CardCaptor Sakura sequel - what it means for Super?

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CardCaptor Sakura sequel - what it means for Super?

Post by coola » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:33 am

CLAMP recently started publishing sequel to CardCaptoor Sakura manga, and Madhouse is confirmed to be in charge for sequel of anime, my question is, with all these sequels of classic anime, will it hurt Super sales? For me personally, it depends on Toei only, if they keep rushing anmators and writers, and we will get bad animation and writing, Super anime sales will get worse and worse, it all depend with how Sakura will look and on writing, since manga look really good :)
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Post by Sodhi » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:45 am

Honeslty Super is not trying to sell Anime but Merchandise. Anime sales like Blu rays and Dvds are bought by limited people in Japan anyways. It all boils down to merchandise, Dragon ball and one piece merchandise are almost everywhere in japan. Looking at the numbers, dragonball made a lot of money for Bandai and Toei, and with all the licensing coming up, it is sure to make more money overseas. So I would not worry a bit about Dragon ball sales being affected.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:21 am

coola wrote:CLAMP recently started publishing sequel to CardCaptoor Sakura manga, and Madhouse is confirmed to be in charge for sequel of anime, my question is, with all these sequels of classic anime, will it hurt Super sales? For me personally, it depends on Toei only, if they keep rushing anmators and writers, and we will get bad animation and writing, Super anime sales will get worse and worse, it all depend with how Sakura will look and on writing, since manga look really good :)
No, Card Captor Sakura is popular with Otaku. Dragon Ball has a completely different market that it tackles, the lowest common denominator. There's no overlap.
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Post by ChaosLordBrandon » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:48 am

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coola wrote:CLAMP recently started publishing sequel to CardCaptoor Sakura manga, and Madhouse is confirmed to be in charge for sequel of anime, my question is, with all these sequels of classic anime, will it hurt Super sales? For me personally, it depends on Toei only, if they keep rushing anmators and writers, and we will get bad animation and writing, Super anime sales will get worse and worse, it all depend with how Sakura will look and on writing, since manga look really good :)
No, Card Captor Sakura is popular with Otaku. Dragon Ball has a completely different market that it tackles, the lowest common denominator. There's no overlap.
This, Sakura and Dragon Ball have competently different audiences. And merchandise sales is what matters when it comes to shows like Naruto,Dragon Ball and One Piece.

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Post by garfield15 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:32 pm

You need to understand how demographics, the importance of merchandising and sales work. Not to mention Dragon Ball isn't about selling discs but gaining ratings

With that logic, the Sailor Moon reboot should be hurting Super but even you should know that is targeting a different demographic

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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:29 pm

Madhouse? Wow. Then unlike Super, it will probably actually be well animated.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:40 pm

Didn't Madhouse do the original Cardcaptor Sakura?
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So it's not too unlike Toei doing the newest versions of shows they did in the 80's and 90's.

I don't think a sequel done by another company will affect anything in regards to Super because it's not Toei who's making it.
I read the manga for CCS a semi-long while back and saw the show even earlier than that so I'm mostly(?) familiar with it, but I don't see much overlap in audiences. I only got into it because "Hey, this show is in a similar genre to Sailor Moon, but different.".
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Post by ParkerAL » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:56 pm

Dragon Ball and Cardcaptor Sakura share practically nothing in common. One is a macho, battle series with gags, the other a lovey-dovey magical girl card-collecting story. They're fun in their own ways, and deserve their status as classics, but they aren't competitors. Not even close.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:20 pm

From what I remember, CardCaptor Sakura is market to younger girls. The target audience is different since the people watching CardCaptor Sakura are not going to be the same people that is watching Dragon Ball Super.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:46 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:Madhouse? Wow. Then unlike Super, it will probably actually be well animated.
Unlike Super it won't make so much money either, so Toei/Bandai don't care. :lol:
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:50 pm

Sakura has a definite fan base from which it can make back its money. Dragon Ball has mainstream appeal, so the quality won't actually matter.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:54 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:Madhouse? Wow. Then unlike Super, it will probably actually be well animated.
Not everything from Mad House is great. I personally hated the animation in the Wolverine anime. Wolverine just look so awful at times. Mad House can make really good animation, they have done anime with awful writing. Doomed Megalopolis is one of the worst anime that I've ever seen and the animation is very good. Sadly the great anime can't save it from being shit. I would even watch all of the worst episodes of Dragon Ball Super over Doomed Megaloplis.
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Post by raulvalente » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:18 pm

Having CCS as my favorite anime of all time, I am super excited.

But, on topic, CCS is aimed to a very different demographic. I don't think they will hurt each other sales whatsoever. But one thing I think I can say. Dragon Ball super is a pleasant surprise in terms of ratings and revenue. If the return of CCS ends up doing good, it may inspire studios to make sequels to classics. That could be a good thing or a bad thing, it's all about having a good story and good management.

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Post by coola » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:20 pm

Sorry for necroposting, but i had to, such wonderful news, anime sequel, same cast, same director, Madhouse studio :) http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... 18/.109204
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