"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:52 pm

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What!? You mean they won't appear/be playable in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2?
Yeah, Toriyama said he didn't want them in the game and one of the producers who tried to argue with him about it disappeared the next day so they just agreed to it.
Was there a reason explained as to why Toriyama requested those two characters to disappear?
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:53 pm

Pretty sure hes kidding about Gohan and Piccolo.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:55 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Pretty sure hes kidding about Gohan and Piccolo.
Don't spoil my fun. :evil:
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sintzu wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
What!? You mean they won't appear/be playable in Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2?
Yeah, Toriyama said he didn't want them in the game and one of the producers who tried to argue with him about it disappeared the next day so they just agreed to it.
Was there a reason explained as to why Toriyama requested those two characters to disappear?
He said he just got an internet connection to his house and liked how fans were ranting and complaining about them not being important in Super so he wants to see how they'll react to this.
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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by EXBadguy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:59 pm

sintzu wrote:
EXBadguy wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Yeah, Toriyama said he didn't want them in the game and one of the producers who tried to argue with him about it disappeared the next day so they just agreed to it.
Was there a reason explained as to why Toriyama requested those two characters to disappear?
He said he just got an internet connection to his house and liked how fans were ranting and complaining about them not being important in Super so he wants to see how they'll react to this.
That rotten.... *smh*

Oh well, like I said again, I don't care about them two (and the only versions of Gohan I care about were the Kid and Teen ones), I'll just be busy upgrading my own character, but man, Toriyama, the hell is wrong with you?!
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Post by Grimlock » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:01 pm

Dude, seriously? Like, seriously? I couldn't understand very well what they said so I relied on you... Shit, and here I thought people on Kanzenshuu were cool. :| Damn Vegeta's fanboy.

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Post by SaiyaSith » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:03 pm

Someone probably already said this, but it was confirmed that Toriyama created Mira and Towa during Dragon Ball Online and didn't want to get rid of them. The question was answered in Rhymestyle's interview.

Side note: It was asked if Demigra had any relatives and he laughed and said 'no comment'.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:03 pm

EXBadguy wrote: That rotten.... *smh*

Oh well, like I said again, I don't care about them two (and the only versions of Gohan I care about were the Kid and Teen ones), I'll just be busy upgrading my own character, but man, Toriyama, the hell is wrong with you?!
Dude, he's kidding. :lol:

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Post by sintzu » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:04 pm

EXBadguy wrote: Toriyama, the hell is wrong with you?!
After Super's 34th episode aired the Piccolo fans in Japan tried to burn his house down and ever since Super started the Gohan fans have been throwing eggs at him everyday so he wants pay back.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:05 pm

Grimlock wrote:Dude, seriously? Like, seriously? I couldn't understand very well what they said so I relied on you... Shit, and here I thought people on Kanzenshuu were cool. :| Damn Vegeta's fanboy.
What are you talking about? It's a joke

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Post by EXBadguy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:08 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
EXBadguy wrote: That rotten.... *smh*

Oh well, like I said again, I don't care about them two (and the only versions of Gohan I care about were the Kid and Teen ones), I'll just be busy upgrading my own character, but man, Toriyama, the hell is wrong with you?!
Dude, he's kidding. :lol:
Wait...really?
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Post by sintzu » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:10 pm

EXBadguy wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
EXBadguy wrote: That rotten.... *smh*

Oh well, like I said again, I don't care about them two (and the only versions of Gohan I care about were the Kid and Teen ones), I'll just be busy upgrading my own character, but man, Toriyama, the hell is wrong with you?!
Dude, he's kidding. :lol:
Wait...really?
Why would I be ? don't listen to him.

There's going to be a special edition only for Toriyama that has them in it and he'll be streaming himself playing as them every day.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:11 pm

SaiyaSith wrote:Someone probably already said this, but it was confirmed that Toriyama created Mira and Towa during Dragon Ball Online and didn't want to get rid of them.
I don't quite get how things get so jumbled when the interview is right there, because that last part isn't what he said. Yes, we got confirmation that Toriyama designed Towa and Mira (they won't acknowledge DBO though), but it was only mentioned that the duo are really popular in Japan and used a lot in other games and so Hirano couldn't really kill them by the end of Xenoverse because they are so important.
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Post by EXBadguy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:24 pm

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SaiyaSith wrote:Someone probably already said this, but it was confirmed that Toriyama created Mira and Towa during Dragon Ball Online and didn't want to get rid of them.
I don't quite get how things get so jumbled when the interview is right there, because that last part isn't what he said. Yes, we got confirmation that Toriyama designed Towa and Mira (they won't acknowledge DBO though), but it was only mentioned that the duo are really popular in Japan and used a lot in other games and so Hirano couldn't really kill them by the end of Xenoverse because they are so important.
Wait, so could it mean that Hirano doesn't acknowledge Time Breaker Bardock too. If so, then man that's dumb. The pre-fight dialogue between Mira and Bardock in X1 had a good reference to the DBO storyline. I hope TBB appears, he should, otherwise what was that wormhole for?
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Post by ryou766 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:31 pm

I still wish they didn't discontinue DBO. Should've been released nationally.

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Post by sintzu » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:35 pm

EXBadguy wrote: Wait, so could it mean that Hirano doesn't acknowledge Time Breaker Bardock too. If so, then man that's dumb. The pre-fight dialogue between Mira and Bardock in X1 had a good reference to the DBO storyline. I hope TBB appears, he should, otherwise what was that wormhole for ?
I think they don't want to use all their cards right away so the online part of the story that's being developed in heroes will remain there for the time being while the console games focus on the anime's contents.

The 1st game was mainly focused on the Z anime.

The 2nd game seems like is going to focus on the remaining of it and Z's movies, maybe even GT.

The 3rd game will most likely focus on Super's part of the story.

While that's going on Heroes will have been developing the time patrol/online part of the story for years which means that'll be able to be a full game, a Xenoverse 4.
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Post by SaiyaSith » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:43 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
SaiyaSith wrote:Someone probably already said this, but it was confirmed that Toriyama created Mira and Towa during Dragon Ball Online and didn't want to get rid of them.
I don't quite get how things get so jumbled when the interview is right there, because that last part isn't what he said. Yes, we got confirmation that Toriyama designed Towa and Mira (they won't acknowledge DBO though), but it was only mentioned that the duo are really popular in Japan and used a lot in other games and so Hirano couldn't really kill them by the end of Xenoverse because they are so important.
You're right. I listened to the interview earlier and my memory got jumbled when I saw these tweets...

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Hirano did say though, "They were created by Akira Toriyama". They didn't have to mention DBO because we know that was where they first appeared. At least we got one good question from that interview. lol

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Post by EXBadguy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:46 pm

sintzu wrote: The 2nd game seems like is going to focus on the remaining of it and Z's movies, maybe even GT.
Don't forget the original DB too, as there were posters of it on the website before its opening. I can already see that the final boss of the story could be either Hirudegarn or Omega Shenron, but it's way too soon to speculate something like that.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:52 pm

EXBadguy wrote:Wait, so could it mean that Hirano doesn't acknowledge Time Breaker Bardock too. If so, then man that's dumb. The pre-fight dialogue between Mira and Bardock in X1 had a good reference to the DBO storyline. I hope TBB appears, he should, otherwise what was that wormhole for?
There were a couple of interviews during Xenoverse' promotion where the interviewer knew Towa and Mira were from DBO and the interviewee would reluctantly acknowledge the project's existence after being confronted with it. But in general, the Japanese don't seem to want to admit it was a product. Most of the interviews would only cite them as "now, original characters", so it seems like they rather treat the content as their own recent material.. Afterall, despite Toriyama spending at least 5 years working on it and being a pretty huge endeavour, there's nothing about it at all in the Chozenshuu for the in-universe material or even the product suction (which has Over 9000 meme merchandise for fucks sake).

That said you have no need to worry. Bardock's time as a masked villain was used in Heroes. They can grab him from there without having to admit DBO was ever something they were involved with.
SaiyaSith wrote:You're right. I listened to the interview earlier and my memory got jumbled when I saw these tweets...

Hirano did say though, "They were created by Akira Toriyama". They didn't have to mention DBO because we know that was where they first appeared. At least we got one good question from that interview. lol
So he's kinda spreading his own misinformation by apparently not properly quoting the information correctly from the interview he attended. Okay... lol

WE know, but it's pretty clear they won't willingly admit it. (See above.)
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Post by Zelvin » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:58 pm

EXBadguy wrote:
sintzu wrote: The 2nd game seems like is going to focus on the remaining of it and Z's movies, maybe even GT.
Don't forget the original DB too, as there were posters of it on the website before its opening. I can already see that the final boss of the story could be either Hirudegarn or Omega Shenron, but it's way too soon to speculate something like that.
Except we had the GT DLC for XV1 and Omega was just screwed around with by Demigra's magic. And Hildegarn really isn't much different than Janemba and would then itself be stolen from to make Baby in GT. Just leave GT out of it. We're already getting the other movies with Broly already shoved into XV1. I'd really rather not see XV2 just be the first game, but asking for more money.
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Post by SaiyaSith » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:00 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: WE know, but it's pretty clear they won't willingly admit it. (See above.)
Most likely because it never came out in Japan. It would be kind of dumb to acknowledge it since the majority didn't know about it. Plus they're selling it's reboot, so there's no need to take attention away from Xenoverse for a cool mysterious mmo like DBO. It's a shame, but I have at least a little hope that they'll make Xenoverse into an open world mmo like DBO one day. It would be a dream come true for me. A hub world that's 7x bigger which includes flying and mounts a good step imo.

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