Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Vegeta was already above Gohan (who was above Gotenks) by the time Beers came to Earth. Ultimate Gohan got knocked out in a single attack.
You're asking me to speak on something that hasn't been elaborated on in any way. The fact that Trunks was able to reach Super Saiyan 2 despite having no Otherworld training like Goku, no dormant powers like Gohan, and no gravity room like Vegeta tells us he has his own methods of getting a lot stronger. Goku complimented Trunks' power, Beers' complimented Trunks. You don't have to like it, but that is a strong indication he's quite powerful. The same Trunks got about 50x stronger training alone when Future Gohan was gone, so it's silly to assume he can't get a lot stronger.
Well said, I agree with this entirely.
I think people are forgetting that SSJ3 Goku / Vegeta were already the top players on their team upon Beerus' arrival. If Super follows the anime continuity, there really isn't anything wrong with this, as the duo was clearly holding their own against carbon copies of Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks, both of whom were presumably on par with their real counterparts.
The whole "if Goku and Vegeta weren't able to do it, then so-and-so has no chance whatsoever" argument is easily refutable when you look at the show's track record of strength progression.
Training with King Kai yielded
far better results for Piccolo, and even nobodies like Tien and Yamcha, despite the group undergoing the same type of training for a
much shorter duration. Piccolo went from 3,000 - 4,000 to a caliber that Nail deemed worthy in a week's worth of time, whereas Goku barely reached 8,000 (without Kaioken) in little less than a year.
Relatively speaking, Piccolo saw a far greater leap in power than Goku did during their three years of training together; the former presumably went from Third Form Frieza tier to some unspecified level that was able to effortlessly trump Gero (someone who tired SSJ Vegeta refrained from fighting).
Bottom line is, if the story requires a particular character to reach a certain level, it will happen with little to no explanation. Therefore, I see nothing wrong with Trunks being stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks or any of the top contenders from the Buu arc.
