"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ekrolo2]

No, he deserves a happy ending.

He kind of got it until Super

Xenoverse did a pretty good job of giving him more adventures without laying waste to his planet, just the entire timeline.

[Avok]

Basically something like this?
Black Goku+The Kai in the OP visual=

Holy shit that looks good

Make it happein Toei.

[sintzu]

No, he deserves a happy ending.

He does but reversing everything he went though isn't the way to do it cause the tragic events he went through are the reason he is who he is.

Reversing that would be like bringing Batman's parents back to life.

[FortuneSSJ]

.Black Goten-
Black Goku turn out to be Black Goten would be a neat idea. Black Goten vs Future Trunks, I love it.
Black "Goku" could be just a way to throw us off and not ruin the surprise. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.

[ryou766]

.Black Goten-
Black Goku turn out to be Black Goten would be a neat idea. Black Goten vs Future Trunks, I love it.
Black "Goku" could be just a way to throw us off and not ruin the surprise. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.

How could that concept even come into fruition?

[Kuririn Fan]

No, he deserves a happy ending.

He does but reversing everything he went though isn't the way to do it cause the tragic events he went through are the reason he is who he is.

Reversing that would be like bringing Batman's parents back to life.

Poor guy deserves it, goddammit! This is Dragon Ball! Batman doesn't have Super Dragon Balls!

[FortuneSSJ]

How could that concept even come to fruition?

The same way Black Goku came.
I doubt he's originally from Trunks Timeline, because he will follow Future Trunks and appear in the main timeline. How he does that?! I don't know, let them explain.

[ryou766]

How could that concept even come to fruition?

The same way Black Goku came.
I doubt he's originally from Trunks Timeline, because he will follow Future Trunks and appear in the main timeline. How he does that?! I don't know, let them explain.

I doubt this is Goten.

Him being that Kaioshin shown in the opening? More than likely.

[MrBlackFox]

My theory:


In episode 47, Trunks says " that bastard CAN SENSE MY KI NOW ", and in the flashback, we got to see him with his old, purple hair, so... what if he managed to attain god ki ( ssjblue) and he's training some new stadium, trying to control it even in a semi - normal state, similarly to post - ROSAT Goku and Gohan ? Remember, only Gods can sense god / blue ki, and that Kaio in the opening could mean something related to this

OR

Somehow, and for some reason, he got God Ki permanently

This could explain lots of plot holes ( by far ):
he doesn't trasform cause he knows he's weaker than Goku Black, who is SSJ Blue Goku / Vegeta tier ( we know he'll crush those two from synopsis, and this could explain how ) plus, the animators didn't want to spoil us yet

Yup, there's still a plothole : why Trunks stay trasformed even when knocked out in the NEP preview?
So I get back to my SSJ Blue / God permanent ki


So...

IMHO, that Kaioshin got divided by someone / something, giving Black to life, like the Kid Buu - Fat Buu / evil - good split

Later, Black manages to reunite with that Kaio, becoming an even more powerful enemy ( Goku Black SSJ White? Like the one in the fanart posted before )


I also think Mai is alive, cause we get to see, in ep. 48's preview, kid Trunks staring at someone with long, black hair, strongly resembling Future Mai

[Kuririn Fan]

How could that concept even come to fruition?

The same way Black Goku came.
I doubt he's originally from Trunks Timeline, because he will follow Future Trunks and appear in the main timeline. How he does that?! I don't know, let them explain.

No way, Goten stays characterless.

[FortuneSSJ]

I doubt this is Goten.

I doubt he's Goten too. I was just thinking about that option.

[dbzfan7]

I don't really know what's his input, and their input. Kei opened up on some of the background of Super. He was apparently given the basic elements of the new arc. I also don't think toei have no influence on what he writes. Pretty sure they have control, but I can't really say where and what they tamper with.

What did Kei say?

I can't tell you the source because it's insider information, but he surely got turned off and reluctant to keep being involved with Super, so they had to provide him with some basic ideas for the plot of the new Goku Black arc.

[MrBlackFox]

Oh, another hint I caught, though I think someone here could have pointed yet:

Trunks launching ki waves through his sword > teen / adult Goten and Trunks developing their DB Online fighting style in Super's future arcs? Kikoukenjutsu

DB Online 's future is canon, if I recall correctly
Maybe Future Trunks will train them

[Kuririn Fan]

Oh, another hint I caught, though I think someone here could have pointed yet:

Trunks launching ki waves through his sword > teen / adult Goten and Trunks developing their DB Online fighting style in Super's future arcs? Kikoukenjutsu

DB Online 's future is canon, if I recall correctly
Maybe Future Trunks will train them

???
No it's not, it's just another video game.

[sintzu]

Poor guy deserves it, goddammit! This is Dragon Ball! Batman doesn't have Super Dragon Balls!

That didn't stop him from finding a way to bring his son back and taking down darkside and considering he always has a solution for everything, maybe he's who Trunks should've went to for help.

[dblack]

Basically something like this?
Black Goku+The Kai in the OP visual=

I think it's far more likely this would be a master-form of kaioken instead of the new SS4 or SSGSS2. Goku fused with a Kai would be enough explanation for me.

[FortuneSSJ]

It would be really cool if Future Trunks gave his sword to Kid Trunks, in the end of this arc.
With all kid Trunks sword reference scenes leading up to this.

[fadeddreams5]

Didn't Future Trunks' sword get swept away by Black?

[JimmyRustam]

Many people think that the white-haired Kaioshin might be controlling Black Goku, or that he even is he.

But what if the Kaioshin is actually good and just tries to capture Black or so?

Didn't Future Trunks' sword get swept away by Black?

lol, yes.

[Chuquita]

I'm still curious about why Gokû Black has only one earring. If it's not a potara is it something controlling him?

Anxious for the mini summary from Jump later today.