"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

Super's already been looney tunes nuts with power levels, might as well just take advantage of that and hand that shit out like candy on Halloween.

Amen. Super might as well goes balls to wall and start giving out power ups or new transformations to members of the cast when the plot suits for it. Much like GT. There's no point in Super to be consistent with power scaling at this stage. That ship has sailed.

This argument makes no sense since Dragon Ball has never been constant with power levels. And if the power ups was really as crazy as some of you are suggesting, everyone except the Saiyans wouldn't be stuck at Semi-Perfect Cell level for ten years.

I personally don't want them to

hand out Super Saiyan forms like candy since that was one of the primary complaints about the series from the Cell Saga onward.

And even then, Super Saiyan 3 was only given to Goku and Gotenks, Vegeta and especially Piccolo was left in the dust.

I'll never understand those complaints. It just limits the cast which is pretty stupid. They're all saiyans and they're all talented ones at that. They should be able to ascend to similar power levels.

[Lord Beerus]

Super's already been looney tunes nuts with power levels, might as well just take advantage of that and hand that shit out like candy on Halloween.

Amen. Super might as well goes balls to wall and start giving out power ups or new transformations to members of the cast when the plot suits for it. Much like GT. There's no point in Super to be consistent with power scaling at this stage. That ship has sailed.

This argument makes no sense since Dragon Ball has never been constant with power levels. And if the power ups was really as crazy as some of you are suggesting, everyone except the Saiyans wouldn't be stuck at Semi-Perfect Cell level for ten years.

I personally don't want them to hand out Super Saiyan forms like candy since that was one of the primary complaints about the series from the Cell Saga onward. And even then, Super Saiyan 3 was only given to Goku and Gotenks, Vegeta and especially Piccolo was left in the dust.

I'll speaking strictly about Super. Yeah, I know Dragon Ball's power scaling got way out hand once SSJ and Zenkai's became a thing, but Super is a completely different beast of its own. It could have been consistent. The power scaling could have been more linear and simple. But Super chose not to go down those routes. In the anime and the manga. And instead, much GT, it took the cop out, "Everybody is a strong as the plot requires".

[Sodhi]

These new titles are interesting. If we are getting to learn Black's true identity in #53, then I have no doubt this arc is going to be longer than the others. #53 would be the 7th episode of this arc, and we still got to know about zamasu, omni king involvement, involvement of gods, and see the final big fight.

[EXBadguy]

Isn't this supposed to be the last saga or the one before the last one of this? I ask that because this saga involves everyone around the universe, and maybe the saga after that will have Zarama as the villain.

[sailorspazz]

Also if i may, while these titles seem very interesting, aren't Japanese titles for Super normally longer than what these are?

The ones that appear in the TV listings like this are always shorter versions of the titles. Also, in some cases they've seemed to merely be placeholders, since the titles often end up changing significantly from these early versions.

Personally, I like these ones that are a bit shorter and vaguer. I'm really excited for this arc, and I've enjoyed going into the last few episodes pretty much blind, having very little idea of what will happen. Of course, I know every time a batch of spoilers is released, I'll be clamoring to read them anyway, because I just can't stop myself!

None of the titles mention Zamasu, so I'm curious when he'll appear. Soon? In a few weeks? Can't wait to find out...and drool over Shinichirou Miki's sexy voice

[B]

Interested in learning if "Future Trunks & Gohan" is referring to One-Armed Gohan or Nerd Gohan.

[VegettoEX]

Isn't this supposed to be the last saga or the one before the last one of this?

There is absolutely no indication, nor has there been any announcement, of an intended ending for Dragon Ball Super.

All that we KNOW is that we are in the "Future Trunks Arc" right now, and fandom is generally assuming we will at some point have an multi-universal tournament based on Zen'o's request (but that has never actually been announced from a production standpoint).

[Araki]

I have the feeling the "Gohan and Trunks" episode will be about Trunks going to get Gohan's help (to train? for advice?), but from that point, it could go either way: they fighting together or Trunks realizing this Gohan is a family man who lives in peace and very different from his master, ultimately deciding to leave him alone when the episode is over.
Honestly, the latter would be more logical, all things considered.

[kinisking]

I have the feeling the "Gohan and Trunks" episode will be about Trunks going to get Gohan's help (to train? for advice?), but from that point, it could go either way: they fighting together or Trunks realizing this Gohan is a family man who lives in peace and very different from his master, ultimately deciding to leave him alone when the episode is over.
Honestly, the latter would be more logical, all things considered.

Logical? That completely ignores the fact that gohan would never refuse someone's plea for help.

[Araki]

I have the feeling the "Gohan and Trunks" episode will be about Trunks going to get Gohan's help (to train? for advice?), but from that point, it could go either way: they fighting together or Trunks realizing this Gohan is a family man who lives in peace and very different from his master, ultimately deciding to leave him alone when the episode is over.
Honestly, the latter would be more logical, all things considered.

Logical? That completely ignores the fact that gohan would never refuse someone's plea for help.

Who said Trunks will actually ask for his help? I never did, just that he would go after him and that would be one possible scenario.

If Trunks realizes he is a different person from the Gohan he was expecting, i can easily see him stopping right there, without saying anything.

[HeroR]

I'll speaking strictly about Super. Yeah, I know Dragon Ball's power scaling got way out hand once SSJ and Zenkai's became a thing, but Super is a completely different beast of its own. It could have been consistent. The power scaling could have been more linear and simple. But Super chose not to go down those routes. In the anime and the manga. And instead, much GT, it took the cop out, "Everybody is a strong as the plot requires".

What exactly are these in constancy. If your answer is why are the U6 fighters are so powerful, the answer is different universe, different stories, and different adventures since U7 are not special snowflakes when it comes to how is powerful. If your answer is Piccolo vs. Frost, that was talk to death in the power level forum and the answer is simply. Frost got his ass kicked by Super Saiyan Goku and was handling Piccolo with kids gloves, something Piccolo lampshaded.

And Dragon Ball has always been "Everybody is a strong as the plot requires" if you break it down. Goku went from being weaker than Vegeta who was at 18,000 to being 3 million by the time he confronted Freeza. Or how about Piccolo going from weaker than third form Freeza to beating up Android 20 who is stronger than Freeza's true form. How about Tien being able hold off Semi-Pefect Cell despite the giant power gap.

Also, the power levels are linear and simple. Zen-O >>>> Whis and Vados >>> Beerus and Champa >> Goku, Vegeta >>> Gohan > Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks >> Mr Buu > Piccolo

It's not that complicated. Most of the complaints I've seen are people not liking how much the power jumped between the Buu Saga and the Battle of Gods Saga.

[kinisking]

I have the feeling the "Gohan and Trunks" episode will be about Trunks going to get Gohan's help (to train? for advice?), but from that point, it could go either way: they fighting together or Trunks realizing this Gohan is a family man who lives in peace and very different from his master, ultimately deciding to leave him alone when the episode is over.
Honestly, the latter would be more logical, all things considered.

Logical? That completely ignores the fact that gohan would never refuse someone's plea for help.

Who said Trunks will actually ask for his help? I never did, just that he would go after him.
If Trunks realizes he is a different person from the Gohan he was expecting, i can easily see he stopping right there, without saying anything.

Oh, that makes much more sense. Something like seeing Gohan through the window being happy, and then turning back without asking. Would be a touching moment actually

[EXBadguy]

Isn't this supposed to be the last saga or the one before the last one of this?

There is absolutely no indication, nor has there been any announcement, of an intended ending for Dragon Ball Super.

All that we KNOW is that we are in the "Future Trunks Arc" right now, and fandom is generally assuming we will at some point have an multi-universal tournament based on Zen'o's request (but that has never actually been announced from a production standpoint).

I mean, if THAT doesn't sound like a final battle, then I don't know what is.

[kinisking]

Isn't this supposed to be the last saga or the one before the last one of this?

There is absolutely no indication, nor has there been any announcement, of an intended ending for Dragon Ball Super.

All that we KNOW is that we are in the "Future Trunks Arc" right now, and fandom is generally assuming we will at some point have an multi-universal tournament based on Zen'o's request (but that has never actually been announced from a production standpoint).

I mean, if THAT doesn't sound like a final battle, then I don't know what is.

You never know with dragonBall. Both freeza and cell sounded like final battles. Much more than boo at least.

[Avok]

Am I the only who feels they're going too fast?

How much did we wait to get to Frieza? How much did it take for Cell to achieve its perfect form? The buil-up to Buu was long too, but now in 6 episodes we'll know Black's true nature.

Were are the intricated arcs where one thing leads to another and so on?

[kinisking]

Am I the only who feels they're going too fast?

How much did we wait to get to Frieza? How much did it take for Cell to achieve its perfect form? The buil-up to Buu was long too, but now in 6 episodes we'll know Black's true nature.

Were are the intricated arcs where one thing leads to another and so on?

Wait and see. Who says black is even the main villian? This arc could easily be 20 episodes or higher

[Kouga]

Am I the only who feels they're going too fast?

Maybe, but until the release of the new opening, none of us knew anything about Zamasu. And if they arrived new characters of which we ignore the existence?

[Boo Machine]

Am I the only who feels they're going too fast?

How much did we wait to get to Frieza? How much did it take for Cell to achieve its perfect form? The buil-up to Buu was long too, but now in 6 episodes we'll know Black's true nature.

Were are the intricated arcs where one thing leads to another and so on?

Maybe exposing Black is what leads to another situation. As far as trunks, or anybody knows, Black is the only obstacle.

But we have yet to seen that green kai looking dude. So if he is a bad guy like a few people are saying then learning who black is could lead to green kai being the next obstacle . Though this is all just guessing.

Besides, the Freeza, Cell, and Buu arc all had points where it dragged on just a little to long. If that happened here it probably would not sit well with a lot of people.

[Pannaliciour]

Am I the only who feels they're going too fast?

Maybe, but until the release of the new opening, none of us knew anything about Zamasu. And if they arrived new characters of which we ignore the existence?

Dbz had a good amount of Fillers, because the progress
of the manga? Now dragon ball super doesn't have to wait. Toriyama has already deliverd the story

[LightBing]

This arc feels like it still has a lot to unravel. Expecting a good fight and very interested in the Gohan/Trunks episode. Black's deal, that's what everybody wants to know, the episode I'm more anxious for.