So how is Mai not middle-aged?

MadSaiyantist · Post by **MadSaiyantist** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:36 pm

ryou766 wrote:
Avok wrote:
Faisal Shourov wrote:Mai is pedophile, I can't believe Toriyama is letting it pass such a way. Hopefully he explains Mai's age in next episodes
Do you really think this is Toriyama's doing?
If it wasn't, nevertheless, Toriyama is allowing it.

Wait, is this a serious conversation or is all of this just sarcasm?

ryou766 · Post by **ryou766** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:38 pm

Whatever you interpret it to be, I guess.

Avok · Post by **Avok** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:53 pm

MadSaiyantist wrote: Wait, is this a serious conversation or is all of this just sarcasm?

What's so ridiculous about it?

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:55 pm

So anyways, what do you all think the upcoming episode about Mai is about?

BTW, the title for the aforementioned episode is Ep. 51: Mai' s Feelings, Transcending Time".

Baggie_Saiyan · Post by **Baggie_Saiyan** » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:39 pm

dragonballhero wrote:So anyways, what do you all think the upcoming episode about Mai is about?

BTW, the title for the aforementioned episode is Ep. 51: Mai' s Feelings, Transcending Time".

A fluff episode where Trunks is reminiscing about his times with Mai while the Goku vs Black fight is still going on is my guess and gives Trunks extra strength.

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:02 pm

Well, it appears ep. 51 really will involve F. Trunks explaining to the others how he met F. Mai. What do you all think the explanation will be?

Shinomori · Post by **Shinomori** » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:09 pm

dragonballhero wrote:Well, it appears ep. 51 really will involve F. Trunks explaining to the others how he met F. Mai. What do you all think the explanation will be?

I predict Mai is the leader of the human resistance force against Black. Trunks teamed up with them and somewhere along the way, he and Mai fell in love.

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:15 am

Shinomori wrote:
dragonballhero wrote:Well, it appears ep. 51 really will involve F. Trunks explaining to the others how he met F. Mai. What do you all think the explanation will be?
I predict Mai is the leader of the human resistance force against Black. Trunks teamed up with them and somewhere along the way, he and Mai fell in love.

You know, I TOTALLY see this being the case, if that random human getting blasted by Black I saw at the beginning of the NEP for ep. 51 is of any indication. As a matter of fact, why do I feel like I've seen this or at least heard about this kind of thing (Everything you described about F. Mai and F. Trunks just now) in a movie or even video game before?

ryou766 · Post by **ryou766** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:37 am

Well, seems that multiple posting issue persists.

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:08 pm

ryou766 wrote:Well, seems that multiple posting issue persists.

I think it's fixed now. But seriously though, does anyone think F. Mai will be a part of the main cast now, or...?

sailorspazz · Post by **sailorspazz** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:23 pm

Once they make that trip to the future, it's possible she could join up with everyone to help fight against Black (though I wonder how she'll survive on her own until then...go into hiding so Black doesn't find her?). Though the latest episode title spoilers indicate they'll be headed somewhere else before they do any time traveling...

With this upcoming episode dedicated to explaining Trunks and Mai's history, I can imagine she'll remain pretty important to the story...unless they're just using that backstory as an excuse to make us feel sadder if they kill her off for good

But with the comments from her voice actress, I have a feeling she'll remain relevant throughout this arc (beyond the role of present Mai goofing around).

Grimlock · Post by **Grimlock** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:32 pm

I just hope the next episode explains the title of this thread, along with many other questions that I have. I'm all for an episode dedicated to some explanation, since they will adamantly not tell us anything about age (it's a miraclous they said how much time Trunks traveled to the past now, although we can't forget the "20 years ahead" in Android saga), height and other subjects.

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:11 pm

If the gang goes to Universe 10 before traveling back to Trunks' timeline, I get the feeling things are going to start becoming a complicated mess with little to no explanation on how time travel works in regards to the 12 Universes...

The Champa material wasn't exactly clear on any of this either since Champa himself was popping into main timeline Universe 7 despite Trunks' being the original. But we could at least just guess that Zeno and the 12 Universes were cloned over or whatever and thus there was a Champa in each timeline, negating any problems past, present or future interactions between characters.

We first see Black in Trunk's timeline though. How are the gang going to try and discover his identity from a timeline where he presumably doesn't originate? If the 12 Universes aren't cloned when alternate timelines are created, Universe 10 would presumably be connected with Trunks' timeline, so how will Goku and friends even reach it? If they are cloned, does the main timeline of Universe 10 even have anything to do with Black, especially at this point in history?

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:51 pm

sailorspazz wrote:Once they make that trip to the future, it's possible she could join up with everyone to help fight against Black (though I wonder how she'll survive on her own until then...go into hiding so Black doesn't find her?). Though the latest episode title spoilers indicate they'll be headed somewhere else before they do any time traveling...

With this upcoming episode dedicated to explaining Trunks and Mai's history, I can imagine she'll remain pretty important to the story...unless they're just using that backstory as an excuse to make us feel sadder if they kill her off for good But with the comments from her voice actress, I have a feeling she'll remain relevant throughout this arc (beyond the role of present Mai goofing around).

As I've said about a week or so before the first ep of the Black arc aired, I would think F. Mai would join up with the Dragon Team. Honestly, after all the evidence surrounding her being a major player for this arc, I highly doubt they'd bring her back just so Black can "finish the job" with her, and a the same time, I REALLY hope that's not going to be the case, as it would rally tick me off. Heck, F. Mai is the first female character in Super to take any real action (Not counting Bulma and Vados, As the former is of more the brains of the Dragon Team's operations and the latter is more often than not, a neutral party at best.)

jplaya2023 · Post by **jplaya2023** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:11 am

At could've cleared this up by just having Mai having a baby and naming her mai born the same time as f trunks. She could've explained how the androids wiped out pilaf's gang and she "watched" trunks kill the androids and fell in love with him

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:34 pm

Does else feel just a little..."unsatisfied" with F. Trunks' explanation about F. Mai? Actually, it's not that I hate it, but I wish they'd explain more about their relationship, as well what happened to F. Emperor Pilaf and Future Shu at least.

Mazingerdestro · Post by **Mazingerdestro** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:16 am

Unless, the butterfly effect has a delay and slowly Trunks' timeline is changing due to the changes in the past, Mai is going to be a big plothole.

Personally, I would enjoy if Trunks' changes are slowly altering time and space so Zamasu wants to kill him to protect the universe.
Also that would explain his hair change. The reality is rejecting Trunks because he is an anomaly so his body got older faster.

MonkeyKing16 · Post by **MonkeyKing16** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:04 pm

Alternatively, Mai got turned young by some magical object excluding the Dragonballs. Roshi mentions a phoenix that grants immortality in his first appearance. I don't think its too big a stretch.

dragonballhero · Post by **dragonballhero** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:15 pm

MonkeyKing16 wrote:Alternatively, Mai got turned young by some magical object excluding the Dragonballs. Roshi mentions a phoenix that grants immortality in his first appearance. I don't think its too big a stretch.

According to Turtle, the phoenix died.....from food poisoning.

Seriously though, guys. Why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? This seems more simple than we think: Emperor Pilaf, Shu and Mai used Earth's DBs BEFORE Piccolo and Kami died, turned into kids/infants(?), and grew up normally again from there. I just wonder why everyone's making this seem more complicated than it needs to be...

Khin · Post by **Khin** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:17 pm

So let me explain this one more time. Mai's age is not really a plot hole or something. First of all, nowhere was it stated in Super on how or why Pilaf, Shu, and Mai become young again. But the most likely case is that they wished to become young before Dende became the guardian of Earth, or before Piccolo was killed in the future, since they were surprised when they learned that Shenlong can grant multiple wish (Which indicates that the last time they made a wish, Shenlong can only grant a single wish). So they probably wished for youth on around Age 766 - before the month of May in Age 767, which coincidentally [?] works with Toriyama statement in his "character secrets" page in Daizenshuu 7, were it was stated that Pilaf Gang planned another attempt at world domination but postponed it due to Androids and Cell happenings. They probably wished for youth before they planned those stuffs. The current arc of Super probably takes place on Age 780, so if Pilaf, Shu, and Mai wished for youth on around Age 766; then there would be no problem.

Age 766: Trunk is born | Pilaf, Shu, and Mai wished your youth

Age 780 (Present Timeline): Trunks is around 14 years old. Pilaf, Shu, and Mai are probably also at that age.

Age 797 (Future Trunks' Timeline): Future Trunks is around 31 years old (Physically 33 due to his RoSaT trip). Future Mai is also at that age.

Future Trunks said that Future Mai is around the same age as he is, so it makes perfect sense if Mai wished for youth on around Age 766 - Early 767.

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