"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Saikyo no Senshi]

[spoiler]Trunks/Gohan episode looks boring. Hopefully Trunks will get some development and as for Gohan i don't care.

Gokuu v Zamasu(who distrusts humanity) interesting. Shinichorou Miki i can't wait to listen to his voice. Excited for episode 53.

54 is the most exciting one for me cause of 2 reasons. 1) It is a King Ryuu episode 2) It focusses on Trunks again. The fact that Trunks seems to be the focus makes me so happy.

- Travis[/spoiler]

[Yomi]

Gohan's character development is meh/okay.
I don't believe that character development is equal to their power level.
It's more of, "have they accomplished their goals in life?" Also mooching
off of Satan's money would seem pretty pathetic. I'm glad that
someone in the main cast has goals that aren't "Me punch hard like ape ancestors"

Also, every time Gohan gets power, his human half just gets corrupted and fucks up the situation anyway.

[namekiansaiyan]

Episode 52 is exactly what was expected.

Episode 53 has another Goku fight which will make it boring.

Episode 54 Vegeta's and Trunks' training will be as pointless as Gohan' and Piccolo's training as Trunks will not become anywhere near as strong as Goku and Vegeta in such a short time.

So nothing to get excited about in these episodes.

[Yomi]

When they say "humans" or "humanity" they probably just mean "Mortals"
The U6 Kaioshin, called all the U7 contestants "Humans" and none of them are "Human" by our definition.

[Ki Breaker]

Wow, those are some goood titles..
Could have been better though if the one to challenge zamasu was not goku..

It used to be an awesome moment when goku came to fight, now it's a treat when he isn't fighting..

That's the only complaint I have wth this anyway..

52 seems to be the final goodbye for gohan, will watch while keeping that in mind, hope it's delivered nicely..

[alakazam^]

Don't forget to use spoiler tags, guys, I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't want to know what happens,

I don't think there's any need for that, the point of this thread is to spoil stuff.

Curious about the Gohan/Trunks episode and I'm happy they'll actually take some time off while Bulma fixes the time machine (like I said ). Initially, I did find odd that they would be travelling to Universe 10 (and with the time machine) but if it is just Beers, Whis and Goku, then all falls into place since they'll probably use the cube.

So... Zamasu being Black seems likely, which isn't that interesting but I wonder what his deal is. Future Zamasu gets further corrupted? Maybe Zen'ou destroyed his Universe because of something humans did?

I hope that, at the end of the arc, when Trunks leaves, his present self expresses the desire to have a sibling, to which Bulma and Vegeta take the hint

[Krillin1994]

I'm really happy they're addressing how pathetic Gohan is and if Trunks is going to train with Vegeta (which will be great to see) then maybe Gohan will train with Goku.

I could be wrong but I think it's safe to say Vegeta will train Trunks to reach Ssj3.

Vegeta couldn't really train Trunks into Super Saiyan 3, it'd be weird to teach someone into a form that you can't use.

More than likely he'll teach him how to not leak Ki and become God.


Hopefully Trunks' bewilderment at Gohan will make Gohan feel shame and motivate him.

[namekiansaiyan]

I'm really happy they're addressing how pathetic Gohan is and if Trunks is going to train with Vegeta (which will be great to see) then maybe Gohan will train with Goku.

I could be wrong but I think it's safe to say Vegeta will train Trunks to reach Ssj3.

Vegeta couldn't really train Trunks into Super Saiyan 3, it'd be weird to teach someone into a form that you can't use.

More than likely he'll teach him how to not leak Ki and become God.

The summary only says 'some' training and does not mean intense training. I think it would be the most stupid thing in Super if he becomes SSB so quick.

[Jaetinh]

If Zamasu and Black are the same person, why would a kaioshin from U10 have any interest in destroying the future-U7? Mind your own damn business man!

[namekiansaiyan]

If Zamasu and Black are the same person, why would a kaioshin from U10 have any interest in destroying the future-U6? Mind your own damn business man!

I would guess something like he thinks universe 7 done something to his homeland which could be in one of the destroyed universes. Someone told him that but is probably not true and the person who did tell him is the main villain.

[HECTOR4]

Episode 51, sinopsis appeared in the Fuji TV site. Can someone translate this?:

もう一台のタイムマシンは、かつてセルが乗ってきたものだった！希望を抱くトランクスは「マイ」が未来のマイと同一人物という事に気付き、未来の出来事を語る。

Link: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

[Jaetinh]

If Zamasu and Black are the same person, why would a kaioshin from U10 have any interest in destroying the future-U6? Mind your own damn business man!

I would guess something like he thinks universe 7 done something to his homeland which could be in one of the destroyed universes. Someone told him that but is probably not true and the person who did tell him is the main villain.

But still, doesn't make sense that he would go to the Future U7 instead of present time U7.

[Kanassa]

I'm really happy they're addressing how pathetic Gohan is and if Trunks is going to train with Vegeta (which will be great to see) then maybe Gohan will train with Goku.

I could be wrong but I think it's safe to say Vegeta will train Trunks to reach Ssj3.

Vegeta couldn't really train Trunks into Super Saiyan 3, it'd be weird to teach someone into a form that you can't use.

More than likely he'll teach him how to not leak Ki and become God.

The summary only says 'some' training and does not mean intense training. I think it would be the most stupid thing in Super if he becomes SSB so quick.

All I was thinking reading that summery was ''Damn it, Vegeta. JUST USE THE GOD DAMN RITUAL ON HIM!"

Also, maybe Black isn't the green kai that whis and beerus go to meet, but a version of that kai that's in Future Trunk's timeline (I mean, if you traveled to another universe in another timeline, would you be in a different timeline in the universe you travel to?)

[SuperSaiyanBatman]

Episode 51, sinopsis appeared in the Fuji TV site. Can someone translate this?:

もう一台のタイムマシンは、かつてセルが乗ってきたものだった！希望を抱くトランクスは「マイ」が未来のマイと同一人物という事に気付き、未来の出来事を語る。

Link: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

Glancing from google translate, the jist is that they found the Time Machine Cell arrived in, and Future Trunks realizes the kid Mai and the Mai he knows are the same person and they talk about it, apparently, which is basically part of the magazine paragraph's description, but only part of it

[namekiansaiyan]

If Zamasu and Black are the same person, why would a kaioshin from U10 have any interest in destroying the future-U6? Mind your own damn business man!

I would guess something like he thinks universe 7 done something to his homeland which could be in one of the destroyed universes. Someone told him that but is probably not true and the person who did tell him is the main villain.

But still, doesn't make sense that he would go to the Future U7 instead of present time U7.

All this happened in the future, he is originally from the future and maybe that is why when they go to universe 10 Zamasu knows nothing aboit it because it has only happened in the future so far.

[sintzu]

Vegeta couldn't really train Trunks into Super Saiyan 3, it'd be weird to teach someone into a form that you can't use.

If he's strong enough to reach Ssjb on his own without the ritual then he can use Ssj3.

[SuperSaiyanBatman]

Vegeta couldn't really train Trunks into Super Saiyan 3, it'd be weird to teach someone into a form that you can't use.

If he's strong enough to reach Ssjb on his own without the ritual then he can use Ssj3.

I agree. The main difference between the golden haired Super Saiyan forms (3 especially) is just Ki control, right?

It would make more sense for Future Trunks anyway unless he gets to go into the RoSaT for training, again, though well, he could. Time crunch, I mean.

Then I guess it's perspective on the merchandise side and well, story side of whether or not they'd wanna give Trunks SSBlue or not. If he got SSJ3 at least, maybe making it better than Goku or Gotenks' version even, would be better, so he has his own thing while still letting Super Saiyan Blue be a Goku/Vegeta thing while keeping Future Trunks from being...too strong or anything.

[sintzu]

I agree. The main difference between the golden haired Super Saiyan forms (3 especially) is just Ki control, right?

It would make more sense for Future Trunks anyway unless he gets to go into the RoSaT for training, again, though well, he could. Time crunch, I mean.

Ki was the main problem Goku had so with Vegeta being as strong as him and having full Ki control I think they'd both be able to use it without any problems.

Even if he used the ROSAT, I don't think Vegeta or even Goku can train him in the same way Whis trained them.

[SuperSaiyanBatman]

I agree. The main difference between the golden haired Super Saiyan forms (3 especially) is just Ki control, right?

It would make more sense for Future Trunks anyway unless he gets to go into the RoSaT for training, again, though well, he could. Time crunch, I mean.

Ki was the main problem Goku had so with Vegeta being as strong as him and having full Ki control I think they'd both be able t use it without any problems.

Even if he used the ROSAT, I don't think Vegeta or even Goku can train him in the same way Whis trained them.

Yeah, I agree, I'm still 20 episodes or so behind so I haven't seen post Super Saiyan Blue SSJ3 Goku and his control, but, yeah I agree with that, but I guess there might be some other, undefined reason why it's not used as often, besides real world stuff I guess?

That's true, yeah. With that idea from earlier I had, I do wonder if they'll give Trunks his own different version of Super Saiyan 3, maybe. All speculation but who knows.

[sintzu]

I guess there might be some other, undefined reason why it's not used as often, besides real world stuff I guess ?

They have Ssjb which is A LOT stronger so there's no reason to use it other then for training or maybe testing someone like what Goku did with Ssj2.

If Goku used SsjB he would've finished Black with on hit.