"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[FTW395]

Hmm Vados and Whis were seen kneeling in the manga, but they weren't in the Anime.

[Grimlock]

Wow! I didn't expect Super Saiyan God to return!

But wait, Super Saiyan God is a weaker form than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.

[Sodhi]

But wait, Super Saiyan God is a weaker form than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.

It is weaker, he went from base to ssj to ssg to ssgss. At Least thats what I think.

[ekrolo2]

Where are you guys reading this (PM the link, I know posting them on here is a no-no).

[Khin]

It looks like Goku turned Super Saiyan God again, and then turned Blue. I'd rather prefer the anime version of him turning Kaio-ken to be honest. I didn't like how Champa didn't try to kill his team. I also didn't like the fight that much, at least compared to the anime.

A bit disappointing chapter overall. I'd say the anime got this one better.

[sintzu]

2 things that change everything about what we know :

1- Goku didn't use Kaioken so that whole thing was from Toei.

2- Goku can still use SsjR which means Vegeta might be able to as well.

3- I think that's all he used against Hit which means he's not as strong as we thought.

4- The SsjB Kaioken ×10 Goku vs Beerus might've been for nothing.

OK that's 4 things and we'll probably have more once it's translated.

It looks like Toei are messing up more than the production cause what they did is very different from what we got here which means it's also different from what Toriyama wrote.

I'm so happy that Super has a more accurate manga version and hopefully we won't have to wait long before it's released in the west.

[Sodhi]

2 things that change everything about what we know :
Goku can still use SsjR which means Vegeta might be able to as well.

Vegeta did not do the ritual though.

[ekrolo2]

I eagerly await Herms' translation of this chapter cause I am stumped now that Red God is back.

[sintzu]

2 things that change everything about what we know :
Goku can still use SsjR which means Vegeta might be able to as well.

Vegeta did not do the ritual though.

He can go Ssjb which is a higher ssjg level so why wouldn't he be able to use the lower level ?

[ryou766]

Wait so, Goku didn't use SSJBKK against Hit?

[Xeztin]

Well. That was kinda dumb.

Goku didn't turn Super Saiyan Blue at all. He turned into regular Super Saiyan and went Kaio-ken right away. He also didn't receive any injuries due to Kaio-ken unlike in the anime. So there's no consequences from using it. It also looked very similar to Super Saiyan God. Which makes me think Toriyama didn't give any design for the Kaio-ken and let Toyotaro and TOEI to design it themselves. Another thing i didn't like is that Champa didn't try to kill his team unlike in the anime.

A bit disappointing chapter overall. I'd say the anime got this one better.

EDIT Read it again. And it looks like he turned Super Saiyan God again, and then turned Blue. Well i guess that's the only thing i would say Toyataro got better.

Actually it looks like he went Super Saiyan, SSG, and SSJB out of no where while fighting. I don't understand that at all, Did he go into SSJB Kaio-ken straight from normal Super Saiyan and he resembled SSG for a minute? because that 2nd part as soon as he attacked he became SSJB.

Edit - Sorry! replied before you edited!

[SaiyanGirl]

So Goku went from normal state to super saiyan and from that to god and from god back to blue? I'm not sure but I guess he went back to blue because of stamina issues, after that he left the ring?

But wasn't blue supposed to be stronger than god?

[Khin]

It looks like Toei are messing up more than the production cause what they did is very different from what we got here which means it's also different from what Toriyama wrote.

I really doubt TOEI would change a thing that big. Toriyama probably just told them to write whatever they want.

[Ajay]

That was significantly better than episode 39 in terms of choreography and what-not. Though it's a shame the ending is rushed in this version, I much prefer how things play out.

The return of regular Super Saiyan God makes me very happy, though I'm still struggling to make sense of it. I figured it was a one-time thing that Goku absorbed. I do miss the form though, so it's not really a huge deal.

Can't say I'm a big fan of outright stating that Goku regular God form is stronger than Vegeta in SSJ Blue, though. That doesn't really sit well with me.

Everything else, though? Yeah, it was an improvement.

[Khin]

Well. That was kinda dumb.

Goku didn't turn Super Saiyan Blue at all. He turned into regular Super Saiyan and went Kaio-ken right away. He also didn't receive any injuries due to Kaio-ken unlike in the anime. So there's no consequences from using it. It also looked very similar to Super Saiyan God. Which makes me think Toriyama didn't give any design for the Kaio-ken and let Toyotaro and TOEI to design it themselves. Another thing i didn't like is that Champa didn't try to kill his team unlike in the anime.

A bit disappointing chapter overall. I'd say the anime got this one better.

EDIT Read it again. And it looks like he turned Super Saiyan God again, and then turned Blue. Well i guess that's the only thing i would say Toyataro got better.

Actually it looks like he went Super Saiyan, SSG, and SSJB out of no where while fighting.

I know. That's why i edited my post.

[Sodhi]

2 things that change everything about what we know :
Goku can still use SsjR which means Vegeta might be able to as well.

Vegeta did not do the ritual though.

He can go Ssjb which is a higher ssjg level so why wouldn't he be able to use the lower level ?

Didnt he skip it?I guess you are right, there is a chance he can do it, but we never see him do it though.

[Khin]

It kinda feels pointless for Goku to turn into Super Saiyan God, since the gap between Blue and SSG shouldn't that big. Which is why i actually preferred the Kaio-ken version.

[Xeztin]

I don't understand how he automatically switches from SSG to SSJB during the fight. He went from Super Saiyan to SSG and almost out of no where during the fight in the next scene was a SSJB.

[Grimlock]

It was good to see Whis and Vados bowing too, that shows that even them are below Omni-King in the hierarchy. Toei shouldn't have done them standing still.

[Xeztin]

Goku could have went SSJB Kaio-ken at the end but didn't include the double aura. Or it could have been completely a Toei thing.