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[Fionordequester]

She makes it look easy by being more skillful in Ki control, intelligent and efficient in her movements. In any case, he's not that much faster and she's doing it more to his Ki attacks than him.

So basically, comparing her to Cold is like comparing an Olypmic sprinter to Bruce Lee; the sprinter may be faster, but Bruce Lee is still going to be running circles around him when it comes to footwork and evasive manuevers.

[rereboy]

She makes it look easy by being more skillful in Ki control, intelligent and efficient in her movements. In any case, he's not that much faster and she's doing it more to his Ki attacks than him.

So basically, comparing her to Cold is like comparing an Olypmic sprinter to Bruce Lee; the sprinter may be faster, but Bruce Lee is still going to be running circles around him when it comes to footwork and evasive manuevers.

Yeah, more or less, even though she is only doing it to his Ki attacks so far. Basically she is doing more with less, she is being more skillful, more efficient, more intelligent.

[Fionordequester]

Ok, I've gotta know; do female gym shorts really emphasize your crack THAT much? Or is that something that has to be custom made to do so?

[BlazingBarrrager]

Repelling Cold's attacks while adding her own in. Definitely clever.

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Ok, I've gotta know; do female gym shorts really emphasize your crack THAT much? Or is that something that has to be custom made to do so?

I'd say these are custom (probably made by Piccolo) to insure that she has as much freedom in mobility as possible since even clothing can reduce a person's agility and mobility, especially loose clothing.

[ryou766]

Not that I have a problem with it, regardless. Those Bra shots are damn good.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Not that I have a problem with it, regardless. Those Bra shots are damn good.

Agreed.

[ekrolo2]

Goku's genes are definitely shining through for Bra this battle. If Vegeta was caught in this kind of predicament he'd crash and fucking burn under the pressure.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Goku's genes are definitely shining through for Bra this battle. If Vegeta was caught in this kind of predicament he'd crash and fucking burn under the pressure.

Eh...I wouldn't completely call Vegeta out on that. He may be very arrogant and prideful, but he isn't stupid and is actually more of a tactical genius than Goku. His fight with #19 is a great example of that tactical thinking of his.

[Kamiccolo9]

Goku's genes are definitely shining through for Bra this battle. If Vegeta was caught in this kind of predicament he'd crash and fucking burn under the pressure.

Eh...I wouldn't completely call Vegeta out on that. He may be very arrogant and prideful, but he isn't stupid and is actually more of a tactical genius than Goku. His fight with #19 is a great example of that tactical thinking of his.

The one where he let himself get weakened to the point that he had to rely on bluffing Gero so he wouldn't get killed?

[saiyanvegetable]

Goku's genes are definitely shining through for Bra this battle. If Vegeta was caught in this kind of predicament he'd crash and fucking burn under the pressure.

Eh...I wouldn't completely call Vegeta out on that. He may be very arrogant and prideful, but he isn't stupid and is actually more of a tactical genius than Goku. His fight with #19 is a great example of that tactical thinking of his.

The one where he let himself get weakened to the point that he had to rely on bluffing Gero so he wouldn't get killed?

You mean discovering the android's ability to drain energy and absorb ki blasts, finding out exactly what to avoid, gauging his opponent's strength and successfully bluffing his enemy?

Uhh..yes. And don't forget Namek.

[Kamiccolo9]

Eh...I wouldn't completely call Vegeta out on that. He may be very arrogant and prideful, but he isn't stupid and is actually more of a tactical genius than Goku. His fight with #19 is a great example of that tactical thinking of his.

The one where he let himself get weakened to the point that he had to rely on bluffing Gero so he wouldn't get killed?

You mean discovering the android's ability to drain energy and absorb ki blasts, finding out exactly what to avoid, gauging his opponent's strength and successfully bluffing his enemy?

Uhh..yes. And don't forget Namek.

He already knew about the android's ability to drain energy. He watched the fight with Goku. He was just showing off.

Taking extra risks when they are not necessary is not brilliant strategic thinking. He was okay on Namek, but he has no good showings in the Cell Arc.

[ryou766]

I'm seeing a lot of hate towards Bra as a character in the comments. Not that I'm a fan of her either, but damn.

[Saiga]

Goku's genes are definitely shining through for Bra this battle. If Vegeta was caught in this kind of predicament he'd crash and fucking burn under the pressure.

Eh...I wouldn't completely call Vegeta out on that. He may be very arrogant and prideful, but he isn't stupid and is actually more of a tactical genius than Goku. His fight with #19 is a great example of that tactical thinking of his.

The one where he let himself get weakened to the point that he had to rely on bluffing Gero so he wouldn't get killed?

The one where he did so in order to remove the Android's ability to absorb his ki blasts so he could immediately end the fight by blowing him up.

edit: I mean, he's not a super genius because Toriyama doesn't manage to write his characters that smart. But he has a better showing than most in the manga and is intended to be a more intelligent fighter, even if Toriyama can't quite execute it.

And this in regards to the original assertion that Vegeta would somehow crash under the pressure of this situation. Which is completely silly, because what Bra is doing isn't particularly inspired and definitely within the scope of even the Toriyama-written Vegeta.

[RandomGuy96]

The one where he did so in order to remove the Android's ability to absorb his ki blasts so he could immediately end the fight by blowing him up.

Piccolo literally sliced Gero's arm off with a karate chop, clearly Vegeta didn't need to let himself get drained just to destroy #19's arms.

[sintzu]

I don't know if this was brought up but does anyone remember this from Cold's fight with Bardock ?

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en ... tml#h_read

It think she finds away to get a massive power up and completely destroy him

[rereboy]

He already knew about the android's ability to drain energy. He watched the fight with Goku. He was just showing off.

He didn't know exactly how they did it. Only after that did he found out that they did with the tiny orbs they had in their palms. Before that he didn't know how or what to exactly avoid in order to not have his energy drained.

The one where he did so in order to remove the Android's ability to absorb his ki blasts so he could immediately end the fight by blowing him up.

He did it to confirm exactly how they drained energy. He didn't need that to defeat #19, but without that knowledge, his ignorance could be an important factor in his fight with #20 after spending some energy taking care of #19. He preferred to sacrifice even more of his energy to confirm exactly how they did it, knowing that he would become weak but also knowing that the gang had senzu beans.

And, as we saw, he took the risk but, as he expected, he managed to confirm how they took energy and then intimidate #20 enough to take a senzu without opposition, making him at full power and knowing exactly how they drained energy, and thus at a prime position to finish the job.

Unfortunately for him, he miscalculated how hard it would be to catch #20 without being able to sense him and he wasn't aware that there were more androids much more powerful than #20 at the lab.

[Saiga]

When he finds out how 19 absorbs energy, the very next thing Vegeta says is that 19 can't do it anymore. And then he finishes him off with the BBA.

From that, I am fairly sure that part of his plan was to stop 19's energy stealing so he could finish him off.

@Random Yes, but Vegeta did that in one maneuver and without 19 expecting it. He also didn't know exactly what to expect like Piccolo did.

[rereboy]

When he finds out how 19 absorbs energy, the very next thing Vegeta says is that 19 can't do it anymore. And then he finishes him off with the BBA.

From that, I am fairly sure that part of his plan was to stop 19's energy stealing so he could finish him off.

Understanding how it worked also helped agaisnt #19, sure, but if there was just one Android I doubt Vegeta would have been so concerned with understanding exactly how it worked and he would probably just try to destroy #19 with a close range ki blast or something like that. He was thinking of the long game agaisnt both.

[BlazingBarrrager]

NOW we have Bra's advantage in speed starting to take effect...well that and Cold's impatience.

When he finds out how 19 absorbs energy, the very next thing Vegeta says is that 19 can't do it anymore. And then he finishes him off with the BBA.

From that, I am fairly sure that part of his plan was to stop 19's energy stealing so he could finish him off.

Understanding how it worked also helped agaisnt #19, sure, but if there was just one Android I doubt Vegeta would have been so concerned with understanding exactly how it worked and he would probably just try to destroy #19 with a close range ki blast or something like that. He was thinking of the long game agaisnt both.

And let's not forget that Piccolo himself explained how Vegeta's tactical thinking both got him a win and sent the other one running. He even went as far as to say he could beat Goku because of this trait.
...or at least that's what I think he said. Nonetheless, for Piccolo to give Vegeta of all people credit at that time definitely means something.

[FoolsGil]

Man, this chapter of Prince of Tennis is quite riveting.