"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:57 am

Basaku wrote:Who cares where a character originated from? If its inclusion is done well it doesn't matter. Freeza comes from super-core canon and look at ROF, his return/revenge/rehissyfit sucked terribly.
Agreed. It's all about execution. There's reason to distrust this regarding Super, based on Jaco, who is from an exterior source and was just shoved down our throats without telling us why he was there. Wait and see what comes of it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:58 am

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ekrolo2 wrote:.... Is the hair color REALLY such a big deal guys?
YES! How about if we have now a purple haired Gohan for no reason at all? It's called consistency
See, the thing is, the Brief's family hair color is inconsistent throughout the entire anime adaptation. Bulma's hair has gone from green, to a green-blue combo and now pure blue. If we're REALLY gonna be picky bastards over this, then Path to Power is the only one that gets it right. Hell, even Toriyama flip flopped on her hair color for the manga version.

Of all the things, more worthwhile things, to complain about with Super, I really don't think hair color for an already inconsistent family when it comes to that stuff is worth such heated debate over :P
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:59 am

Noah wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:.... Is the hair color REALLY such a big deal guys?
YES! How about if we have now a purple haired Gohan for no reason at all? It's called consistency
Purple haired Gohan would come out of nowhere. Blue haired Trunks doesn't, considering that Bulma's hair is blue and Toriyama always colors Trunks' hair the same as Bulma's in every illustration he does of them together.

Plus, you can always dye your hair :lol:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:00 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
Noah wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:.... Is the hair color REALLY such a big deal guys?
YES! How about if we have now a purple haired Gohan for no reason at all? It's called consistency
See, the thing is, the Brief's family hair color is inconsistent throughout the entire anime adaptation. Bulma's hair has gone from green, to a green-blue combo and now pure blue. If we're REALLY gonna be picky bastards over this, then Path to Power is the only one that gets it right. Hell, even Toriyama flip flopped on her hair color for the manga version.

Of all the things, more worthwhile things, to complain about with Super, I really don't think hair color for an already inconsistent family when it comes to that stuff is worth such heated debate over :P
Did you not see how many people worried about Gohan's hair color in Battle of Gods :lol:.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:01 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Noah wrote:
YES! How about if we have now a purple haired Gohan for no reason at all? It's called consistency
See, the thing is, the Brief's family hair color is inconsistent throughout the entire anime adaptation. Bulma's hair has gone from green, to a green-blue combo and now pure blue. If we're REALLY gonna be picky bastards over this, then Path to Power is the only one that gets it right. Hell, even Toriyama flip flopped on her hair color for the manga version.

Of all the things, more worthwhile things, to complain about with Super, I really don't think hair color for an already inconsistent family when it comes to that stuff is worth such heated debate over :P
Did you not see how many people worried about Gohan's hair color in Battle of Gods :lol:.
What's wrong with Gohan's hair in BoG?! O.o
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:02 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Did you not see how many people worried about Gohan's hair color in Battle of Gods :lol:.
What's wrong with Gohan's hair in BoG?! O.o
Because he went Super Saiyan instead of Ultimate in trailers, people went nuts. Then they changed it to Ultimate later.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:02 am

ekrolo2 wrote: What's wrong with Gohan's hair in BoG?! O.o
Mystic Gohan wasn't a thing in the beginning.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:06 am

dbzfan7 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Did you not see how many people worried about Gohan's hair color in Battle of Gods :lol:.
What's wrong with Gohan's hair in BoG?! O.o
Because he went Super Saiyan instead of Ultimate in trailers, people went nuts. Then they changed it to Ultimate later.
Oh that. Well, I can somewhat get that when Gohan's Ultimate form should make SS non-existent for him but that got fixed. Bulma's hair has been screwed up since time immemorial lol and I don't see anyone scream bloody murder at it being green-ish in Z when its purple. Or scream bloody murder at Toriyama making it purple when it was originally blue.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:07 am

LightBing wrote:
Basaku wrote:Who cares where a character originated from? If its inclusion is done well it doesn't matter. Freeza comes from super-core canon and look at ROF, his return/revenge/rehissyfit sucked terribly.
Agreed. It's all about execution. There's reason to distrust this regarding Super, based on Jaco, who is from an exterior source and was just shoved down our throats without telling us why he was there. Wait and see what comes of it.
What´s exactly wrong about introducing characters from another source (Jaco manga) into another source (DBSuper)?
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:16 am

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
LightBing wrote:
Basaku wrote:Who cares where a character originated from? If its inclusion is done well it doesn't matter. Freeza comes from super-core canon and look at ROF, his return/revenge/rehissyfit sucked terribly.
Agreed. It's all about execution. There's reason to distrust this regarding Super, based on Jaco, who is from an exterior source and was just shoved down our throats without telling us why he was there. Wait and see what comes of it.
What´s exactly wrong about introducing characters from another source (Jaco manga) into another source (DBSuper)?
There's nothing wrong with it, if they explain it. Jaco appeared out of nowhere and we barely got anything telling us how he got such a relationship with Bulma. It's forcing us to read the manga - use the Internet - to know what's going on. To me that's a flaw.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:23 am

Noah wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:.... Is the hair color REALLY such a big deal guys?
YES! How about if we have now a purple haired Gohan for no reason at all? It's called consistency
Super and consistency don't go together.

I'm OK with Trunks having Blue hair but I'd like someone to bring it up and him to say his friend Toriyama said he'd look better with Blue hair so he colored it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Big Black Sayian » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:25 am

What if suddenly kid Trunks had blue hair....
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:29 am

Big Black Saiyan wrote:What suddenly kid Trunks had blue hair....
No...They can't even make him grow up, so they can't change his hair color either. No...
Goku should just ask him why he has blue hair now and if he has became a SSB.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:34 am

LightBing wrote: There's nothing wrong with it, if they explain it. Jaco appeared out of nowhere and we barely got anything telling us how he got such a relationship with Bulma. It's forcing us to read the manga - use the Internet - to know what's going on. To me that's a flaw.
Then what about crossover stories like The Avengers, Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles or any other multimedia story?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:35 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:What suddenly kid Trunks had blue hair....
No...They can't even make him grow up, so they can't change his hair color either. No...
Goku should just ask him why he has blue hair now and if he has became a SSB.
I don't think he is one. He has pupils in his eyes instead of one colour. Maybe he can turn into one, but it sounds like he's just a Super Saiyan still.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by RafaelLeon » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:41 am

I may be jumping on to early conclusions but the fact that Trunks' hair is blue now makes the theory that Bulla is actually his daughter with Mai more plausible.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Big Black Sayian » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:46 am

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:What suddenly kid Trunks had blue hair....
No...They can't even make him grow up, so they can't change his hair color either. No...
Goku should just ask him why he has blue hair now and if he has became a SSB.
To be fair Bulma's hair that same shade of blue now. Even the flashback to hair as a kid with Jaco looks like that.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Pannaliciour » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:50 am

3 things about the hair colour:

1) he does have a girlfriend (Mai) and we all know that a girlfriend can force you doing something.
2) he was escaping from this black thing so maybe a disguise
3) Akira like blue more than purple (maybe sells better)

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:03 pm

Pannaliciour wrote:3 things about the hair colour:

1) he does have a girlfriend (Mai) and we all know that a girlfriend can force you doing something.
2) he was escaping from this black thing so maybe a disguise
3) Akira like blue more than purple (maybe sells better)
I think it's the fourth.

4)Toriyama always wanted Trunks to have the same hair color than Bulma, and forced Toei to change it now.
His BOG character design for Kid Trunks had blue hair too, but Toei changed it. This time Toei probably wanted to fix it too, but he was like "No,no,no, it's really blue!".

I would like a character in-universe ask him about it, but they probably will just play along it and assume he always had blue hair.
But when Kid Trunks and Future Trunks meet it will be awkward, if they don't point this out. Unless of course, Kid Trunks is conveniently out of picture in this arc.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Xeztin » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:06 pm

You can say its a age thing in universe or you can simply accept that its to help him stand apart from kid Trunks. Plus it does suit him better. Those are the only real choices and I doubt it'll be explained in Super.

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