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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:05 am

Episode 53 has a fight in it, Hopefully Ishikawa gives us something good.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by dhaval_dongre » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:09 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Episode 53 has a fight in it, Hopefully Ishikawa gives us something good.
Is it the episode where they are gonna reveal Black's identity ?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by Ajay » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:37 am

So we just got confirmation that next week is indeed Kitano. Let's hope the episode is largely the quality of the preview, then!

Kitano, Yashima, Ishikawa, Shimanuki... and then either Tate or Onishi/Toma will pop up. Hopefully the latter. Tate should be busy on a big episode, hopefully.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by dhaval_dongre » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:42 am

Ajay wrote:So we just got confirmation that next week is indeed Kitano. Let's hope the episode is largely the quality of the preview, then!

Kitano, Yashima, Ishikawa, Shimanuki ...and then either Tate or Onishi/Toma will pop up. Hopefully the latter. Tate should be busy on a big episode, hopefully.
I would also like to see Takamura Kaoru, Nobuzane Setsuko and the other Shimanuki back again. Probably these 3 will be involved with the regulars, because I don't think they will be doing the episodes all by themselves obviously. Oh there's also Ken Otsuka.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by BakaManiaHD » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:56 pm

Wow, the Kami Sama Explorer website just uploaded this picture. It is said that this scene is from the episode 52 of Dragon Ball Super.
Could it be fake? Because i can't see any similar frame from any dragon ball games/movies/oav.
Judging by it's quality,I dont think that's real. What do you guys think?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by kinisking » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:26 pm

BakaManiaHD wrote:Wow, the Kami Sama Explorer website just uploaded this picture. It is said that this scene is from the episode 52 of Dragon Ball Super.
Could it be fake? Because i can't see any similar frame from any dragon ball games/movies/oav.
Judging by it's quality,I dont think that's real. What do you guys think?

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It makes sense if future trunks is reminiscing about future gohan. Also, super has definitely had scenes as good looking as that. Only problem is that this is a Yashima episode so I doubt it'd look that good
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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:33 pm

BakaManiaHD wrote:Wow, the Kami Sama Explorer website just uploaded this picture. It is said that this scene is from the episode 52 of Dragon Ball Super.
Could it be fake? Because i can't see any similar frame from any dragon ball games/movies/oav.
Judging by it's quality,I dont think that's real. What do you guys think?

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If it's real, I am so glad they went with that look instead of the ugly manga style Future Gohan had.
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Post by Sodhi » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:35 pm

kinisking wrote: Image
It makes sense if future trunks is reminiscing about future gohan. Also, super has definitely had scenes as good looking as that. Only problem is that this is a Yashima episode so I doubt it'd look that good
Yep, this does not look anything that we would expect from a yashima's episode.

Edit: Well actually I take that back. He does look to have pointy nose and mouth looks like something from yashima.

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Post by neolux » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:46 pm

Sodhi wrote:
kinisking wrote: Image
It makes sense if future trunks is reminiscing about future gohan. Also, super has definitely had scenes as good looking as that. Only problem is that this is a Yashima episode so I doubt it'd look that good
Yep, this does not look anything that we would expect from a yashima's episode.

Edit: Well actually I take that back. He does look to have pointy nose and mouth looks like something from yashima.
wow, based on that pic, it gives me hope that episode 52 may actually look really good...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by kinisking » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:21 pm

neolux wrote:
Sodhi wrote:
kinisking wrote: Image
It makes sense if future trunks is reminiscing about future gohan. Also, super has definitely had scenes as good looking as that. Only problem is that this is a Yashima episode so I doubt it'd look that good
Yep, this does not look anything that we would expect from a yashima's episode.

Edit: Well actually I take that back. He does look to have pointy nose and mouth looks like something from yashima.
wow, based on that pic, it gives me hope that episode 52 may actually look really good...
Lol don't put your hopes up. This is Yashima. It might look good, but definitely not THAT good.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by Grimlock » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:37 pm

We'll probably see Future Gohan in the next episode's preview. We might be actually pretty cool if it turns out to be real, I kinda wasn't expecting them to remember him (maybe Xenoverse 2 marketing over him is the reason they remembered him :lol:). But it's good to know and see that Future Gohan may appear again.

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Post by kinisking » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:54 pm

Grimlock wrote:We'll probably see Future Gohan in the next episode's preview. We might be actually pretty cool if it turns out to be real, I kinda wasn't expecting them to remember him (maybe Xenoverse 2 marketing over him is the reason they remembered him :lol:). But it's good to know and see that Future Gohan may appear again.
It's surprising what they remember these days.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:17 am

It's always possible that that could be a frame from Xenoverse 2's opening, but it wouldn't actually be the first time a shot from an upcoming episode came out before it aired.
kinisking wrote: It makes sense if future trunks is reminiscing about future gohan. Also, super has definitely had scenes as good looking as that. Only problem is that this is a Yashima episode so I doubt it'd look that good
Keep in mind that the last episode by Yashima had stuff like this.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #50]

Post by Ajay » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:37 am

That sure is a Yashima nose and ear. Interesting. I wonder what the source is -- did they mine Toei's website?

It may well be another KA that's been corrected as ArchedThunder points out, and I do think that's the most likely case, but Yashima is also a very competent animator who also can draw on-model if he wants. He began developing his own (unpleasant) style fairly late into the series, but if you look back at scenes in episode 9, 15 and 22, you can see they're perfectly fine.

After all, he did draw this:
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He's a really good animator -- if he wasn't, he wouldn't be able to solo entire episodes as he's been doing. His action cuts in episode 46 were actually pretty nice, so presuming he's not soloing the episode, I wouldn't worry too much.

If it is another animator, it probably went something like this:

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Key animator hands his work in, Yashima scribbles a few corrections over the top of it so it fits with the rest of the episode, and... now it looks like him.

I still want to know where that image came from. That nose looks weirdly photoshopped, but I also don't recognise the rest of the image from anywhere.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:50 am

I'd love to know why Yashima's style changed after the F arc.
He soloed episode 3 didn't he? That episode looks pretty nice in terms of art.

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Post by Ajay » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:00 am

ArchedThunder wrote:I'd love to know why Yashima's style changed after the F arc.
He soloed episode 3 didn't he? That episode looks pretty nice in terms of art.
Satsuki Aizu was also a key animator, but just about, yeah. Though I do think those first three episodes had hands from all over touching them just to get them finished.

Not really sure why it changed, honestly. The best thing I can come up with is that he wanted a signature look to his episodes -- much like Tate -- where you know it's his work just by a certain unique feature. In this case, it's his extremely pointy noses.

The rest isn't massively different, but it all feels a lot more unrefined these days.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:11 am

I really dislike the way Yashima draws Goku's regular hair now, it's especially bad in 40 and 46. I'd be a lot more pleased if he just went back to doing the noses and Goku's hair like he used to.
Also are you sure that's a Yashima nose on that Future Gohan picture? It looks way too small to me to be Yashima.

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Post by Psykomatik » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:58 am

These leaks are real. They come from Fuji TV website.
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

They're playing with the URL of the picture from the upcoming episode. That's how they get a pic of Future Trunks from #49 weeks before the episode airs.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:06 am

Psykomatik wrote:These leaks are real. They come from Fuji TV website.
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

They're playing with the URL of the picture from the upcoming episode. That's how they get a pic of Future Trunks from #49 weeks before the episode airs.
If that the case, this better be a dream, hallucination or a flashback of some sorts from Future Trunks, because if Future Gohan was really brought back to life somehow, I'm going flip so many fucking tables.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:13 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
Psykomatik wrote:These leaks are real. They come from Fuji TV website.
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

They're playing with the URL of the picture from the upcoming episode. That's how they get a pic of Future Trunks from #49 weeks before the episode airs.
If that the case, this better be a dream, hallucination or a flashback of some sorts from Future Trunks, because if Future Gohan was really brought back to life somehow, I'm going flip so many fucking tables.
It's the only way Gohan can do anything ever again: he must die so the other one can replace him :P
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