"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[dbzfan7]

Weekly Jump as the series progressed. Around when Cell blew up, Gohan was 1st. Around when Bootenks beat the crap out of Gohan, he wasn't even in the top 5 no more, and fell off in popularity. Then in DBForever I believe he went up again.

Gotenks was more popular than Gohan in weekly jump, as was Trunks and Piccolo as around the Boo arc closing. There is no denying that if Gohan was so popular still, he'd be getting a hell of a lot more screen time and marketing. There's no reason to not do anything with him, if the market would benefit them if he was profitable. Apparently he isn't profitable as they do nothing with him. It's more profitable to show Goten and Trunks than it is him. If he'd bring in more profits and attention than Goten and Trunks, they'd use him more. But Goten and Trunks are worth more than Gohan is, hence a lot more screen time is dedicated to them.

What's dB forever and what was he ranked then? And honestly this surprising to me, I wonder if saiyaman was to blame xD. I still don't think his popularity has anything to do with his relevance in super though. I mean technically he was given around equal ttention in bog, and more in the ROF, and Champ arc. In rof he actually did the fighting and got character development. Goten and trunks just watched until they got murdered. Champa arc he had his own fight scene and was considered to be on the fighting list. Trunks and goten were just audience members in the end (I don't remember if they got any good lines?I'm pretty sure Yamcha was more talkative. ) It's only now that they're getting more screen time (especially trunks). It seems like toriyama simply doesn't want goten, Trunks and Gohan fighting. And in non fighting situations, goten and trunks are going to be easier to write. You can have them having their cool adventures or gags while Gohan would probably just be studying. Thsts why I think their age ( why they haven't grown) and their adventures are the reasons they get more screen time. Also, I'm pretty sure both tori and toei know that Gohan can easily be made into a popular character again if given screen time and power ups. So the fact he isn't being given any seems to be a creative choice

I can't really answer what is a creative choice, and what is a financial choice. According to Kei, the basic's of the current arc were given to Toriyama. So I have no idea what was his idea, and what he had handed to him. All I can figure is that a company wouldn't sacrifice earnings, just so they can have kid appeal. That wouldn't make any sense. Kid appeal is supposed to bring in more money. That's why people do it. If it detracted money from what Gohan could bring, then they'd go with the more profitable option. First priority is make money, while second might be customer satisfaction.

Goten and Trunks always had more of a focus than Gohan in Super. Gohan had about just under their amount of time on screen, but slowly got less and less. It wasn't til the Champa arc where he had none. It's not like he couldn't be a spectator if they wanted him to appear. He was purposely written out. Even in the Pan episode with his own daughter, he gets less time with her than the others.

[FortuneSSJ]

I want the Super Dragon Balls being used to restore his world and revive everyone, he deserves it.

A lot of people deserve to be happy and they still die before getting there.
This series always had problems with consequences because of the Dragon Balls, let his world perish for the sake of that.

[dbzfan7]

I want the Super Dragon Balls being used to restore his world and revive everyone, he deserves it.

A lot of people deserve to be happy and they still die before getting there,
This series always had problem with consequences because of the Dragon Balls. let his world perish for the sake of that.

It'd end the one and only consequence the series actually has still going for it. Hopefully Dragon Balls can't effect other timelines.

[Kagari]

Which means nothing to the joke. Though really popularity wise I wouldn't even be so sure. Especially considering if he was so popular to the market, he'd probably get more screen time instead of being overshadowed by even Goten and Trunks of all people. Heck the reason that's the figure in particular, is because that point in time was iconic. Not because Gohan is really popular now. He was really popular at that point in time, but dropped off according to polls back then. I'd be more surprised if they had a Super or more likely Boo arc figure.

He was first back then but every poll I've seen boo arc onwards (official and non official) has him as 3rd most popular. And popularity doesn't mean anything it Toriyama doesn't want him in the story which is starting to look like the case. You can see toei trying putting a focus on him where they can. For example, if that training scene was filler then it's because he's so popular

First around the closing of the Cell arc and beginning of the Boo arc, and then heavily dropped as the Boo arc went on according to official polls. He then went up again around the 2000's but I don't know where he is now. If he was so popular and marketable, he'd not be getting less screen time than Goten and Trunks, who don't really do anything. I think that shows more than anything else when if he was so popular and marketable, he'd not be completely overshadowed by the kid squad that never grow up, or do anything worth of note. They market Goten and Trunks more than they market him, and for no reason at all.

Super doesn't make much sense when it comes to that so far. He's still consistently getting a lot of new merchandise and video game focus which says that he definitely is plenty popular and marketable.

[FortuneSSJ]

It'd end the one and only consequence the series actually has still going for it. Hopefully Dragon Balls can't effect other timelines.

Revive Planet Vegeta and the entire saiyan race, or revive everyone from Future trunks timeline, would be giving the biggest middle finger to the word consequence.
Those two are the worst case scenarios.

[kinisking]

Weekly Jump as the series progressed. Around when Cell blew up, Gohan was 1st. Around when Bootenks beat the crap out of Gohan, he wasn't even in the top 5 no more, and fell off in popularity. Then in DBForever I believe he went up again.

Gotenks was more popular than Gohan in weekly jump, as was Trunks and Piccolo as around the Boo arc closing. There is no denying that if Gohan was so popular still, he'd be getting a hell of a lot more screen time and marketing. There's no reason to not do anything with him, if the market would benefit them if he was profitable. Apparently he isn't profitable as they do nothing with him. It's more profitable to show Goten and Trunks than it is him. If he'd bring in more profits and attention than Goten and Trunks, they'd use him more. But Goten and Trunks are worth more than Gohan is, hence a lot more screen time is dedicated to them.

What's dB forever and what was he ranked then? And honestly this surprising to me, I wonder if saiyaman was to blame xD. I still don't think his popularity has anything to do with his relevance in super though. I mean technically he was given around equal ttention in bog, and more in the ROF, and Champ arc. In rof he actually did the fighting and got character development. Goten and trunks just watched until they got murdered. Champa arc he had his own fight scene and was considered to be on the fighting list. Trunks and goten were just audience members in the end (I don't remember if they got any good lines?I'm pretty sure Yamcha was more talkative. ) It's only now that they're getting more screen time (especially trunks). It seems like toriyama simply doesn't want goten, Trunks and Gohan fighting. And in non fighting situations, goten and trunks are going to be easier to write. You can have them having their cool adventures or gags while Gohan would probably just be studying. Thsts why I think their age ( why they haven't grown) and their adventures are the reasons they get more screen time. Also, I'm pretty sure both tori and toei know that Gohan can easily be made into a popular character again if given screen time and power ups. So the fact he isn't being given any seems to be a creative choice

I can't really answer what is a creative choice, and what is a financial choice. According to Kei, the basic's of the current arc were given to Toriyama. So I have no idea what was his idea, and what he had handed to him. All I can figure is that a company wouldn't sacrifice earnings, just so they can have kid appeal. That wouldn't make any sense. Kid appeal is supposed to bring in more money. That's why people do it. If it detracted money from what Gohan could bring, then they'd go with the more profitable option. First priority is make money, while second might be customer satisfaction.

Goten and Trunks always had more of a focus than Gohan in Super. Gohan had about just under their amount of time on screen, but slowly got less and less. It wasn't til the Champa arc where he had none. It's not like he couldn't be a spectator if they wanted him to appear. He was purposely written out. Even in the Pan episode with his own daughter, he gets less time with her than the others.

I still don't agree with this because he was much more vital in the ROF arc, and had more quality screen time when he was actually there during the champa arc. He also has his own eyecatch. His prominence in the opening is also greater. He's right there with Vegeta and Goku fighting the soldiers too. I don't think that Pan episode or him not being the part of the audience means anything about popularity . That pan episode was only possible because he had to be gone during the majority of the episode. The champa arc also wasn't unless you think Yamcha is more popular than Gohan. I assume it might have been Toriyama trying to drive home that he's a scholar. Obviously now, they're clear winners in relevance. However, I still don't think it's out of popularity because even in that poll that you referenced Gohan was still more popular than Goten. Kid trunks isn't in the top ten but maybe it's because they put future trunks and him together. Not only that, but the DB forever which is more recent has him as 3rd place. I think it's clear before Super Gohan was more popular so if they gave Goten and trunks more of a focus in the beginning of Super like you said, it's not because of popularity. I'm not arguing that they're more marketable right now though. Like I said, I think they're more marketable now because their lives outside of fighting aren't studying. Showing Gohan studying is less interesting than Goten and trunks gags/adventures even to Gohan fans. So showing them is definitely better and they are worth more than Gohan as long as he isn't a relevant fighter.

[dbzfan7]

Super doesn't make much sense when it comes to that so far. He's still consistently getting a lot of new merchandise and video game focus which says that he definitely is plenty popular and marketable.

Never said he wasn't at all popular, just less so than everyone thinks. The video game focus I don't think is a great argument, cause the whole point of that is to shove every possible thing they can to get buyers. Look at the heroes stuff that was brought in. It's definitely something though.

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I can't really answer what is a creative choice, and what is a financial choice. According to Kei, the basic's of the current arc were given to Toriyama. So I have no idea what was his idea, and what he had handed to him. All I can figure is that a company wouldn't sacrifice earnings, just so they can have kid appeal. That wouldn't make any sense. Kid appeal is supposed to bring in more money. That's why people do it. If it detracted money from what Gohan could bring, then they'd go with the more profitable option. First priority is make money, while second might be customer satisfaction.

Goten and Trunks always had more of a focus than Gohan in Super. Gohan had about just under their amount of time on screen, but slowly got less and less. It wasn't til the Champa arc where he had none. It's not like he couldn't be a spectator if they wanted him to appear. He was purposely written out. Even in the Pan episode with his own daughter, he gets less time with her than the others.

I still don't agree with this because he was much more vital in the ROF arc, and had more quality screen time when he was actually there during the champa arc. He also has his own eyecatch. His prominence in the opening is also greater. He's right there with Vegeta and Goku fighting the soldiers too. I don't think that Pan episode or him not being the part of the audience means anything about popularity . That pan episode was only possible because he had to be gone during the majority of the episode. The champa arc also wasn't unless you think Yamcha is more popular than Gohan. I assume it might have been Toriyama trying to drive home that he's a scholar. Obviously now, they're clear winners in relevance. However, I still don't think it's out of popularity because even in that poll that you referenced Gohan was still more popular than Goten. Kid trunks isn't in the top ten but maybe it's because they put future trunks and him together. Not only that, but the DB forever which is more recent has him as 3rd place. I think it's clear before Super Gohan was more popular so if they gave Goten and trunks more of a focus in the beginning of Super like you said, it's not because of popularity. I'm not arguing that they're more marketable right now though. Like I said, I think they're more marketable now because their lives outside of fighting aren't studying. Showing Gohan studying is less interesting than Goten and trunks gags/adventures even to Gohan fans. So showing them is definitely better and they are worth more than Gohan as long as he isn't a relevant fighter.

But he's not really vital in the F arc. He's not inconsequential though, but the entire first third is so pointless the story acknowledges it, and would survive being cut without any real losses. He had a single episode in the Champa arc, and was written off completely afterwards. There is no reason to write him out of the show, unless they don't want him. Like with the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai he could have been a spectator, but he's not even that. He's literally written off completely. My point with the Pan episode is that they wrote him out to let all the time go to Goku, Piccolo, and the Pilaf gang. They could have had him involved with his own daughter, since we've really only had a single moment of that, but no they wrote him off and for a reason.

I disagree with him being more popular because it makes absolutely no sense from a marketing or profitable stand point. That's why Goku and Vegeta have so much more screen time than everyone else. They're incredibly marketable. There is no reason to throw away money just to have kid appeal. That makes absolutely no sense from a business stand point. If Gohan would bring in more ratings and money, they'd damn well use him more as that would be more profitable. Yet they consistently find ways to take him away from the story. Push him aside.

You don't push aside the popular character and push less popular characters for no reason. That's why I believe Goten and Trunks are not only being kept at their current look, but get more screen time than Gohan. Because they sell more. They're cute and plucky. They're the characters for the kids to get into. Gohan is the adult character in a show for kids. A responsible adult is not very interesting to children. Hence Goku and Vegeta are irresponsible thrill seekers.

[alakazam^]

A lot of people deserve to be happy and they still die before getting there.
This series always had problems with consequences because of the Dragon Balls, let his world perish for the sake of that.

Being happy is inherent to everyone, it's not a goal.

He already had his tragic story, why does he still need those consequences? Who wouldn't like him to have a happy end? It's probably the last time we'll see his world (or him) for story purposes so it wouldn't make a difference.

[dbzfan7]

A lot of people deserve to be happy and they still die before getting there.
This series always had problems with consequences because of the Dragon Balls, let his world perish for the sake of that.

Being happy is inherent to everyone, it's not a goal.

He already had his tragic story, why does he still need those consequences? Who wouldn't like him to have a happy end? It's probably the last time we'll see his world (or him) for story purposes so it wouldn't make a difference.

Personally I'd rather see him fix and make his world better with his own hands. Just like how he did it last time. I'm really tired of the Dragon Balls making everything trivial. Honestly I want to see how the world was before Black came. I want to see what Trunks accomplished without the help of the Dragon Balls.

[fadeddreams5]

If Future Trunks' hair goes unexplained, I'm guessing they do have plans to go to EoZ, and want the other Trunks to appear different.

With that being said, literally all they needed to do to distinguish them without being inconsistent was use Future Trunks' post-RoSAT design...which is how he should look like in the first place.

[kinisking]

But he's not really vital in the F arc. He's not inconsequential though, but the entire first third is so pointless the story acknowledges it, and would survive being cut without any real losses. He had a single episode in the Champa arc, and was written off completely afterwards. There is no reason to write him out of the show, unless they don't want him. Like with the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai he could have been a spectator, but he's not even that. He's literally written off completely. My point with the Pan episode is that they wrote him out to let all the time go to Goku, Piccolo, and the Pilaf gang. They could have had him involved with his own daughter, since we've really only had a single moment of that, but no they wrote him off and for a reason.

I disagree with him being more popular because it makes absolutely no sense from a marketing or profitable stand point. That's why Goku and Vegeta have so much more screen time than everyone else. They're incredibly marketable. There is no reason to throw away money just to have kid appeal. That makes absolutely no sense from a business stand point. If Gohan would bring in more ratings and money, they'd damn well use him more as that would be more profitable. Yet they consistently find ways to take him away from the story. Push him aside.

You don't push aside the popular character and push less popular characters for no reason. That's why I believe Goten and Trunks are not only being kept at their current look, but get more screen time than Gohan. Because they sell more. They're cute and plucky. They're the characters for the kids to get into. Gohan is the adult character in a show for kids. A responsible adult is not very interesting to children. Hence Goku and Vegeta are irresponsible thrill seekers

Maybe we have different definitions of popularity. I whole heartedly believe Gohan has much more fans than goten and trunks which makes him more popular imo. Like i said they're more financially viable because it's easier to write interesting things for them outside of main fights because they have their gags and adventures. Meanwhile, Gohan has studying. However, that doesn't have to do with their actual popularities as characters. If you went around asking people who they like most out of the 3 characters, it'll be Gohan on average.

[dbzfan7]

But he's not really vital in the F arc. He's not inconsequential though, but the entire first third is so pointless the story acknowledges it, and would survive being cut without any real losses. He had a single episode in the Champa arc, and was written off completely afterwards. There is no reason to write him out of the show, unless they don't want him. Like with the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai he could have been a spectator, but he's not even that. He's literally written off completely. My point with the Pan episode is that they wrote him out to let all the time go to Goku, Piccolo, and the Pilaf gang. They could have had him involved with his own daughter, since we've really only had a single moment of that, but no they wrote him off and for a reason.

I disagree with him being more popular because it makes absolutely no sense from a marketing or profitable stand point. That's why Goku and Vegeta have so much more screen time than everyone else. They're incredibly marketable. There is no reason to throw away money just to have kid appeal. That makes absolutely no sense from a business stand point. If Gohan would bring in more ratings and money, they'd damn well use him more as that would be more profitable. Yet they consistently find ways to take him away from the story. Push him aside.

You don't push aside the popular character and push less popular characters for no reason. That's why I believe Goten and Trunks are not only being kept at their current look, but get more screen time than Gohan. Because they sell more. They're cute and plucky. They're the characters for the kids to get into. Gohan is the adult character in a show for kids. A responsible adult is not very interesting to children. Hence Goku and Vegeta are irresponsible thrill seekers

Maybe we have different definitions of popularity. I whole heartedly believe Gohan has much more fans than goten and trunks which makes him more popular imo. Like i said they're more financially viable because it's easier to write interesting things for them outside of main fights because they have their gags and adventures. Meanwhile, Gohan has studying. However, that doesn't have to do with their actual popularities as characters. If you went around asking people who they like most out of the 3 characters, it'll be Gohan on average.

I'd have to see what the Japanese audience thinks. What's popular in the west may not be the case there. I don't know how popular he is currently in japan. If I asked for people here, of course I think Gohan comes out on top of them. In Japan though. No idea. I could make a ton of goofy funny non fighting ideas to make Gohan interesting. It's really not that hard. Heck Gohan isn't even studying anymore. He's actually doing things. Things we don't know, but things. Goten is actually studying, and yet we still see him do things.

[alakazam^]

Personally I'd rather see him fix and make his world better with his own hands. Just like how he did it last time. I'm really tired of the Dragon Balls making everything trivial. Honestly I want to see how the world was before Black came. I want to see what Trunks accomplished without the help of the Dragon Balls.

Last time he had his mother with him. His world is now worse since then and most likely not because he had something to do with it.

It's different arguing Earth shouldn't be spared because they didn't kill Freeza fast enough with arguing Trunks shouldn't have his future fixed just because. Goku died by the virus, that's not his fault. Everyone died from the Artificial Humans, that's not their fault, they couldn't have done anything to prevent that.

And regarding popularity and business, remember that Toriyama isn't a businessman and he isn't writing to make a living.

[dbzfan7]

Personally I'd rather see him fix and make his world better with his own hands. Just like how he did it last time. I'm really tired of the Dragon Balls making everything trivial. Honestly I want to see how the world was before Black came. I want to see what Trunks accomplished without the help of the Dragon Balls.

Last time he had his mother with him. His world is now worse since then and most likely not because he had something to do with it.

It's different arguing Earth shouldn't be spared because they didn't kill Freeza fast enough with arguing Trunks shouldn't have his future fixed just because. Goku died by the virus, that's not his fault. Everyone died from the Artificial Humans, that's not their fault, they couldn't have done anything to prevent that.

And regarding popularity and business, remember that Toriyama isn't a businessman and he isn't writing to make a living.

Fair enough. I just find it more powerful and compelling to have Trunks do everything by hand. It's one of the lessons in GT I really liked. Relying less on the Dragon Balls to solve everything. Trunks world being destroyed means more to me because of all the work it takes to fix it up and make it peaceful. I couldn't give less of a shit about our earth as anything can be insta fixed. So I don't care about anything that happens to it. I'd also wonder why the hell they wouldn't have done such a thing sooner for the future if they could.

I don't really know what's his input, and their input. Kei opened up on some of the background of Super. He was apparently given the basic elements of the new arc. I also don't think toei have no influence on what he writes. Pretty sure they have control, but I can't really say where and what they tamper with.

[kinisking]

But he's not really vital in the F arc. He's not inconsequential though, but the entire first third is so pointless the story acknowledges it, and would survive being cut without any real losses. He had a single episode in the Champa arc, and was written off completely afterwards. There is no reason to write him out of the show, unless they don't want him. Like with the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai he could have been a spectator, but he's not even that. He's literally written off completely. My point with the Pan episode is that they wrote him out to let all the time go to Goku, Piccolo, and the Pilaf gang. They could have had him involved with his own daughter, since we've really only had a single moment of that, but no they wrote him off and for a reason.

I disagree with him being more popular because it makes absolutely no sense from a marketing or profitable stand point. That's why Goku and Vegeta have so much more screen time than everyone else. They're incredibly marketable. There is no reason to throw away money just to have kid appeal. That makes absolutely no sense from a business stand point. If Gohan would bring in more ratings and money, they'd damn well use him more as that would be more profitable. Yet they consistently find ways to take him away from the story. Push him aside.

You don't push aside the popular character and push less popular characters for no reason. That's why I believe Goten and Trunks are not only being kept at their current look, but get more screen time than Gohan. Because they sell more. They're cute and plucky. They're the characters for the kids to get into. Gohan is the adult character in a show for kids. A responsible adult is not very interesting to children. Hence Goku and Vegeta are irresponsible thrill seekers

Maybe we have different definitions of popularity. I whole heartedly believe Gohan has much more fans than goten and trunks which makes him more popular imo. Like i said they're more financially viable because it's easier to write interesting things for them outside of main fights because they have their gags and adventures. Meanwhile, Gohan has studying. However, that doesn't have to do with their actual popularities as characters. If you went around asking people who they like most out of the 3 characters, it'll be Gohan on average.

I'd have to see what the Japanese audience thinks. What's popular in the west may not be the case there. I don't know how popular he is currently in japan. If I asked for people here, of course I think Gohan comes out on top of them. In Japan though. No idea. I could make a ton of goofy funny non fighting ideas to make Gohan interesting. It's really not that hard. Heck Gohan isn't even studying anymore. He's actually doing things. Things we don't know, but things. Goten is actually studying, and yet we still see him do things.

Well, dragonball forever was the most recent japanese poll right? Gohan was the most popular then between them and I don't see how anything before Super could have changed that enough for them to change focus. Gohan's not studying. but he is doing work though. Yeah you could get comedic things i guess but it wouldn't be on the same scale as Goten and Trunks. It also would be much harder to write. Yes, Goten is studying but that's not his whole life. He also has his shenanigans with Trunks. As you said, with Gohan he's an adult now. He's only got work and family at this point.

[dbzfan7]

I'd have to see what the Japanese audience thinks. What's popular in the west may not be the case there. I don't know how popular he is currently in japan. If I asked for people here, of course I think Gohan comes out on top of them. In Japan though. No idea. I could make a ton of goofy funny non fighting ideas to make Gohan interesting. It's really not that hard. Heck Gohan isn't even studying anymore. He's actually doing things. Things we don't know, but things. Goten is actually studying, and yet we still see him do things.

Well, dragonball forever was the most recent japanese poll right? Gohan was the most popular then between them and I don't see how anything before Super could have changed that enough for them to change focus. Gohan's not studying. but he is doing work though. Yeah you could get comedic things i guess but it wouldn't be on the same scale as Goten and Trunks. It also would be much harder to write. Yes, Goten is studying but that's not his whole life. He also has his shenanigans with Trunks. As you said, with Gohan he's an adult now. He's only got work and family at this point.

I can't really say. I'm just going by what's presented before me. For all intents and purposes, Gohan's life is boring. Boring to the audience the show is targeted to. Boring leads to less popular I'd say. Perhaps in another role he'd be more popular, but his current one is unpopular and uninteresting to the audience. Kids don't care about his career. They don't care about his family. They want to see action, adventure, comedy. I'm pretty sure a current poll with the audience would lead to a pretty unpopular vote for Gohan. As we saw last time with the ongoing serialization, that's what happened over the course of the Boo arc. I heavily disagree it'd be really much harder to write, as they don't really write anything for Goten and Trunks. It's always the same basic idea.

In a new poll today. I'm certain Beerus and Whis would top him. Freeza and Piccolo would probably too. I'd argue Hit and Cabba as well. I don't see him taking 3rd place in this day and age. Not with what Supers shown, and not with what he's done. I believe he'd be topped by Goten and Trunks because they're around more. I wouldn't be too shocked if he were more popular than those two still, but confused.

[kinisking]

I'd have to see what the Japanese audience thinks. What's popular in the west may not be the case there. I don't know how popular he is currently in japan. If I asked for people here, of course I think Gohan comes out on top of them. In Japan though. No idea. I could make a ton of goofy funny non fighting ideas to make Gohan interesting. It's really not that hard. Heck Gohan isn't even studying anymore. He's actually doing things. Things we don't know, but things. Goten is actually studying, and yet we still see him do things.

Well, dragonball forever was the most recent japanese poll right? Gohan was the most popular then between them and I don't see how anything before Super could have changed that enough for them to change focus. Gohan's not studying. but he is doing work though. Yeah you could get comedic things i guess but it wouldn't be on the same scale as Goten and Trunks. It also would be much harder to write. Yes, Goten is studying but that's not his whole life. He also has his shenanigans with Trunks. As you said, with Gohan he's an adult now. He's only got work and family at this point.

I can't really say. I'm just going by what's presented before me. For all intents and purposes, Gohan's life is boring. Boring to the audience the show is targeted to. Boring leads to less popular I'd say. Perhaps in another role he'd be more popular, but his current one is unpopular and uninteresting to the audience. Kids don't care about his career. They don't care about his family. They want to see action, adventure, comedy. I'm pretty sure a current poll with the audience would lead to a pretty unpopular vote for Gohan. As we saw last time with the ongoing serialization, that's what happened over the course of the Boo arc. I heavily disagree it'd be really much harder to write, as they don't really write anything for Goten and Trunks. It's always the same basic idea.

In a new poll today. I'm certain Beerus and Whis would top him. Freeza and Piccolo would probably too. I'd argue Hit and Cabba as well. I don't see him taking 3rd place in this day and age. Not with what Supers shown, and not with what he's done. I believe he'd be topped by Goten and Trunks because they're around more. I wouldn't be too shocked if he were more popular than those two still, but confused.

Exactly. His life outside of fighting is pretty boring so that's probably why they don't show case it that often. However, he has fought in super so it's not like that's all the audience has seen of him so that could help him out. If we're talking about current events only, yes all those characters besides for maybe Goten and Trunks would top him. But, people still remember the old Gohan. Even the kids, since Kai had the same time slot as super. That should be more than enough for him to top Goten and Trunks.

[Xeztin]

If Future Trunks' hair goes unexplained, I'm guessing they do have plans to go to EoZ, and want the other Trunks to appear different.

With that being said, literally all they needed to do to distinguish them without being inconsistent was use Future Trunks' post-RoSAT design...which is how he should look like in the first place.

I think the EoZ is kind of already out the window, I just can't see a tourney without Whis and Beerus being in the food stands.

[dbzfan7]

I can't really say. I'm just going by what's presented before me. For all intents and purposes, Gohan's life is boring. Boring to the audience the show is targeted to. Boring leads to less popular I'd say. Perhaps in another role he'd be more popular, but his current one is unpopular and uninteresting to the audience. Kids don't care about his career. They don't care about his family. They want to see action, adventure, comedy. I'm pretty sure a current poll with the audience would lead to a pretty unpopular vote for Gohan. As we saw last time with the ongoing serialization, that's what happened over the course of the Boo arc. I heavily disagree it'd be really much harder to write, as they don't really write anything for Goten and Trunks. It's always the same basic idea.

In a new poll today. I'm certain Beerus and Whis would top him. Freeza and Piccolo would probably too. I'd argue Hit and Cabba as well. I don't see him taking 3rd place in this day and age. Not with what Supers shown, and not with what he's done. I believe he'd be topped by Goten and Trunks because they're around more. I wouldn't be too shocked if he were more popular than those two still, but confused.

Exactly. His life outside of fighting is pretty boring so that's probably why they don't show case it that often. However, he has fought in super so it's not like that's all the audience has seen of him so that could help him out. If we're talking about current events only, yes all those characters would top him. But, people still remember the old Gohan. Even the kids, since Kai had the same time slot as super. That should be more than enough for him to top Goten and Trunks.

Considering how Super builds him up, I don't really think so. Super never really built him up as anything credible. Kids like awesome people. Whether they have personality or not, case and point Broly. Considering he mostly fails and does boring stuff, I don't see that putting him over Goten and Trunks. Maybe the Kai resurgence might help, but I don't know. Gohan's #1 spot dropped over serialization as the Boo arc went on, and I can see that same effect applying to Super as it goes on. A recent poll would be welcome for the Super broadcast.

[FortuneSSJ]

If Future Trunks' hair goes unexplained, I'm guessing they do have plans to go to EoZ, and want the other Trunks to appear different.

Super to go post-EOZ seems more like a miracle now.