900 Minutes of Uncut Action, DBZ Season 1 Arrives

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:58 pm

I do have to give some credit to FUNimation for acknowledging Chris Sabat's voice change.

Xell · Post by **Xell** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:54 am

>_< Damn, sorry

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:09 am

Xell wrote:Sorry if this has been posted already. But one way you guys could fix this problem is by getting some Raws of the original Japanese Episodes. Taking the audio from this 'Widescreen' set and adding it to the Japanese Episode.

That would be A BOOTLEG!!

Da Rulez

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:34 am

Urg. I bought the set and immediately went to episode 20 to hear Mind Power Ki in the English dub. Suprise suprise, they pulled ANOTHER damn Mezase Tenkaichi. :\ Silencing the whole scene's background music while allowing dialogue to occur, while the Japanese version features the vocal song and the dialogue.

I fear what may happen with Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation once they reach that point. :\

ShadowAssailantX · Post by **ShadowAssailantX** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:16 am

Tsukento wrote:Urg. I bought the set and immediately went to episode 20 to hear Mind Power Ki in the English dub. Suprise suprise, they pulled ANOTHER damn Mezase Tenkaichi. :\ Silencing the whole scene's background music while allowing dialogue to occur, while the Japanese version features the vocal song and the dialogue.

I fear what may happen with Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation once they reach that point. :\

Ugh, with Gohan talking over the First part of that Scene, It Kills the Mood even If they Leave the Insert Song In.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:17 am

nathantheguitarist wrote:That would be A BOOTLEG!!

Da Rulez

Not if you don't sell it. I'm actually planning to do the exact same thing.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:19 am

For yourself, it's quite fine, especially if you bought both corresponding DVD's.

But still, we're not even supposed to talk about it

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:56 am

ShadowAssailantX wrote:Ugh, with Gohan talking over the First part of that Scene, It Kills the Mood even If they Leave the Insert Song In.

I'm really hoping they end up redubbing that whole scene. I mean, even the Mexican dub simply used non-lyrical versions of these removed pieces of BGM. Especially that lil' chorus part that occurs after Piccolo dies.

I still don't understand why the hell we can't get CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA yet get the ending theme and Europe also gets the full Hironobu Kageyama themes for the Budokai titles.

$10 says in a few years, we'll get a super duper, ultra deluxe set that's supposedly as uncut but is still missing something to make it completely unlike the original. FUNi's always finding a way to screw with us.

Oh well, at least I can simply switch audio tracks for the opening and then back with the English dub.

I'm really hoping they do redub the later episodes. A lot of the writing later in the series really blew hardcore. Though it seems unlikely as even with the reworked lines for this printing, there's STILL too much talking for the recap. :s

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:26 am

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Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:00 am

Tsukento wrote:I'm really hoping they do redub the later episodes. A lot of the writing later in the series really blew hardcore. Though it seems unlikely as even with the reworked lines for this printing, there's STILL too much talking for the recap. :s

From what I noticed, they only did one instance of re-redubbing in the dub w/t Japanese music, where if you compare it to the dub w/t broadcast music, it's clearly different. Now I'm not gonna watch the dub w/t broadcast music, but for this instance, I did switch audio tracks to see if FUNi left this in. So it is as follows:

Dub w/t Japanese music - Vegeta: "That Kayoken attack is a nice trick..."
Dub w/t broadcast music - Vegeta: "That Kaioken attack is a nice trick..."

No, I'm not kidding. They actually went to the trouble of re-redubbing this one line, apparently to maintain "continuity". Though from what I can gather, nothing else is touched, though I'm basically assuming that considering "Three years ago, Planet Vegeta was destroyed" and "Raditz is faster than the speed of light" lines aren't bothered with. Do what this info what ya' will.

masenko · Post by **masenko** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:35 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:
Though from what I can gather, nothing else is touched, though I'm basically assuming that considering "Three eyars ago, Planet Vegeta was destroyed" and "Raditz is faster than the speed of light" lines aren't bothered with. Do what this info what ya' will.

Would I be correct in saying that the "Three years ago" plot hole was a mistake that Toriyama made himself in the Manga? My views:

Toriyama was just winging it and hoping the history wouldn't be a big plot point.

It takes the Saiyans a year just to get to Earth, maybe time moves differently for them. So 3 Saiyan years is 20 or so Earth?

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:52 am

Time always was something in Dragonball Z that didn't make sense to me.

Several thousand years of training in Earth is equal to 3 months at King Kai's?

COME ON!

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:57 am

masenko wrote:Would I be correct in saying that the "Three years ago" plot hole was a mistake that Toriyama made himself in the Manga?

You would be wrong. Toriyama never made such an error, hell I'm not sure if even wrote Raditz to say how "long ago" Vegeta was destroyed. I've read Viz's volume 1, nothing like it was said.

PythonMonty504 · Post by **PythonMonty504** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:01 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:
From what I noticed, they only did one instance of re-redubbing in the dub w/t Japanese music, where if you compare it to the dub w/t broadcast music, it's clearly different. Now I'm not gonna watch the dub w/t broadcast music, but for this instance, I did switch audio tracks to see if FUNi left this in. So it is as follows:

Dub w/t Japanese music - Vegeta: "That Kayoken attack is a nice trick..."
Dub w/t broadcast music - Vegeta: "That Kaioken attack is a nice trick..."

No, I'm not kidding. They actually went to the trouble of re-redubbing this one line, apparently to maintain "continuity". Though from what I can gather, nothing else is touched, though I'm basically assuming that considering "Three eyars ago, Planet Vegeta was destroyed" and "Raditz is faster than the speed of light" lines aren't bothered with. Do what this info what ya' will.

Strange how FUNimation would go through that whole trouble for the one pronunciation and let a bunch of cringe-worthy continuity errors go unnoticed.

But, of course, FUNimation has alway been funny that way.

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:01 pm

masenko wrote:Would I be correct in saying that the "Three years ago" plot hole was a mistake that Toriyama made himself in the Manga?

No.

Synapse · Post by **Synapse** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:11 pm

Well, before this thang gets closed, I just wanted one thing clarified:

I don't know if I read this wrong, but the holy church choir music from Piccolo's sacrifice is omitted from the dub, but remains in the original japanese version on the season set?

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:24 pm

Synapse wrote:Well, before this thang gets closed, I just wanted one thing clarified:

I don't know if I read this wrong, but the holy church choir music from Piccolo's sacrifice is omitted from the dub, but remains in the original japanese version on the season set?

Yes, that's the part I was refering to. It was scrapped. When Piccolo heads towards Nappa's blast, you can hear the music in the background, minus the choir. But when Piccolo dies, the whole song is removed.

The fekkin' Mexican dub at least kept the background music of that part itself.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:49 pm

JAPPO wrote:Time always was something in Dragonball Z that didn't make sense to me.

Several thousand years of training in Earth is equal to 3 months at King Kai's?

COME ON!

It's frikkin' Kaio! Lord of all Worlds! Makes a lot of sense to me.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:53 pm

Sebastian (SB) wrote:It's frikkin' Kaio! Lord of all Lords! Makes a lot of sense to me.

What's your problem with saying "King Kai"? It's a valid translation of "Kaio". Anal retentive much?

Unless I misinterpreted what the context of your post. If that's the case, my mistake.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:55 pm

Sebastian (SB) wrote:It's frikkin' Kaio! Lord of all Lords! Makes a lot of sense to me.

Lord of all Lords? What about Dai Kaio, and the Kaioshin? ;p

Anyhow, I agree. If Kami-sama has a room where someone can train for a year while only one day transpires outside, how come it's a stretch that Kaio-sama's planet might have similar properties?

Besides, say it with me: It's. Not. Real.

-Corey