Vegeta has a good chance to kill Black Goku

Lujin_16 · Post by **Lujin_16** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:39 am

Reasons why i think he will kill Black Goku:

1. Vegeta's characters has changed he is more calm now maybe Akira likes him more and has decide to give him the kill

2. In Episode 50 who Future trunks was sad about the time machine and Vegeta said to him " Don't give up, we'll find a way." It feels like he will save him and the future

3. I don't know but i think Goku will become the heart virus again I do not know how hmm maybe because he goes in the future something like that..

namekiansaiyan · Post by **namekiansaiyan** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:54 am

Lujin_16 wrote:Reasons why i think he will kill Black Goku:

1. Vegeta's characters has changed he is more calm now maybe Akira likes him more and has decide to give him the kill

2. In Episode 50 who Future trunks was sad about the time machine and Vegeta said to him " Don't give up, we'll find a way." It feels like he will save him and the future

3. I don't know but i think Goku will become the heart virus again I do not know how hmm maybe because he goes in the future something like that..

No.

1. Vegeta will receive a beating
2. Vegeta will not beat a main villain

Lujin_16 · Post by **Lujin_16** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:02 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Lujin_16 wrote:Reasons why i think he will kill Black Goku:

1. Vegeta's characters has changed he is more calm now maybe Akira likes him more and has decide to give him the kill

2. In Episode 50 who Future trunks was sad about the time machine and Vegeta said to him " Don't give up, we'll find a way." It feels like he will save him and the future

3. I don't know but i think Goku will become the heart virus again I do not know how hmm maybe because he goes in the future something like that..
No.

1. Vegeta will receive a beating
2. Vegeta will not beat a main villain

I am not sure about that

but your opinion

MozillaVulpix · Post by **MozillaVulpix** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:03 am

If anyone really deserves to kill Black, it'd be Trunks. Trunks didn't have much of a connection to Cell (although neither did Gohan), but he was able to eliminate the people responsible for destroying his own timeline. Black is in the same case as the Androids, so it'd be fair to give Trunks that satisfaction.

The fact that Resurrection 'F' openly made fun of everyone's expectations of wanting Vegeta to kill Freeza makes me think that they don't take this as seriously as some of the fans do.

I personally don't care who kills Black, because he literally looks and acts like an evil Goku. This time, the arc would actually feel justified in having Goku finish the fight and save the world from his literal evil doppleganger.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:41 am

In the last episode Black said something like "he didn't think he'd fight Gku in that body" which hints at it not being his and with him having some kind of heart pain, he might end up taking over normal Goku's body.

In terms of Vegeta beating him, I think there's a strong chance of that for 3 reasons :

1- Like you said, Vegeta has changed a lot.

2- He's the story's 2nd main character.

3- Toei knew about this arc for awhile which is why I think We got an arc before it about Vegeta losing his powers and nearly his body and soul to an evil being which forced Goku to step in and save him, I think they did it to prepare us for the complete opposite happening in this arc.

However, I don't want him to get killed off in this arc, he has a serious personality that Super has been lacking so it would be great to see him stick around for awhile.

namekiansaiyan wrote:Vegeta will not beat a main villain

Tell that to Freeza.

Saikyo no Senshi · Post by **Saikyo no Senshi** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:52 am

No, Trunks should be the one to kill Black and save his timeline. It is his arc he deserves to be the star. I know the chances of Trunks getting the kill is very slim so a team victory instead of a solo victory is what i want and i think everyone would be satisfied with that.

- Travis

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:54 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:No, Trunks should be the one to kill Black and save his timeline. It is his arc he deserves to be the star. I know the chances of Trunks getting the kill is very slim so a team victory instead of a solo victory is what i want and i think everyone would be satisfied with that.

- Travis

If it's a team victory then Gohan should also be part of it.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:22 pm

I think if Gokû Black is a possessed body that his possessor might leave him at some point and that's who Vegeta would get a shot at killing.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:21 pm

sintzu wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Vegeta will not beat a main villain
Tell that to Freeza.

Vegeta. Did. Not. Beat. Freeza. Goku did. He killed Freeza. Hell, if it wasn't for Whis, Vegeta would have stay dead after Freeza blew up the Earth and killed him.

FortuneSSJ · Post by **FortuneSSJ** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:27 pm

Vegeta also had a good chance to kill Golden Freeza and Freeza killed him again.
Toriyama can be really mean when he wants.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:55 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Vegeta. Did. Not. Beat. Freeza. Goku did. He killed Freeza.

I'm not talking about who killed him, when he and Vegeta fought, Vegeta was the one standing while Freeza was on his hands and knees waiting for his demise.

If beating someone = killing them then Goku didn't beat Nappa, Recoom or Burter, Vegeta did because he killed them, right ?

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:03 pm

sintzu wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Vegeta. Did. Not. Beat. Freeza. Goku did. He killed Freeza.
I'm not talking about who killed him, when he and Vegeta fought, Vegeta was the one standing while Freeza was on his hands and knees waiting for his demise.

If beating someone = killing them then Goku didn't beat Nappa, Recoom or Burter, Vegeta did because he killed them, right ?

Freeza blew up the Earth and killed Vegeta and Freeza also managed to survive. That's no victory for Vegeta in the slightest. He took down a fatigued Golden Freeza and still lost in the end because he died and Freeza lived.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:08 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Freeza blew up the Earth and killed Vegeta.

Whis fixed that so Vegeta's victory still stands while Freeza is burning in hell...or hanging from a tree.

GodKaio-Ken · Post by **GodKaio-Ken** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:43 pm

sintzu wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Freeza blew up the Earth and killed Vegeta.
Whis fixed that so Vegeta's victory still stands while Freeza is burning in hell...or hanging from a tree.

Whis fixed that but Goku got the kill. So Vegeta won in neither context.

kinisking · Post by **kinisking** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:52 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Freeza blew up the Earth and killed Vegeta.
Whis fixed that so Vegeta's victory still stands while Freeza is burning in hell...or hanging from a tree.
Whis fixed that but Goku got the kill. So Vegeta won in neither context.

Well according to the timeline, vegeta never got killed. What we saw technically never happened. So yes, Vegeta did beat Freeza.

GodKaio-Ken · Post by **GodKaio-Ken** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:54 pm

Eh I wouldn't agree with that at all. I mean I get what you are saying but the fact is we know exactly what would have happened if Goku didn't get the kill...there is absolutely no question about what happened next.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:06 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:The fact is we know exactly what would have happened if Goku didn't get the kill.

We also know what would've happened if Trunks didn't go back in time when he did so does that mean everyone is dead because we know they'd be dead if he didn't go back ?

kinisking · Post by **kinisking** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:07 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:Eh I wouldn't agree with that at all. I mean I get what you are saying but the fact is we know exactly what would have happened if Goku didn't get the kill...there is absolutely no question about what happened next.

What WOULD have happened. But, it didn't.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:48 pm

kinisking wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:Eh I wouldn't agree with that at all. I mean I get what you are saying but the fact is we know exactly what would have happened if Goku didn't get the kill...there is absolutely no question about what happened next.
What WOULD have happened. But, it didn't.

Yeah, and Goku still killed Freeza, not Vegeta. And he stopped Freeza from destroying the planet and killing Vegeta. So Vegeta didn't beat Freeza. At all.

namekiansaiyan · Post by **namekiansaiyan** » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:56 pm

Vegeta did not 100% beat Frieza but Goku did.

Kanzenshuu

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