"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Hellspawn28]

Not a fan of the idea of Luffy being in Heroes. I guess it makes sense since DB and OP both air on the same time slot, Bandai has the merchandise for both of them and they have a similar target audience. I would like someone like Chrono from Chrono Trigger as a guest for Heroes, but I don't think Namco Bandai wants to pay Square Enix to use him. Not to mention I would imagine most kids in Japan would have no idea on who he is.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I doubt he'll be playable. I obviously can't translate it, but the rumblings on Twitter were that he would be a boss opponent. Like back when they had the cross promotion for Doflamingo in Dokkan Battle and Freeza in the One Piece equivalent.

[DragonBallLove]

Spoiler:

What's up with Tanned Goku???

[Mnich]

Spoiler:

What's up with Tanned Goku???

I think it's just a shade.

[Noah]

So if I understand correctly it says that Goku can go: SSJ > SSJ3 > SSGSS?

[Grimlock]

It seems like it. While he charges and performs a combo at the opponent he transforms three times: Base -> Super Saiyan -> Super Saiyan 3 -> Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
But it's not only him, all the CPs card has that new ability.

[Noah]

(Always skipping Super Saiyan 2! )

Hate that too.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Characters transform as many times as depicted on the card apparently, and they vary between 3-4:

Goku - Base -> SS -> SS3 -> SSGSS
Gohan: GT - Base -> SS -> SS4
Vegeta: GT - Base -> SS -> SS3 -> SS4
Trunks: Future - Base -> SS -> SS3
Gogeta - SS -> SS3 -> SS4
Bardock: Xeno - Base -> SS -> SS3
Freeza: 1st -> 3rd -> 100% -> Golden
Broli - Base -> LSS -> SS3 -> FPSS4

[Anime Kitten]

I'm noticing a lot of SS3 and a lack of SS2.

[alakazam^]

I imagine there was nothing special in the Black-Masked Saiyan's little bio blurb? (There never is.)

Yep, nothing special. The only thing I found interesting was them saying his mask had the Ankoku Makai symbol but this is probably Xenoverse knowledge.

It seems like it. While he charges and performs a combo at the opponent he transforms three times: Base -> Super Saiyan -> Super Saiyan 3 -> Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
But it's not only him, all the CPs card has that new ability.

That's right, it's the new Change Rush ability.

A Goku Black card will be included in September's issue.

EDIT: Oh, Luffy and Tesoro will appear due to a collaboration, for those who care.

[NeoKING]

I'm noticing a lot of SS3 and a lack of SS2.

Because the actual form itself is almost useless for any non-Gohan character.

[Grimlock]

Those were the last time somebody else got Super Saiyan 2; Goku in JM7 and Bardock in JM8. Exactly/over ten missions ago. What's going on!?

Spoiler:

[Nejishiki]

In a surprising twist, the Heroes staff that are known for not being afraid to include any and everything, actually took Toriyama's words to heart and forgot about Super Saiyan 2, as well.

[Anime Kitten]

Too bad, because it's awesome...

Oh, well. No point in complaining.

[ekrolo2]

Super Saiyan 2s problem has always been the fact only Gohan made it look unique in its debut with subsequent characters not pulling it off. I mean really, what is the actual visual difference between SSJ2 Gogeta, Broly and Vegeta except the lightning? At least with Vegetto they had the good sense to remove one of his bangs.

[Anime Kitten]

Super Saiyan 2s problem has always been the fact only Gohan made it look unique in its debut with subsequent characters not pulling it off. I mean really, what is the actual visual difference between SSJ2 Gogeta, Broly and Vegeta except the lightning? At least with Vegetto they had the good sense to remove one of his bangs.

Gogeta is always listed as "Super Gogeta", so I wasn't sure if that was Super Saiyan 2, in which case we don't know what's different. Broly doesn't have Super Saiyan 2 as far as I'm concerned, and Vegeta's hair should spread out more. Also when does Vegito/Vegetto use Super Saiyan 2?

[Shinnin]

Super Saiyan 2s problem has always been the fact only Gohan made it look unique in its debut with subsequent characters not pulling it off. I mean really, what is the actual visual difference between SSJ2 Gogeta, Broly and Vegeta except the lightning? At least with Vegetto they had the good sense to remove one of his bangs.

…there's a Super Saiyan 2 Broly?

[Grimlock]

Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta has bigger and spikier hair compared to his Super Saiyan form, one can easily tell the difference between both forms from any perspective.

Spoiler:

Broly doesn't have Super Saiyan 2 in Dragon Ball Heroes, but he has it somewhere else.

Spoiler:

[ekrolo2]

Super Saiyan 2s problem has always been the fact only Gohan made it look unique in its debut with subsequent characters not pulling it off. I mean really, what is the actual visual difference between SSJ2 Gogeta, Broly and Vegeta except the lightning? At least with Vegetto they had the good sense to remove one of his bangs.

…there's a Super Saiyan 2 Broly?

Super Saiyan 2s problem has always been the fact only Gohan made it look unique in its debut with subsequent characters not pulling it off. I mean really, what is the actual visual difference between SSJ2 Gogeta, Broly and Vegeta except the lightning? At least with Vegetto they had the good sense to remove one of his bangs.

Gogeta is always listed as "Super Gogeta", so I wasn't sure if that was Super Saiyan 2, in which case we don't know what's different. Broly doesn't have Super Saiyan 2 as far as I'm concerned, and Vegeta's hair should spread out more. Also when does Vegito/Vegetto use Super Saiyan 2?

A Super Saiyan 2 Broly appears in a Kai card game as seen here (notice how there's barely a difference if any between this and his default LSS form):

Spoiler:

Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta is seen in a Heroes trailer here, once again, besides the lightning there's no visual difference between his SS and SS2 forms:

Spoiler:

Vegetto got SSJ2 from Heroes too, on the card seen here his hairs the same but in-game one of his bangs vanishes and this is something that sticks for his Super Saiyan 3 form:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I don't dislike Super Saiyan 2, but its obvious that Toriyama and artists following him have been pretty lazy with the designs of the form. Not that its core design of "its Super Saiyan 2 but spikier!" helps much. As much crap as you can give to 3 for being excessive and being a borderline parody, its pretty unmistakable from any of the other forms.

Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta has bigger and spikier hair compared to his Super Saiyan form, one can easily tell the difference between both forms from any perspective.

Spoiler:

Broly doesn't have Super Saiyan 2 in Dragon Ball Heroes, but he has it somewhere else.

Spoiler:

Honestly, if you hadn't pointed out to me, I couldn't tell you which was which lol.

[Anime Kitten]

Well, none of those are actually official, and if they were, who knows what they'd look like (if any different, that is)?

Anyway, though, let's get back on topic, shall we?