vegeta go to the future with Trunks?

[dbzfan7]

If he just winds up in Super by pure happenstance, it's going to reek of executive meddling.

From the looks of it, Black is from Future Trunks timeline. So it's not like Trunks is coming back in the past to be like "Hi guys. Meet my wife Mai!" than Black shows up. Black sounds like a enemy from the deep future and I look forward to more of his character.

Wasn't that essentially what it was like with Tarble?

[Chuquita]

Wait if Mai plays a big part does that mean Trunks return to past with Mai or do Goku and Vegeta go to the future with Trunks?

Maybe Mai (along with Pilaf and Shu) are the ones partly responsible for Gokû Black? Like how they got roped into serving under King Piccolo once they released him, maybe something similar happened to them with whoever's pulling Gokû Black's strings?

[Kagari]

Once again, looks like Gohan is out of this arc. Meh

I think it's best not to jump to a conclusion after just one episode summary. A universal threat is a good chance for everyone to get involved so we'll just have to wait and see what happens since the series seems to be shifting back to the tone we saw in Z.

[HybridSaiyan]

Pretty obvious this arc has a major influence on Xenoverse.
Black Goku is wearing the same earings as Demigra.
Maybe we will see the others do something as SSJ3 was more than enough to handle him.
Glad the god stuff might be put on hold for now.

[Avok]

A tone shift... Oh man, it's happening?

I can't wait until June 12th. Please Toei, don't dissapoint, please.

[kinisking]

Once again, looks like Gohan is out of this arc. Meh

I think it's best not to jump to a conclusion after just one episode summary. A universal threat is a good chance for everyone to get involved so we'll just have to wait and see what happens since the series seems to be shifting back to the tone we saw in Z.

Yeah this would be the best time for him to rise back into relevance. It would make no sense if he doesn't train and become God level. However I wouldn't even be surprised if they just ignored that fact. This arc is his last chance to show us what his future is

[sailorspazz]

Wait if Mai plays a big part does that mean Trunks return to past with Mai or do Goku and Vegeta go to the future with Trunks?

The description isn't clear about whether she's coming back with him. So for her to have a big role, either she comes with him, or the episodes switch between showing what's happening in the present and what's happening in the future. I think it would be interesting for her to come with him, just for everyone's reactions (imagine the current Pilaf Gang meeting her, and marveling at how she's so much more badass than their Mai).

The naysaying about how no one else will do anything in this arc besides Gokuu and Vegeta is way premature. Just because their names were mentioned as characters who could help, it doesn't mean it'll only be them to the exclusion of everyone else (as I mentioned last night, the way it's phrased implies a longer list that was shortened to just two names for convenience). Granted, given what we've seen in the series, it's still possible it could be just them. But we don't have nearly enough information to say that will definitely happen.

And I'm starting to get used to this blue haired Trunks. We've been seeing images of that for a month now, so it'll be actually kind of jarring if/when his hair turns out purple in the anime

[Lord Beerus]

Pretty obvious this arc has a major influence on Xenoverse.
Black Goku is wearing the same earings as Demigra.

I highly doubt this arc had any influence from Xenoverse. Goku Black's earrings being practically identical to Demigra's earrings aren't enough to discern that. Besides, Demigra earrings are greatly identical to the Potara earrings. And the Potara earnings are greatly similar to that of Zarbon's earrings.

[kinisking]

I will quit this series if at any point during this Future Trunks arc I feel that it will only be Goku and Vegeta doing the fighting. Also if Mai plays a big role compared to others I will also quit because she is a character no one cares about. So I hope that comment is exaggerated.

I seriously doubt you will quit the series

[kinisking]

People overestimate how much effort it'll take to get to goku and vegetas level. Most of their huge power up is getting God ki which can literally be done in 5 minutes with a ritual. Then they'res the fact that gohan goten and both trunks have more potential which means they could get to that level with much less time. Especially if the plot demands it
Edit: I assumed someone had posted by now haha