Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

[dbzfan7]

I just don't want them to retire his character HERE of all places. If they're going to, at least give him a final moment to remember him by. As opposed to having us remember him being tortured by Freeza and calling for help as his final great acts.

yeah yeah, Yamcha didn't get something like that, but I'd like to believe this series has gotten a bit nicer to its characters.

Yeah being a glorified bat signal is a pretty shitty way to go out. I still remember how Roshi had a badass moment with Daimao before being done, and even before that had a cool passing of the torch to Tenshinhan. I also remember Tenshinhan looking pretty awesome before going out in the Cell arc. So it's the bat signal, or basically being a quitter is his final moment. He makes a vow in the anime, which looks to potentially be dropped. What kind of final moment is that? "I want to protect my family, Piccolo please help me." "Fuck it, daddy protect me again just like the good ol days when I was 5 years old."

[Beyond]

Gohan final moment would just be like him vs buu or Piccolo vs Frost. In both instances these character were going to win( Gohan through out muscling and Piccolo through brains) but at the end of the day they didn't. Gohan should have learned his lesson from cell and just ended Buu no BS. Gohan and Piccolo are in the same boat whether you like it or not. Piccolo is a almost a slave at this point, and Gohan is a family man with a whacky hero persona. If episode 52 makes me eat my words, I won't even be mad. I just don't have any faith in that happening. I'm just praying for some nice interaction episodes at this point.

[Shinomori]

When will everyone just accept that Gohan is a retired fighter? Forget all that stuff concerning training with Piccolo. The manga was more canon here in that Gohan never asked Piccolo to train him anyway. Yet besides all that, how will training with him make Gohan stronger? Nope, let Gohan be with his family in peace. I keep telling yall, Pan is the new Gohan. Hope that she will inherit Goku's fighting spirit.

[fadeddreams5]

Piccolo losing to Frost was a thousand times worse than Gohan losing against Buu. Gohan was actually winning, but Buu turned out to be more cunning than he appeared.

In Piccolo's case, he literally went into that battle claiming he's a strategist, only to be caught by the same trick Goku was caught with. There could have been some saving grace if, after he lost, he was the one to unmask Frost, but he didn't even get that. That was literally the worst fight in Super.

[namekiansaiyan]

Piccolo losing to Frost was a thousand times worse than Gohan losing against Buu. Gohan was actually winning, but Buu turned out to be more cunning than he appeared.

In Piccolo's case, he literally went into that battle claiming he's a strategist, only to be caught by the same trick Goku was caught with. There could have been some saving grace if, after he lost, he was the one to unmask Frost, but he didn't even get that. That was literally the worst fight in Super.

How was Piccolo losing, Frost even said he would have won without him cheating. The worst fight was Vegeta vs Cabba as it was just a training session.

When will everyone just accept that Gohan is a retired fighter? Forget all that stuff concerning training with Piccolo. The manga was more canon here in that Gohan never asked Piccolo to train him anyway. Yet besides all that, how will training with him make Gohan stronger? Nope, let Gohan be with his family in peace. I keep telling yall, Pan is the new Gohan. Hope that she will inherit Goku's fighting spirit.

If nothing happens about him doing some training during epiaode 52 then everyone will probably shut up.

[fadeddreams5]

He lost by not figuring Frost out even though he's supposed to be the savant. How cool would it have been if after Frost injected him, Piccolo ripped off his own arm to stop the poison from spreading, and unmasked Frost, disqualifying him then and there. It would have been a double win for Piccolo.

[namekiansaiyan]

He lost by not figuring Frost out even though he's supposed to be the savant. How cool would it have been if after Frost injected him, Piccolo ripped off his own arm to stop the poison from spreading, and unmasked Frost, disqualifying him then and there. It would have been a double win for Piccolo.

Thay could have been decent but he had no time to react to it as it happend too quick and for some reason Toriyama had to have Vegeta one shot Frost.
There is always the possible rematch in the 12 universe tournament.

[MozillaVulpix]

When will everyone just accept that Gohan is a retired fighter? Forget all that stuff concerning training with Piccolo. The manga was more canon here in that Gohan never asked Piccolo to train him anyway. Yet besides all that, how will training with him make Gohan stronger? Nope, let Gohan be with his family in peace. I keep telling yall, Pan is the new Gohan. Hope that she will inherit Goku's fighting spirit.

Because they brought him back in RF. I think that's the issue here. They brought him back as a fighter in RF, and Super made a conscious decision to expand on that to make it look like he was getting sort of character development from that experience. If RF hadn't happened, I wouldn't have had as much of an issue. In Battle of Gods, he's almost strictly spectator material (and sort of a Worf, because he was strong enough to work as that). Having him retire after Battle of Gods kind of makes sense. He could retire because he realises Goku is way stronger than him, and he might not be able to catch up this time. If they did the ritual on him, it's likely he wouldn't be able to keep the SSG powers after it faded.

But RF threw him a bone, and it looked like they were going to do something with it. Why else would they make him WEAKER, when that didn't need to happen for the plot to progress the way it did? That's why people think Gohan is going to do something later on. Not just because of him training.

[Shinomori]

Gohan probably won't get involved with the fight against Goku Black. Since Goku Black is not directly threatening the present, I doubt Gohan will leave his family to travel to the future. It is more than likely Gohan will join the tournament between the universes. That will be his last hoorah as a fighter.

I do believe that scene at the end of the RoF arc where Gohan asked Piccolo to train him will be very misleading. The movie didn't have that scene, and neither did the manga. Ultimately, nothing will come from it in terms of Gohan having a major fight against an enemy. Those days are officially over in my estimation.

[precita]

To be honest I wonder if the NEXT arc after this Black arc ends will focus on Gohan. This arc seems focused on Trunks leaving little room for Gohan, but I can see a Gohan dedicated arc coming up.

For all we know Gohan might also enter the next tournament Champa has set up.

[Yomi]

[sintzu]

To be honest I wonder if the NEXT arc after this Black arc ends will focus on Gohan. This arc seems focused on Trunks leaving little room for Gohan, but I can see a Gohan dedicated arc coming up.

For all we know Gohan might also enter the next tournament Champa has set up.

Trunks plays a major role in their video games so it makes sense to give him his own arc, Gohan doesn't have anything going for him so the chances of him getting an arc are slim to none. actually, the chances of him playing a role in any arc are slim to none at this point.

[Lord Beerus]

You could apply that to several characters in Dragon Ball.

[precita]

Gohan at least has a very likely chance to be used again.

Even Goten has no hope of getting any development.

[Kagari]

Gohan at least has a very likely chance to be used again.

Even Goten has no hope of getting any development.

Yeah, he's still really popular so there's a chance.
Poor Goten though, he never got the build up he should have.

[precita]

With Goten it doesn't matter much because its not like his character was ever being built up for something. He was largely created to give Trunks a friend and then eventually for Gotenks once Toriyama created the idea of Fusion.

If there's ever a time skip I'd love to see teenage Goten do something important like from the EOZ, but if he's still a kid it doesn't matter

[Shinomori]

I think people would be less caring about Gohan if the show did a time skip. Right now you still have pretty much the same cast of characters as they were back in the latter end of DBZ. At that time, Gohan still had a big role in fighting against the main enemy, which was Buu. (Or "Boo" for some. It seems like recently more and more people are writing his name as Boo, though I don't know if that was the original intention of Toriyama or not to spell it like that) So here we are, waiting for Gohan to play a similar role because he is still pretty much the same age. If they did a time skip, people would be more interested with the progress of some of the younger characters. I've always been interested to see Pan's development myself. To see if she could take up Goku's mantle. For that reason, I seriously hope they do a time skip before the omni universal tournament. Gohan's done guys, but Pan has way more potential.

[NitroEX]

I think people would be less caring about Gohan if the show did a time skip. Right now you still have pretty much the same cast of characters as they were back in the latter end of DBZ. At that time, Gohan still had a big role in fighting against the main enemy, which was Buu. So here we are, waiting for Gohan to play a similar role because he is still pretty much the same age. If they did a time skip, people would be more interested with the progress of some of the younger characters. I've always been interested to see Pan's development myself. To see if she could take up Goku's mantle. For that reason, I seriously hope they do a time skip before the omni universal tournament. Gohan's done guys, but Pan has way more potential.

You seriously expect them to put the spotlight on Pan (or any of the young characters) after what they did to Gohan and Gotenks? The precedent has already been set, no one is allowed to touch Goku or Vegeta in terms of screen time, power or respect. Pan has no chance of doing anything worthwhile ever again, much less "take up Goku's mantle". Hell, she wasn't even allowed to do anything worthwhile in GT and she was one of the main characters!

Time Skip or not, the current handling of Gohan is unacceptable and fans have every right to voice their displeasure at it. The writers of Super (and Toriyama, if he's the one coming up with most of this stuff) are out of their minds with the demotion of good cast members as there's seemingly no logic to any of it. In the end they're only shortening the longevity of their own franchise by dismantling what few interesting characters they had in favour of an old, dying act.

Also, let's not pretend that Gohan's mishandling in the new material was the only possible way to make Goku and Vegeta stronger. Any fan could easily come up with a more plausible and more respectful path to that goal but instead, what we got was them treating fans like idiots and pretending Gohan's power somehow went away without even bothering to give us an in depth, justifiable explanation or a valid story reason for it. At the end of the day, if fans can see something is poorly executed, they're going to criticise it. Shocking I know.

Rocketman said it best really;

In the end, it's not that Goku has surpassed Gohan (although by this point I am rather tired of GOKU BESTEST NO MATTER WHAT). It's the at best lazy, at worst deceitful way they do it.

[Kishido]

Everyone ready for this week's episode?

I'm prepared for the worst

[dbgtFO]

Everyone ready for this week's episode?

I'm prepared for the worst

It will be a sweet little episode, where Trunks will come to terms with the fact, that this Gohan is way different, than the one he trained under.

Trunks might then day dream about getting a family with Mai, if Black hadn't attacked.
I don't think they'll make fun of Gohan more than necessary. Only the Saiyaman bit Leans towards the some what embarrasing and even that isn't really that big a deal to be up set about, if you ask me.

So I'm actually Looking forward to it.