Is Super just filler??

[TheMikado]

You now have a ton of characters with time related abilities so it wouldn't be out of the question to just rewind all of time at the end of Super to allow EOZ and GT to fit.

Why isn't the splice of life stuff considered filler ?

There's no way they'll do something like that and when Super is over they'll more than likely start a new show set after it.

They are, at least that's how I look at them.

Why exactly wouldn't they? We're seeing tons of time related abilities and even bringing future trunks back. It's the easiest way to recont if they want to keep those things intact

[Kuririn Fan]

You now have a ton of characters with time related abilities so it wouldn't be out of the question to just rewind all of time at the end of Super to allow EOZ and GT to fit.

Why isn't the splice of life stuff considered filler ?

There's no way they'll do something like that and when Super is over they'll more than likely start a new show set after it.

They are, at least that's how I look at them.

Wtf? Why would they start a new show?

[sintzu]

Wtf? Why would they start a new show?

When Toriyama's done they'll probably want to start their own project like they did with GT instead of continuing something that isn't theirs.

[Shinomori]

I always been of the opinion as soon as Super came into existence, it effectively replaced the ending of Z. Even if Uub is reintroduced at the end, we should all discard the ending of Z.

[TheMikado]

I always been of the opinion as soon as Super came into existence, it effectively replaced the ending of Z. Even if Uub is reintroduced at the end, we should all discard the ending of Z.

The reason I think EoZ will still be canon is because they could have made Goku's base as strong as they wanted or as weak. Instead they make it around SSJ3 level same as in EOZ estimates of Goku vs Uub. They could have made base Goku SSJ2 level of way way stronger and it wouldn't really change Super at all. Instead it seems power level wise it's lining up with EOZ.

[EXBadguy]

Yep, cuz of some of its inconsistencies like Goten and Trunks still looking like kids 5 years after the Buu saga, and the color of Future Trunks' hair(I'm petty, deal with it).

[Kuririn Fan]

Wtf? Why would they start a new show?

When Toriyama's done they'll probably want to start their own project like they did with GT instead of continuing something that isn't theirs.

They won't, there's no need for another GT. Let Toriyama do the stories he wants and once he's done - end the series.
And EoZ stays.

[sintzu]

Let Toriyama do the stories he wants and once he's done - end the series.

Db's current priority is selling merchandise so as long as they do it'll never end, with or without him.

[Kuririn Fan]

Let Toriyama do the stories he wants and once he's done - end the series.

Db's current priority is selling merchandise so as long as they do it'll never end, with or without him.

There's no reason to start a new show, they can tell everything they want in this one, it doesn't make sense to start a new one.
And it would bomb without Toriyama, Toei would probably make some shitty adventures exploring 11 universes.

[PsionicWarrior]

There's no reason to start a new show, they can tell everything they want in this one, it doesn't make sense to start a new one.
And it would bomb without Toriyama, Toei would probably make some shitty adventures exploring 11 universes.

I agree. Wait, what?? You're banned??? What happened?????

[Khin]

There's no reason to start a new show, they can tell everything they want in this one, it doesn't make sense to start a new one.
And it would bomb without Toriyama, Toei would probably make some shitty adventures exploring 11 universes.

I agree. Wait, what?? You're banned??? What happened?????

This happened

[PsionicWarrior]

This happened

loooooooooooool
That reply seems really uncalled for though, weird because I read other posts by him which were quite spot on regarding the series. A shame he lost his mind there.

[sintzu]

That reply seems really uncalled for though, weird because I read other posts by him which were quite spot on regarding the series. A shame he lost his mind there.

I've been talking to him for awhile and he's never done that, maybe his account was hacked ?

[PsionicWarrior]

I've been talking to him for awhile and he's never done that, maybe his account was hacked ?

There's always a possibility... At any rate I find the perma ban a bit excessive, this treatment is reserved for obvious trolls and bots, a relatively short temporary silence with a PM reminding forum rules would have been more appropriate imo, but could we speak to mods about this? I haven't seen any "forum feedback" section..

[MaGyunia]

Dragonball without Toriyama heavily involved would turn into a cheesy show which couldn't disgrace the franchise's fantastic past and legacy only because these are indestructible.

[TheMikado]

Super is now worse than filler it's at fan fiction levels, it's like the writers of super were recruited from this forum and given free reign to do whatever they want.

[MaGyunia]

The main issue is that we're rightfully exploring the 10 year gap between the Majin Buu arc and the last three episodes of DBZ, and by the time DBZ ended Toriyama was so overwhelmed after so many years of incessant and continuous need to come up with new interesting events and characters that he wanted to put a swift and quick end to DBZ. Hence its ugly ending. It would have been much better if DBZ had ended, in terms of timeline, right after Kid Buu was killed, with no Uub involved, so that we would be able to start DBSuper from scratch right after that, since whatever happens during this 10 year gap will always eventually and inevitably lead to the introduction of Uub, and it just doesn't seem judging from those last episodes that Goku and Vegeta and everyone else went through the entirety of immense stuff they're going through in DBSuper, BoG, Fukkatsu no F.

Of course I'm not even considering GT, it has completely wiped out of "existence" as far as debate over its canonness goes.

If DBSuper or any other follow-up series or movie or whatever continues the story, it will most likely at some point go beyond those mentioned last three episodes of DBZ, but I hope that any potential series doesn't focus on Uub at all. They did a good job of at least not forgetting to mention him at some point in DBSuper after the Fukkatsu no F arc, though, as there's no way it can be wiped out of existence. Unfortunately, Uub is canon.

It all depends on the quality of the rest of DBSuper. We can't be sure yet if it would be a good idea to throw more stuff our way and invent and create more stories or if they should stop. The commercial part plays a huge role in this, of course, and that be a big disadvantage when it comes to knowing when to stop it or give it a rest.

[TheMikado]

^ you do realize that if EOZ is kept canon then that would allow GT be canon as well since GT is pretty much directly based on EOZ events.

[MaGyunia]

^ you do realize that if EOZ is kept canon then that would allow GT be canon as well since GT is pretty much directly based on EOZ events.

That would open an insane can of worms with the Super Saiya-jin 4. It would just mess things up when it comes to acceptably explaining the transformations and their respective power and methods of achievement.

[TheMikado]

^ you do realize that if EOZ is kept canon then that would allow GT be canon as well since GT is pretty much directly based on EOZ events.

That would open an insane can of worms with the Super Saiya-jin 4. It would just mess things up when it comes to acceptably explaining the transformations and their respective power and methods of achievement.

Wouldn't you have the same problem with EOZ?