What is your checklist for the new coming arc?

[Lord Beerus]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

[dbzfan7]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

Nah he wants to see the internet BURN . It burned from Vegeta losing to Freeza. It burned from Gohan being useless. It burned from Piccolo sucking. It'll be set a blaze if Gohan sucks some more .

[Doctor.]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

I just want this whole notion that Gohan can only contribute to the story if he's "SUPA POWAFUL, ZE STRONGEST!!!" to go away.

P-Plus, the rage from the Gohan fans when he gets humiliated is pretty funny too.

[namekiansaiyan]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

I just want this whole notion that Gohan can only contribute to the story if he's "SUPA POWAFUL, ZE STRONGEST!!!" to go away.

P-Plus, the rage from the Gohan fans when he gets humiliated is pretty funny too.

Gohan is the new Yamcha in Dragon ball Super.

[Lord Beerus]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

Nah he wants to see the internet BURN . It burned from Vegeta losing to Freeza. It burned from Gohan being useless. It burned from Piccolo sucking. It'll be set a blaze if Gohan sucks some more .

I think what would set a blaze the Dragon Ball fandom is if Future Trunks gets killed off for real in the next arc of Super. That would fucking infuriate a lot of people, myself included.

[dbzfan7]

I think what would set a blaze the Dragon Ball fandom is if Future Trunks gets killed off for real in the next arc of Super. That would fucking infuriate a lot of people, myself included.

It'd just be enough if you Gohan him. Have him unable to really be useful, and have him essentially have Goku and Vegeta do everything for him. That's gonna piss people off if he returns, just to hide in the corner as another useless weak character. I don't remember how popular Future Trunks is, but that could arguably be even worse than Gohan fan rage.

[ekrolo2]

I think what would set a blaze the Dragon Ball fandom is if Future Trunks gets killed off for real in the next arc of Super. That would fucking infuriate a lot of people, myself included.

It'd just be enough if you Gohan him. Have him unable to really be useful, and have him essentially have Goku and Vegeta do everything for him. That's gonna piss people off if he returns, just to hide in the corner as another useless weak character. I don't remember how popular Future Trunks is, but that could arguably be even worse than Gohan fan rage.

I don't get why there already isn't a loud contingent against him since he's pretty much useless throughout the entire Android Arc except this first and last appearance where his much lauded "pragmatism" finally ends something definitvely.

[dbzfan7]

I think what would set a blaze the Dragon Ball fandom is if Future Trunks gets killed off for real in the next arc of Super. That would fucking infuriate a lot of people, myself included.

It'd just be enough if you Gohan him. Have him unable to really be useful, and have him essentially have Goku and Vegeta do everything for him. That's gonna piss people off if he returns, just to hide in the corner as another useless weak character. I don't remember how popular Future Trunks is, but that could arguably be even worse than Gohan fan rage.

I don't get why there already isn't a loud contingent against him since he's pretty much useless throughout the entire Android Arc except this first and last appearance where his much lauded "pragmatism" finally ends something definitvely.

Same reason why for some reason people think Cell saga Gohan is a badass, when he's so far from that it's hilarious. They just remember his cool intro, and his cool conclusion. After that he pretty much sucked at everything. It's like how some Vegeta fans delude themselves into thinking he beat Freeza, when he so clearly failed like Yamcha did against a Saibaman.

[Kanassa]

Another thing I want to happen in the arc is for it to revealed that Black-Goku was only able to ome and reak havoc on Trunk's timeline is because of Trunks messing with the timeline before. Ending the arc with Trunks keeping the Z-Warriors in their own timeline and vowing to never again use the time machine; resigning himself to finihs off Balck on his own.

[sintzu]

Production :

New opening with completely new scenes.
Long fights with great choreography.
Consistently good animation.

Story :

Huge plot twists.
Gohan and Piccolo to be main characters.
Consistent serious tone.
The heroes, planet, ect to be in danger
At least one major change to the status quo.

[B]

- Be entertaining
- Follow the established rules of the series that I personally deem the most important

[pacz360]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

I just want this whole notion that Gohan can only contribute to the story if he's "SUPA POWAFUL, ZE STRONGEST!!!" to go away.

P-Plus, the rage from the Gohan fans when he gets humiliated is pretty funny too.

That notion isn't going to go away unless super proves there more things to him than just power and really there nothing to him honestlybesides its either he's powerful or useless.

[ekrolo2]

I don't get why there already isn't a loud contingent against him since he's pretty much useless throughout the entire Android Arc except this first and last appearance where his much lauded "pragmatism" finally ends something definitvely.

Same reason why for some reason people think Cell saga Gohan is a badass, when he's so far from that it's hilarious. They just remember his cool intro, and his cool conclusion. After that he pretty much sucked at everything. It's like how some Vegeta fans delude themselves into thinking he beat Freeza, when he so clearly failed like Yamcha did against a Saibaman.

Someone should do a story where Trunks' lauded pragmatism actually goes through the entire arc just to show how dumb and forced it all was

[Fresh Prince]

- Super Saiyan God/Blue Gohan or Future Trunks
- Interactions between Future Mai/Future Trunks and their past counterparts, Future Mai and past Pilaf and Shu, Future Trunks and his parents. Future Trunks and Adult Gohan, also the best one...Future Trunks reaction to 18 being married with Krillin
- Serious, Dark storyline
- Black Goku has some minions
- Plot-twists
- Android 17 returns and we see his family
- See a few of the other god of destructions
- Super Saiyan White?
- Black Goku kills Chi-Chi
- If Goku and Vegeta show off in this arc I hope we see Vegito...if not I hope we see Gohan and Future Trunks portara fusion.
all I could think of

[dbzfan7]

I don't get why there already isn't a loud contingent against him since he's pretty much useless throughout the entire Android Arc except this first and last appearance where his much lauded "pragmatism" finally ends something definitvely.

Same reason why for some reason people think Cell saga Gohan is a badass, when he's so far from that it's hilarious. They just remember his cool intro, and his cool conclusion. After that he pretty much sucked at everything. It's like how some Vegeta fans delude themselves into thinking he beat Freeza, when he so clearly failed like Yamcha did against a Saibaman.

Someone should do a story where Trunks' lauded pragmatism actually goes through the entire arc just to show how dumb and forced it all was

I think it worked for the better, but may have gone too far. The reason Trunks never became a Mary Sue for me was because he sucked so bad after his opening. He only won against people he was much stronger than. Kinda like Gohan. His other methods of helping were squashed literally, when Krillin stepped on the cyborg remote. He probably should have been more involved in the climax than he did.

[Kanassa]

I think it worked for the better, but may have gone too far. The reason Trunks never became a Mary Sue for me was because he sucked so bad after his opening. He only won against people he was much stronger than. Kinda like Gohan. His other methods of helping were squashed literally, when Krillin stepped on the cyborg remote. He probably should have been more involved in the climax than he did.

I think he should of at least had the chance to have a rematch with Perfect Cell and put up much more of a fight, maybe be the one to kill off all the Cell Jr while Gohan kicks cell's ass.

[Hit!!]

1.Serious tone, but not necessarily dark. Just serious!! (Kind of like the buu arc, that had a nice mix of comedy and seriousness/tension)
2.Other characters getting the spotlight
3.Goku not acting like a 5 year old all the time
4.Goku not acting like a fucking retard all the time
5.Good and consistent animation
6.Trunks interacting with Future Trunks
7.An explanation as to why Future Trunks has blue hair now and a more messy hairstyle
8.Gohan getting OP as FVCK!!
9.Piccolo having a huge power boost
10.New opening
11.New ending
12.Long story arc
13.Black Goku not being the main threat
14.Black Goku being Goku, not a clone or possesed. I want him to be Kakarotto, the version of Goku that never hit his head while a baby.
15.Plot twists
16.Some plot holes
17.complicated plot
18.NEW CHARACTERS
19.Hit, Cabba and Champa being involved.
20.Beerus, Whis and Vados, Omni King and his escorts being involved
21.Epic and tough fights
22.a lot of character development

Thats basically it, I really hope we're in for a rollercoaster ride with this arc.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I'm against the inclusion of video-game only characters like Towa, Mira, and Demigra. Make some new characters instead.

[kinisking]

- Gohan continues to be useless, fighting-wise.

I assume you're not a fan of Gohan, right?

I just want this whole notion that Gohan can only contribute to the story if he's "SUPA POWAFUL, ZE STRONGEST!!!" to go away.

P-Plus, the rage from the Gohan fans when he gets humiliated is pretty funny too.

That notion exists because it's true. He doesn't have to be the strongest but he doesn't really contribute to the story if he's not strong. Same with every character outside of bulma. This is a fighting show after all. Strength is important. Why do you think pretty much everyone besides for Vegeta and goku have been transformed into background ornaments that just watch fights?

He only won against people he was much stronger than. Kinda like Gohan.

And pretty much every character on the show outside of goku

[mawilex]

- Black / Goku Black not being the only enemy the Dragon Team will face off against, that is if he's the main villain of the arc to begin with. The only way to make characters other than the over-used and over-powered Goku & Vegeta relevant is to pair them against some sort of minions of the main villain, something along the lines of Nappa, Dodoria, Zabon, the Ginyu Force, etc.

- Something I'm pretty sure is not going to happen: Goku not being able to fight against Goku Black, because... reasons... I don't know, just make up an excuse for Goku not to fight Goku Black, like "one cannot defeat or fight against oneself's Black counter-part" or some shit like that. I think it would be interesting.

- No more Saiyan-related lore, or else this arc I shall deplore. Please Super, new horizons you should explore, because Saiyans I can take no more. Makaioshins, new gods and new Universes you can go for, this is what people are looking for. So you better close that Saiyan door, if you don't want people to fucking roar... or snore.

- Some comic-relief here and there, like Jaco complaining about time-travel stuff. I don't want this arc to be 100% "dark".

- Make freaking Gohan relevant! There is most certainly no conference this time around to keep him away from the rest of the cast and no job to keep him busy; he did turn down his job-offer himself, so he should be "free" now. "Gohan does not like to fight", bullshit! People tend to forget that Gohan's fight against Cell and 16's last words made him realize that fighting for the sake of justice is not a bad thing, that was the whole point of that fight. If he didn't like fighting (and I'm not saying he loves to fight as much as his father does either), he wouldn't have "gone to the trouble" of wearing a lame disguise to rid Satan City from it's evil-doers, and wouldn't have bothered to fight against Dabra and Majin / Super Buu. Maybe he lacks motivation to train or doesn't have time for that because of his studies, as he's more devoted to that than fighting, which, again, does not necessarily mean he hates fighting (heck, he freaking submitted a notice of absence from school so that he can prepare for the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai), but after the events of Resurrection 'F', he realized that neglecting his training could cost his wife's and daughter's lifes, so now there is no reason for him to not train at all or to be cast away, well at least that's what I think. And I'm not asking for Gohan to be the hero of the arc or to get a significant power-boost, just make him defeat a minion (a major minion :p), having somewhat of a major role (something like in the Saiyan saga), or make use of his oh-so-smart brain of his for something, "that's it".
Also, what about Goten and Trunks? What are they doing with their life? Are they even attending school? Seems like they are just goofing around all the time. At least with Gohan and the others we know what they're doing when they are not around. And I thought that them at least were motivated to train and become stronger, but it certainly does not appear so anymore.
What a waste of good goddamn characters, pff...

- Make use of the non-fighting characters. Like for example if Goku & co. will need to use the Super Dragon Balls again, make Bulma (who has the Super Dragon Radar), Kibito (who can use his Instant Transmission to move from planet to planet easily) and Whis - yeah, I consider him a non-fighting character for the time-being (who, I assume, can transport the Super Dragon Balls like Vados), to be the ones who go look for them. Make Jaco and the Galactic Patrol have some sort of involvment with all the time-travel stuff. Also, I'm really looking forward to seeing Future Mai's role in this arc, because major female characters are very much needed in this series.

- A good and long build-up before we get to the final fight / - A long arc.

- New BGMs. I'm okay with the Opening song staying the same though.

- Consistent art / animation, which is most probably not going to happen, as always... Or maybe my "standards" are a bit too high art / animation-wise? Maybe I'm asking too much from poor lazy-ass Toei Rush-Production-Animation? I'm hoping for this arc to be on the same level of episode 1, 2, 13, 16, 22, 36 and 44 in terms of visual quality. More Shimanuki, and no more Tate, please, this guy is the synonym of "off-model" when he is working under this kind of bad cicumstances. Maybe he focuses more on the animation, and sure, the animation is fluid and all, but... I don't know, it just doesn't feel "Dragon Ball-ish" to me. His work is nowadays better-suited with One Piece's style, in my opinion.

- That after this arc ends, people are finally going to stop coming up with far-fetched theories à-là Ozatto, and stop expecting to see Dragon Ball video-games cross-overs, because that's never going to happen... right? Please don't tell me Demigra will be a thing in Super. I've never played Xenoverse or Online, so I don't know much about his character, but my god he is so ugly! What a herrendous design!

(Jeez, I've never been this negative and pessimistic in my life. lol)