Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Yeah. EP48 definitely seemed to be pushing it.
Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Because it's cute and people like both of those characters. Or at least, I find it to be really cute and endearing, and I like both Mai and Kid Trunks as characters.
I mean I get how some people find the fact that Mai is a 40 year old woman in an 8 year old's body to be a little weird and creepy, but I think that the ship feels genuine and that both Mai and Trunks have legitimate feelings for each other. Mai doesn't appear to be manipulating or exploiting Trunks in any way, and as a character she has always acted like a child in the first place, if only a bit more sensible and educated than the average 8-year-old. She's not acting with malicious intent so I don't really see it as an issue. I just see it as more of a cute childhood romance than anything else.
I just wish that we got to see more of Future Trunks and Future Mai before Mai got OHKO'd bu Black. Oh well.
I mean I get how some people find the fact that Mai is a 40 year old woman in an 8 year old's body to be a little weird and creepy, but I think that the ship feels genuine and that both Mai and Trunks have legitimate feelings for each other. Mai doesn't appear to be manipulating or exploiting Trunks in any way, and as a character she has always acted like a child in the first place, if only a bit more sensible and educated than the average 8-year-old. She's not acting with malicious intent so I don't really see it as an issue. I just see it as more of a cute childhood romance than anything else.
I just wish that we got to see more of Future Trunks and Future Mai before Mai got OHKO'd bu Black. Oh well.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Seeing Mai flirt with Kid Trunks was.... 
But also fucking hilarious so I'll allow. Seriously, this is the kind of stuff I'd see in Rick and Morty.
But also fucking hilarious so I'll allow. Seriously, this is the kind of stuff I'd see in Rick and Morty.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
It'll all be worth it when Chris Hansen shows up.ekrolo2 wrote:Seeing Mai flirt with Kid Trunks was....
But also fucking hilarious so I'll allow. Seriously, this is the kind of stuff I'd see in Rick and Morty.
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I wonder how'd Trunks react if Mai told him the truth.
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Trunks & Mai's thoughts on that development....dbzfan7 wrote:It'll all be worth it when Chris Hansen shows up.ekrolo2 wrote:Seeing Mai flirt with Kid Trunks was....
But also fucking hilarious so I'll allow. Seriously, this is the kind of stuff I'd see in Rick and Morty.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Honestly I don't see what the big deal is. In DB even though Mai was like 30 she had the maturity / mentality of an 10 year old, so now that she's 10 physically and mentally it shouldn't really matter
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She's basically NAMBLA'S greatest hero ever now.ekrolo2 wrote:Trunks & Mai's thoughts on that development....dbzfan7 wrote:It'll all be worth it when Chris Hansen shows up.ekrolo2 wrote:Seeing Mai flirt with Kid Trunks was....
But also fucking hilarious so I'll allow. Seriously, this is the kind of stuff I'd see in Rick and Morty.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Blooma knew Mai before the deaging, so she should already know. So she either already told Trunks or she doesn't care.ryou766 wrote:I wonder how'd Trunks react if Mai told him the truth.
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But... Mai isn't a man.dbzfan7 wrote:She's basically NAMBLA'S greatest hero ever now.
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Doesn't matter. Every NAMBLA guy dreams of being turned into a kid again, so they can get together with other kids, without getting into trouble. She's living every NAMBLA guys dream. So Mai is there greatest hero. We are getting more progressive as the years go by, so there's more female inspirations. Mai is an inspiration to all those who want to date young boys, but can't because of age. Such a role modelLord Beerus wrote:But... Mai isn't a man.dbzfan7 wrote:She's basically NAMBLA'S greatest hero ever now.
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We're opening Pandora's box...dbzfan7 wrote:Doesn't matter. Every NAMBLA guy dreams of being turned into a kid again, so they can get together with other kids, without getting into trouble. She's living every NAMBLA guys dream. So Mai is there greatest hero. We are getting more progressive as the years go by, so there's more female inspirations. Mai is an inspiration to all those who want to date young boys, but can't because of age. Such a role modelLord Beerus wrote:But... Mai isn't a man.dbzfan7 wrote:She's basically NAMBLA'S greatest hero ever now.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Didn't Toriyama say he wanted to have a daughter so he could spy on her in the bath?
That might explain some things here.
That might explain some things here.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Um.........source?RandomGuy96 wrote:Didn't Toriyama say he wanted to have a daughter so he could spy on her in the bath?
That might explain some things here.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Toriyama's interview from 1987's Adventure Special:RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:Um.........source?
Note that this is prior to him actually having a daughter.Akira Toriyama wrote:I’d like to be the sort of geezer who pretends to be senile so they can peep on their daughter in the bath.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Well, no. That's offensive by just about any standards. What fiction presents is important, and it's a reasonable reaction to enjoy some of what an author puts forth while taking issue with the potential impact of other content. I could talk about subversive art all day long, but that doesn't mean we all have to give artists carte blanche on moral responsibility, or turn off those receptors when we respond to their work.JulieYBM wrote:Lady Red has its superhero protagonist outright raped and switch to prostitution as a result of liking the money it can make her! By 'normal standards' that's offensive.
This ... doesn't really have anything to do with Trunks and Mai, which I think is sufficiently presented through a lens of innocent absurdity -- bolstered by the freewheeling oddity of Dragon World in general -- but it bears noting.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?
Found it!RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:Um.........source?RandomGuy96 wrote:Didn't Toriyama say he wanted to have a daughter so he could spy on her in the bath?
That might explain some things here.
What kind of old-timer do you want to become?
I’d like to be the sort of geezer who pretends to be senile so they can peep on their daughter in the bath.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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This explains so much...I now see why Mai and Trunks are a thing.RandomGuy96 wrote:Found it!RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:Um.........source?RandomGuy96 wrote:Didn't Toriyama say he wanted to have a daughter so he could spy on her in the bath?
That might explain some things here.What kind of old-timer do you want to become?
I’d like to be the sort of geezer who pretends to be senile so they can peep on their daughter in the bath.
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If I can put in my two cents, it was okay as a one off joke in Bog and RoF. In the Mirai Timeline, my issue is that she's physically the same age as Trunks. (because it doesn't make sense that in the Mirai Timeline, Pilaf gang screw up the wish, and just because of time travel, they wait an extra 10 plus years to screw up the wish in the main timeline. Goku's heart disease not starting when it should and extra androids are one thing, but Pilaf gang were non issues, and the dragonballs would have been as well) Otherwise, if they're both adults, who cares.
But now they're extending this relationship, from a one off joke to main timeline Trunks and Mai being puppy dog eyes with each other, just to mirror the Mirai Trunks and Mai timeline, which they did because of the one off joke from BoG and RoF. And main timeline Trunks is still a minor. And Mai is at least 40. That's creepy. Toei may think it's cute...but it's not.
But now they're extending this relationship, from a one off joke to main timeline Trunks and Mai being puppy dog eyes with each other, just to mirror the Mirai Trunks and Mai timeline, which they did because of the one off joke from BoG and RoF. And main timeline Trunks is still a minor. And Mai is at least 40. That's creepy. Toei may think it's cute...but it's not.