Things that grind your gears

[fadeddreams5]

Maybe they want them in the video games so they can beat them up.

[HybridSaiyan]

Maybe they want them in the video games so they can beat them up.

Lol. Realistically speaking, GT > Super in Power Levels so, they should have some trouble carrying that out ;D

[pacz360]

Maybe they want them in the video games so they can beat them up.

Lol. Realistically speaking, GT > Super in Power Levels so, they should have some trouble carrying that out ;D

Hey now no need to turn this into a power level my friend but yeah the gt hate tends to get overrated i used to hate gt as the next guy but super lately made me apperciate gt more and think it wasn't that bad to begin with.

[HybridSaiyan]

Maybe they want them in the video games so they can beat them up.

Lol. Realistically speaking, GT > Super in Power Levels so, they should have some trouble carrying that out ;D

Hey now no need to turn this into a power level my friend but yeah the gt hate tends to get overrated i used to hate gt as the next guy but super lately made me apperciate gt more and think it wasn't that bad to begin with.

GT isn't even THAT bad. So when people use that phrase "GT Logic" I'll hit them back by using "Super Logic"

People who despise GT grind my damn gears.

[sintzu]

Vegeta used a cheap method, though. So, I don't really count that as him achieving SS4; assuming he can't achieve it on his own.

He reached it the same way Goku did, he transformed into an Ozaru and regained control over his body which transformed him into it.

What's different is how he went Ozaru, Goku had natural Blutz waves (I think that's what they're called) from the earth while Vegeta didn't so in order to get them he had to use a machine or get his tail pulled out and wait for a full moon. it didn't matter how he went Ozaru cause that has nothing to do with Ssj4, regaining control as the ozaru and having the physical ability to transform is what counts and Vegeta did them on his own like Goku did.

In terms of transforming again, he'll need his tail pulled out in order to do so.

[ryou766]

it didn't matter how he went Ozaru cause that has nothing to do with Ssj4.

As far as we know, Oozaru is a necessity to achieving SS4.

[sintzu]

it didn't matter how he went Ozaru cause that has nothing to do with Ssj4.

As far as we know, Oozaru is a necessity to achieving SS4.

It is but anyone can go Ozaru and there are many ways of doing it, reaching Ssj4 on the other hand depends on the Saiyan's ability to control himself while he's an Ozaru and his Physical ability to transform into Ssj4.

[HybridSaiyan]

it didn't matter how he went Ozaru cause that has nothing to do with Ssj4.

As far as we know, Oozaru is a necessity to achieving SS4.

It is but anyone can go Ozaru and there are many ways of doing it, reaching Ssj4 on the other hand depends on the Saiyan's ability to control himself while he's an Ozaru and his Physical ability to transform into Ssj4.

Don't any of you find it interesting when you use SSJ4 Goku on Xenoverse and Fight Beerus or Whis and they appear to be surprised by SSJ4's power and appearance? I loved it!

[sintzu]

Don't any of you find it interesting when you use SSJ4 Goku on Xenoverse and Fight Beerus or Whis and they appear to be surprised by SSJ4's power and appearance? I loved it!

Me too, it was a nice addition to the game and hopefully we'll see more of it in XV2.

[HybridSaiyan]

Don't any of you find it interesting when you use SSJ4 Goku on Xenoverse and Fight Beerus or Whis and they appear to be surprised by SSJ4's power and appearance? I loved it!

Me too, it was a nice addition to the game and hopefully we'll see more of it in XV2.

Yeah, if they actually explored GT with Beerus and Whis around? That's something they could try, because they did it with Raging Blast with the "what if" scenarios.

[sintzu]

People who despise GT grind my damn gears.

I used to be one of them but I'm not anymore thanks to Super.

[MCDaveG]

After 50th episode of Super, this is my gear grinder:
Lack of tension! Lack of slaughter! When will the Bra be conceived! Pan fetus! Lack of tension! Comedy! Why is the kids' show for kids! Lack of tension!
Why is Urgh stronger than Blurgh, when Blurgh was stronger than Flurf - but this mighty form has a 10000000000 multiplier! Lack of tension!

Yeah, I think I hate the fans...

[Ajay]

I'd say lack of tension is a pretty valid complaint -- especially when it's clear they're trying very hard to establish it. This arc is certainly getting there though, so that's a positive.

Everything else I'm with you on.

[Ringworm128]

People talking about Funimation's pre Kai dub(s) like they never improved from 1999.

[MCDaveG]

I'd say lack of tension is a pretty valid complaint -- especially when it's clear they're trying very hard to establish it. This arc is certainly getting there though, so that's a positive.

Everything else I'm with you on.

I am not against that complaint completely, it's just the word alone starts to piss me off. It is like in those everywhere cooking shows: ''this cake is moist and spongy'' ''This one needs more moist''.
After every single Super episode in Super thread, there are countless comments like: ''Pilaf episode, didn't like, lack of tension'', ''Goku fights Freeza, lack of tension'' ''I sense a great lack of tension'''
''There is Pan's fetus in the belly of Videl, but the episode lacks tension'' ''Trunks' hair is blue, because he lacks tension'' ''TENSION'' etc.

[fadeddreams5]

You seem a little tense.

[ABED]

I'd say lack of tension is a pretty valid complaint -- especially when it's clear they're trying very hard to establish it. This arc is certainly getting there though, so that's a positive.

Everything else I'm with you on.

I am not against that complaint completely, it's just the word alone starts to piss me off. It is like in those everywhere cooking shows: ''this cake is moist and spongy'' ''This one needs more moist''.
After every single Super episode in Super thread, there are countless comments like: ''Pilaf episode, didn't like, lack of tension'', ''Goku fights Freeza, lack of tension'' ''I sense a great lack of tension'''
''There is Pan's fetus in the belly of Videl, but the episode lacks tension'' ''Trunks' hair is blue, because he lacks tension'' ''TENSION'' etc.

Lack of tension is a valid complaint in an action show.

And the other thing that grinds my gears - people looking down on filler just because it's filler.

[MCDaveG]

You seem a little tense.

I am easy going guy. It's just text. Go visit in-universe or Super threads and tell me that I am tense, seriously

[ekrolo2]

That being a fan means blindly loving/defending everything about a show no matter what your actual stance on it is, see every other place but here and dbzf.com for fine examples of this with DB and fandom period.

[HybridSaiyan]

Is Videl in this new Super series guys?
I can't tell what Toei / Toriyama messed up more, her appearance or her personality.
Videl use to be one of my favorite females besides 18 so I get very salty when I see her nowadays..