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Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:33 am

Obi-Wan wrote:I'm just trying to make a point that maybe Sabat's change in style is preferential and totally unrelated to being a chain smoker.
I can say that smoking a pack a day won't do that to your voice, unless your job involves heavy vocal work. It's seen all the time with singer's, why would voice actor's be no different? Preferential, most likely not, but I'm assuming that it's a combination of both, seeing as how he would have to accustom to whatever his lungs allow him to put out.
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Post by SatoSky » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:35 am

I don't have anything against smoking myself. I just thought of having a little courtesy for some of the younger viewers. Not saying that you don't have any courtesy for them. I just think that a Dragon Ball forum isn't the best place for kids to learn about smoking, and other things that might drive their parents nuts.

::Typed all of that fully aware that there is stuff like that already in the manga and anime::

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Post by Lavender Saiyan » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:37 am

*sob* Farewell "Mondo Cool". Luckily I have the old DVD of that, lol. Anyway, I'm glad that the inconsistency's in the early voices are going to be fixed. Good decision on FUNi's part.
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Post by Deus ex Machina » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:03 am

I wonder if Funimation plans on doing any re-dubbing and hopefully re-writing for the Trunks saga. Not only because Eric Vale's Trunks voice has changed, but because the back and forth banter between Trunks and Freeza was so damn awful.

On the other hand I did like Cold's voice, despite deviating from the original Japanese. I hope they keep that intact.

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Post by Mike JD Silva » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:26 am

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Obi-Wan wrote:I'm just trying to make a point that maybe Sabat's change in style is preferential and totally unrelated to being a chain smoker.
I can say that smoking a pack a day won't do that to your voice, unless your job involves heavy vocal work. It's seen all the time with singer's, why would voice actor's be no different? Preferential, most likely not, but I'm assuming that it's a combination of both, seeing as how he would have to accustom to whatever his lungs allow him to put out.
If smoking really is the cause of this, we would have heard it in his other roles, not just Vegeta. I do not believe this to be the case at all. He's had these roles for 7 and a half years now, with each episode going by gaining more experience. He 'evolved', for lack of a better word, into his current Vegeta voice in Season 5.

Same with his Piccolo, which is where I can remember everyone mentioning the smoking problems with this voice. He didn't get it into smoothing it out until extremely late season 4. That type of voice has evolved not just for Piccolo, but he used a softer version of that for Raizen in Yu Yu Hakusho as well has Armstrong in Full Metal Alchemist.
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Post by Super Sonic » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:30 am

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Do we even wanna try bringing in Andy Chandler's "I'm a smoooth narrating voice with only one emotional tone, on the next GEEE TEEE" into this?
:shock: I thought they were all done by the same guy! >.<
Interestingly enough, DB, Z, and GT all had different narrators. The same was for Ocean DB and Z around 10 years ago. THough I thought I heard that Mr. Sabat did the narration for GT?

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Post by Obi-Wan » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:18 am

Deus ex Machina wrote:Not only because Eric Vale's Trunks voice has changed, but because the back and forth banter between Trunks and Freeza was so damn awful.
What's a Goku? :lol:

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Post by Lavender Saiyan » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:50 am

Deus ex Machina wrote:I wonder if Funimation plans on doing any re-dubbing and hopefully re-writing for the Trunks saga. Not only because Eric Vale's Trunks voice has changed, but because the back and forth banter between Trunks and Freeza was so damn awful.
I hope not. Those episodes are some of my favorites. I loved the lines, I'd miss them too much.
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Post by Duo » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:34 am

Scenes containing Future Trunsk are some of the few I might consider watching in dub, so hopefully they will re-record Eric for his early episodes. He sounds pretty bad, going back and listening to it, but ended up being probably the best suited and best performing voice of the entire series.

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Post by Lavender Saiyan » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:15 am

I wouldn't mind if they were to re-dub Trunks first few episodes. I just don't want the diolauge changed.
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Post by Conan the SSJ » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:11 am

Lavender Saiyan wrote:I wouldn't mind if they were to re-dub Trunks first few episodes. I just don't want the diolauge changed.
Haven't you read what I've been saying? FUNi's leaving the dub w/t broadcast music track alone, as in no dialogue alterations like the dub w/t Japanese music. Proof of that is comparing Vegeta's "Kaioken" pronunciation after Goku uses it against him for the first time in season 1. Don't worry, your inconsistencies and corny writing will still be there. I know this was worrying Chuquita too, but if season 1's any indication, you two still get what ya' want. :wink:
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Post by Duo » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:28 pm

Lavender Saiyan wrote:I wouldn't mind if they were to re-dub Trunks first few episodes. I just don't want the diolauge changed.
I would hope to have them somewhat attempt to try and make it remotely resemble the original script, at least for his first episode appearance. The Japanese version is utterly BAMF and the Dub is...scripted by a writer for the old 60's Batman cartoon.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:20 pm

Duo wrote:I would hope to have them somewhat attempt to try and make it remotely resemble the original script, at least for his first episode appearance. The Japanese version is utterly BAMF and the Dub is...scripted by a writer for the old 60's Batman cartoon.
I think they should redub the whole thing in l33t.

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Post by Lavender Saiyan » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:53 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:
Lavender Saiyan wrote:I wouldn't mind if they were to re-dub Trunks first few episodes. I just don't want the diolauge changed.
Haven't you read what I've been saying? FUNi's leaving the dub w/t broadcast music track alone, as in no dialogue alterations like the dub w/t Japanese music. Proof of that is comparing Vegeta's "Kaioken" pronunciation after Goku uses it against him for the first time in season 1. Don't worry, your inconsistencies and corny writing will still be there. I know this was worrying Chuquita too, but if season 1's any indication, you two still get what ya' want. :wink:
Thing is, if they're re-recording certain voices. Like Sabat trying to sound like Drummond, then since they;re changing the voice anyway, they could fix lines.
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Post by Super Sonic » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:50 pm

It's my opinion that although it was nice for the redubbed first two seasons, you shouldn't always try to go back and do the things over. Kind of loses appeal of the property. Kind of how I don't think anyone would want World Events to redub Voltron, making it closer to Go Lion.

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Post by TheMajinRedComet » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:43 pm

yah I want them to stop redubing soon after trunks, but frieza saga needs it bad.
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Post by Lavender Saiyan » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:03 am

Ya, I'd agree with that. Schemmel didn't get into his character until half way through his fight with Freeza.
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Post by PythonMonty504 » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:24 am

TheMajinRedComet wrote:yah I want them to stop redubing soon after trunks, but Freeza saga needs it bad.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if FUNi ends up re-dubbing Season 3 entirely.

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Post by Undercooked Sausage » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:17 pm

Yeah they should re-dub the first season of the simpsons while they're at it.

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Post by Casual Matt » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:46 pm

Undercooked Sausage wrote:Yeah they should re-dub the first season of the simpsons while they're at it.
It's really not fair to make that comparrison. The Simpsons started from Season One and went onward. Just from the point of view of the Uncut FUNimation dub, DBZ started with Season Three, and did Seasons 1 and 2 after the end of the series.

All the progressive changes of their voices past Season 3 would result in big differences in the voices from Season 2 to 3 instead of a gradual change.

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