"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:50 am

sailorspazz wrote:Nice that we're getting a better view of Gokuu Black's outfit. So it looks like he's wearing a dougi similar to what regular Gokuu would wear, only in dark gray color. And the single Potara adds intrigue, making it seem more likely that fusion will be involved somehow.
From what we can see, it's most akin to the "F" dogi with a long sleeve undershirt, in addition to the earring, as the design has the "skirt" visible.

Which makes me more sad that we're back to the BoG dogi for Goku and Vegeta, as Goku Black feels a little less opposite now.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:52 am

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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's not a Goku staple technique, but it's not like he hasn't used it before. He'll the ki barrages were all over the Golden Freeza material in Super.
You are right actually, but that's not the only thing, the shadow looked like vegeta to me ( maybe I am wrong here ), and then there is also a wolf in the skies, could be signifying yamcha, I don't remember any other character having such a attack or skill..
Then there is the poster which kind of implies mai and trunks are surrounded..

You also have the official word saying goku and vegeta find themselves in many tough battles, can't just be goku black
and surely it can't just be Goku and Vegeta doing all the fighting. I have allways though Goku is not the only one either.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sonicjamareiz » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:05 am

I might be wrong but I thought the word says Goku and the gang.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sailorspazz » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:11 am

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sailorspazz wrote:Nice that we're getting a better view of Gokuu Black's outfit. So it looks like he's wearing a dougi similar to what regular Gokuu would wear, only in dark gray color. And the single Potara adds intrigue, making it seem more likely that fusion will be involved somehow.
From what we can see, it's most akin to the "F" dogi with a long sleeve undershirt, in addition to the earring, as the design has the "skirt" visible.

Which makes me more sad that we're back to the BoG dogi for Goku and Vegeta, as Goku Black feels a little less opposite now.
Yeah, I did think it looked fairly similar to his Resurrection F dougi. And I agree that going back to the old outfits at this point seems pretty pointless (not to mention boring). We saw, what, one episode with Vegeta in casual clothes, and every time since he's been wearing one of his two armor outfits (even when he's, like, just hanging out in his house!)

Would rather they kept the F outfits, since they're still new enough at this point as to not have overstayed their welcome, as opposed to outfits we've seen for the past 20 years. Maybe they had an issue with them being strongly associated with Whis and all that, since he put his signature on them, but...you know, they could just erase that symbol? But maybe since the arc involves the Future Trunks who was around during the Cell arc, they wanted to have their outfits match what they were wearing when he was around the first time...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:21 am

Sonicjamareiz wrote:
Grimlock wrote:Goku Black's outfit. And I post a new image on Dragon Ball Heroes topic, check it out there!

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It looks a bit too normal if you ask me
Oh wow that does look a lot like his F arc dougi shirt. :shock:
Only with a Vegeta-esque outfit underneath.

I really do miss their new outfits.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:32 am

With him only wearing one earring we can at least assume he has not fused with somebody. But with only one earring we could still guess he will.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by alakazam^ » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:02 am

As per Herms' tweet, Toriyama became involved in the production of this arc in August 2015 and finished the story in February. And this article calls him "Black Goku"

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:55 am

alakazam^ wrote:As per Herms' tweet, Toriyama became involved in the production of this arc in August 2015 and finished the story in February. And this article calls him "Black Goku"
Hopefully that 6/7 months produces a good story with some length because if not then what took him so long.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Alruneia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:57 am

Dragon Ball Heroes got to this arc quick. I didn't think they were done with the tournament yet. ...Are they, even?
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So Goku-Black only has one earring? ...where's the other one? Did he lose it? Is it in his pocket, ready for him to force it on someone to fuse, maybe? I can't wait to find out more about this! We haven't even gotten to the NewType stuff yet! unless I missed it
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by alakazam^ » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:03 am

Alruneia wrote:Dragon Ball Heroes got to this arc quick. I didn't think they were done with the tournament yet. ...Are they, even?
They are. All the fighters, Champa and Vados are already available.

Goku Black's outfit reminds me of Great Saiyaman's.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:04 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:Hopefully that 6/7 months produces a good story with some length because if not then what took him so long.
Maybe he struggled to write the script because he didn't actually want to continue working on Super after being disappointed in the quality of the series? After all, the staff had to talk him into staying on and gave him suggestions on what to do next.
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Alruneia wrote:Dragon Ball Heroes got to this arc quick. I didn't think they were done with the tournament yet. ...Are they, even?
They are. All the fighters, Champa and Vados are already available.
They wrapped up the "story" with the currently released set. Though there are still character forms missing (Frost's Assault Form, Cabba's Base Form [that's not a promo], and SSGSS Kaio-ken Goku).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Alruneia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:10 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:
Alruneia wrote:Dragon Ball Heroes got to this arc quick. I didn't think they were done with the tournament yet. ...Are they, even?
They are. All the fighters, Champa and Vados are already available.
They wrapped up the "story" with the currently released set. Though there are still character forms missing (Frost's Assault Form, Cabba's Base Form [that's not a promo], and SSGSS Kaio-ken Goku).
I guess I'm not as updated on Dragon Ball Heroes as I thought. Thanks for letting me know.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by alakazam^ » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:16 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Maybe he struggled to write the script because he didn't actually want to continue working on Super after being disappointed in the quality of the series? After all, the staff had to talk him into staying on and gave him suggestions on what to do next.
I don't think that's likely because his interviews, when talking about the plot, were mostly positive, they didn't feel like it was a chore to him. It's true we don't know about what he complained but in August we were still in the Kami to Kami retelling, right? Super has come a long way since then. This new timeframe really puts things in perspective, I thought Toriyama had finished writing the Trunks' arc recently (or not even having it finished yet) but he's now potentially writing the arc after that :crazy:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:35 am

alakazam^ wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Maybe he struggled to write the script because he didn't actually want to continue working on Super after being disappointed in the quality of the series? After all, the staff had to talk him into staying on and gave him suggestions on what to do next.
I don't think that's likely because his interviews, when talking about the plot, were mostly positive, they didn't feel like it was a chore to him. It's true we don't know about what he complained but in August we were still in the Kami to Kami retelling, right? Super has come a long way since then. This new timeframe really puts things in perspective, I thought Toriyama had finished writing the Trunks' arc recently (or not even having it finished yet) but he's now potentially writing the arc after that :crazy:
It definitely seems like he is enjoying writing Super and because he introduced the 12 universe tournament he obviously wants to continue. The idea by the staff was probably not detailed and Toriyama probably came up with most of the ideas for the Future Trunks arc and probably thought the idea would fit well into the continuation of the story.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:35 am

I'm just putting it out as a possibility, going off what Kei17 said. Even if he was struggling with the script for such reasons, I doubt he'd comment on it when Super has had enough problems. It's one thing to badmouth the animation of the show you're providing the story and designs for, but another thing entirely to suggest your part in the production maaaaay contribute to the problem this time.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

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alakazam^ wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Maybe he struggled to write the script because he didn't actually want to continue working on Super after being disappointed in the quality of the series? After all, the staff had to talk him into staying on and gave him suggestions on what to do next.
I don't think that's likely because his interviews, when talking about the plot, were mostly positive, they didn't feel like it was a chore to him. It's true we don't know about what he complained but in August we were still in the Kami to Kami retelling, right? Super has come a long way since then. This new timeframe really puts things in perspective, I thought Toriyama had finished writing the Trunks' arc recently (or not even having it finished yet) but he's now potentially writing the arc after that :crazy:
The long writing period can also be to stuff that happens after this arc. For example, Super was made with the first tournament in mind along with the second from Zen-O. They then needed in-between arcs so Toriyama worked on the Future Trunks arc along with the arcs that happened afterwards. It does support people saying that Toriyama had a thick plot and Toriyama said that the reason why the Champa Saga was lighthearted was because of the Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' Sagas.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:09 am

So Nozawa (sp) is a cert to voice Goku B right? Did she voice Tree of Might Goku too?

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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:13 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:So Nozawa (sp) is a cert to voice Goku B right? Did she voice Tree of Might Goku too?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:19 am

If Toriyama worked for 7 months writing the new arc, then that means the greater details than the previous arcs will be in the plots. 25 episodes sound about right, if not more.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:30 am

Guys, Herms tweet says Autumn not August. Pretty sure alakazam^ made an innocent typo. I found it weird, August seemed really early to me.

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