The reality is, Beerus was trying his best while in the costume. That wasn't his 100% power, but he was 100% serious.
He can be as serious as he likes but if he's only using a certain percentage of his power that is enough to fight evenly with Base Goku then that's kind of all there is to it.
I do understand it, but it's a meaningless statement. It's not informative enough. It's like saying Goku is Yamcha+, or saying that Barack Obama is at least as tall as Tyrion Lannister, a dwarf.
No it's not like that at all. Base Goku's power was completely up in the air, you had people thinking he was weaker than Buu or a SSJ2 to people who thought he was as strong as Super Saiyan God.
Considering how easy Beerus beat SSJ3 and Base Goku took an unrestrained hit and then Final Form Frieza having to be stronger than Buu and Goku being stronger than that then he was at least as strong as a SSJ3.
A lot of people didn't think that the Mystic Gohan that Beerus beat was the same Mystic Gohan from the Buu saga. Now we know they're much much stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks and would be stronger than Mystic Gohan because he wasn't that much stronger than Gotenks. Now we know he's at least as strong as Mystic Gohan. So he is Mystic Gohan+.
Why don't you just say around SSG Goku level? You said you agreed with it earlier.
That's what I think now but it is not a fact that he is otherwise there still wouldn't be people saying he wasn't as strong as SSJG because Gotenks was able to withstand several hits.
He might be that strong but he might not be that strong. What we could all agree is that he is stronger than Mystic Gohan though.
First, a x1.5 difference isn't much of a difference at all. Second, wtf is SSJ3 tier if you can't decide between referring to SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks?
Ehhh it's a notable difference, it'd be more than enough for Base Goku to easily smash SSJ3 Goku. I wasn't over thinking what SSJ3 level was, they're pretty broad. The Super Saiyan Goku that beat Frieza and the one who fought Cell is pretty much all Super Saiyan level and that's broad.
And of course I can quote a post 2 months ago. I am addressing your base = SSJ3 tier theory (but I don't think even you yourself know what SSJ3 tier means lol) that has been proven to be completely wrong and destroyed.
But what's the purpose? You're quoting a post from before we knew Base Goku was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, before we knew that Base Goku could put up a good fight against Beerus. There's no use saying that it happened in the movie because Super isn't the movie and Base Goku never fought Beerus in the BoG arc.
This was also before the 6/10/15 scale was thrown out and it was seemingly impossible for Super Saiyan Goku to be 50x stronger and still fit in this scale.
Now of course we know differently.
Explain why he didn't go SSJ for Final Form Frieza and Hit.
Because against Frieza he said "No tricks, no reserves" and him going Super Saiyan while hiding the fact he can actually go Super Saiyan Blue would be doing the opposite of what he said.
Agaisnt Hit he didn't want to transform because like he said it burns a lot of his stamina and he was trying to buy time to think of something. When he did think of something he turned SSJB because that was the form necessary to fight against someone as strong as what Hit was.
