"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Zephyr]

It's interesting how anytime someone says they like or miss Faulconer on these forums, you get two-three replies stating how it never fit or how terrible it is. It's like people get defensive cause it replaced Kikuchi. lol.

Or they're having a conversation. There's even someone agreeing with the sentiment, and another who disagrees but also saying that they can see why people enjoy it.

[sintzu]

I find it interesting that Goku Black was sucked back into his timeline. That pretty much debunked my theory that he was from a distant future. They have so much explaining to do with this character, I'm actually very curious with the direction they go.

What I'm most interested in is why he wants all humans dead, we know U6's earth was destroyed by them so maybe he lived there so he wants to prevent it from happening again.

This is another reason to keep him alive cause he's not the typical bad guy who wants to destroy everything, he thinks he's doing the right thing by protecting the universe from humans and if it's because of what happened to U6's earth then he might not be wrong for doing what he's doing.

If Toriyama could take someone as bad as Vegeta or Piccolo and develop them into interesting characters then he can do that and more with Black so killing him off would be a huge mistake.

[ekrolo2]

I find it interesting that Goku Black was sucked back into his timeline. That pretty much debunked my theory that he was from a distant future. They have so much explaining to do with this character, I'm actually very curious with the direction they go.

What I'm most interested in is why he wants all humans dead, we know U6's earth was destroyed by them so maybe he lived there so he wants to prevent it from happening again.

This is another reason to keep him alive cause he's not the typical bad guy who wants to destroy everything, he thinks he's doing the right thing by protecting the universe from humans and if it's because of what happened to U6's earth then he might not be wrong for doing what he's doing.

If Toriyama could take someone as bad as Vegeta or Piccolo and develop them into interesting characters then he can do that and more with Black so killing him off would be a huge mistake.

Agreed, Black is shaping up to be the next Baby, a guy who's doing these things for an understandable motivation instead of just for DUR EVILZ! like everyone else in Z was.

[dbzfan7]

I find it interesting that Goku Black was sucked back into his timeline. That pretty much debunked my theory that he was from a distant future. They have so much explaining to do with this character, I'm actually very curious with the direction they go.

What I'm most interested in is why he wants all humans dead, we know U6's earth was destroyed by them so maybe he lived there so he wants to prevent it from happening again.

This is another reason to keep him alive cause he's not the typical bad guy who wants to destroy everything, he thinks he's doing the right thing by protecting the universe from humans and if it's because of what happened to U6's earth then he might not be wrong for doing what he's doing.

If Toriyama could take someone as bad as Vegeta or Piccolo and develop them into interesting characters then he can do that and more with Black so killing him off would be a huge mistake.

Agreed, Black is shaping up to be the next Baby, a guy who's doing these things for an understandable motivation instead of just for DUR EVILZ! like everyone else in Z was.

Also Nozawa hits it out of the park as a villain. She makes me like Black a hell of a lot more than Goku.

[sintzu]

Also Nozawa hits it out of the park as a villain. She makes me like Black a hell of a lot more than Goku.

I also like Black more than Goku but that's due to Goku being written as a complete retarded idiot compared to the serious badass he was in Z.

The seriousness black brings to the story is something Super severely needs so that alone should be enough to keep him around but due to Super's light hearted nature, I wouldn't be surprised if that's why he gets killed off at the end.

[Anime Kitten]

At this rate, I don't see any improvement in Goku's personality, so I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. At least he's usually a lot better when he's using Super Saiyan Blue.

[ekrolo2]

.Also Nozawa hits it out of the park as a villain. She makes me like Black a hell of a lot more than Goku.

I was skeptical about her doing it as I don't like her Tullece or Bardock but the more reserved, soft-spoken way she's portraying him really, really works. Even when he's being more overtly nasty she doesn't start hamming his voice up.

[sintzu]

At this rate, I don't see any improvement in Goku's personality, so I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

I'm not, I just hope Black sticks around to keep the tone a bit serious but I won't be surprised if he's killed off cause Toei are very afraid of a serious tone for some reason.

If you don't believe me just look at this :



An epic image that depicts what was suppose to be a serious arc but it looks like someone at Toei saw it a few minutes before it aired and Photoshoped those 5 into it to distract the viewers from what it's really trying to be.

[Anime Kitten]

Wow. They care about this arc being serious a lot less than I thought. And if the next one is Zeno's tournament, then we probably still won't get much improvement.

[ekrolo2]

Has Goten even showed up in this arc?

[sintzu]

Has Goten even showed up in this arc?

He had a small cameo when Trunks arrived.

[Anime Kitten]

Has Goten even showed up in this arc?

He had a small cameo when Trunks arrived.

And he was being forced to study by Chi-Chi in EP47.

[dbzfan7]

Has Goten even showed up in this arc?

He was stopped by Chi Chi to focus on his studies. Where have I heard that before?

[ekrolo2]

Has Goten even showed up in this arc?

He was stopped by Chi Chi to focus on his studies. Where have I heard that before?

Which is weird since Chi-Chi used to treat Goten as the disposable one, the one who can get away with being a meat head now that her first project, Gohan, was a resounding success.

[Kagari]

I guess they couldn't think of anything else to do with his character so now he's just getting the Gohan retread.

[sintzu]

Which is weird since Chi-Chi used to treat Goten as the disposable one.

That's how Super is with everyone, they'll take a characteristic and amplify it 10× and have it be their only characteristic without thinking twice about it making sense or not.

[ekrolo2]

Which is weird since Chi-Chi used to treat Goten as the disposable one.

That's how Super is with everyone, they'll take a characteristic and amplify it 10× and have it be their only characteristic without thinking twice about it making sense or not.

Another reason why Battle of Gods should've been the prologue, beginning, middle, end, epilogue, forced sequel/reboot of the "Dragon Ball revival". Its the last one that had fucking something to say about a member of its cast. Several of them in-fact, F tried it but that went nowhere in its own story and sure as hell didn't in proceeding events.

[Anime Kitten]

I'm probably in the very small minority here, but does anyone think Frieza or someone like him should come back again, maybe when Goku and Vegeta aren't there? It'd be great character development as far as not relying on the strongest fighters available go.

[Kagari]

I'm probably in the very small minority here, but does anyone think Frieza or someone like him should come back again, maybe when Goku and Vegeta aren't there? It'd be great character development as far as not relying on the strongest fighters available go.

We had this happen to an extent in Resurrection F though. The only difference is Goku/Vegeta showed up later on while the Z Fighters kept Freeza's army busy for a bit.

I do agree those two need to go off-screen for a bit if the other characters 1) won't get a power boost 2) to give characters like Piccolo and Krillin relevancy again.

[sintzu]

Another reason why Battle of Gods should've been the prologue, beginning, middle, end, epilogue, forced sequel/reboot of the "Dragon Ball revival".

Its the last one that had fucking something to say about a member of its cast. Several of them in-fact.

F tried it but that went nowhere in its own story and sure as hell didn't in proceeding events.

It wasn't made as a revival but more of a celebration and a one time thing, the only reason they continued was because of how successful it was and it really shows cause everything afterwords feels like they're throwing random ideas at a wall and hoping that something sticks which wouldn't be the case if they planned on continuing after BOG.

It had great development for them and felt like the natural next step and also a conclusion cause it brought back the concept of there always being someone stronger which was lost when Goku defeated Buu.

There's so much F could've done but you could tell they had no idea what they were doing.