Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Grimlock » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:54 pm

In this case, I'll stick with the first one.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Ajay » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:04 pm

Out of those, then the original, definitely.

Funnily enough, I was playing around with recolouring today. Just went with Kai's colour palette since it's closest to the original cels by a large margin.

I took a couple of liberties with the designs, but I'm pretty happy.

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Bottom right's skin is a fraction too pink, but eh. It's only a mock-up.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:08 pm

Ajay wrote:He's solo animated several episodes now. I don't think you can really discredit that just because one person or TAP were involved in 2nd KA.

4, 9, 15, and even 28 if you wanna slightly push the definition of "solo".
I am not entirely sure those are just 2nd KA, though. Unless I am missing something.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by neolux » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:14 pm

Ajay wrote:Out of those, then the original, definitely.
haha so I made it even worse, lmao, haha, I don't know if you will answer but which software do you use to do the recoloring

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Ajay » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:15 pm

neolux wrote:haha so I made it even worse, lmao, haha, I don't know if you will answer but which software do you use to do the recoloring
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by A Man named RJ » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:47 pm

Ajay wrote:Out of those, then the original, definitely.

Funnily enough, I was playing around with recolouring today. Just went with Kai's colour palette since it's closest to the original cels by a large margin.

I took a couple of liberties with the designs, but I'm pretty happy.

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Bottom right's skin is a fraction too pink, but eh. It's only a mock-up.
I like it but on the bottom, I'm not a fan of that weird shadow on Goku's face (His right). That's where the light seems to be coming from, and all shadows are therefore cast on his left, so what's casting the shadow? The shading on the original is correct, just remove the highlight.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Ajay » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:51 pm

A Man named RJ wrote:I like it but on the bottom, I'm not a fan of that weird shadow on Goku's face (His right). That's where the light seems to be coming from, and all shadows are therefore cast on his left, so what's casting the shadow? The shading on the original is correct, just remove the highlight.
To me, the sun's coming from slightly above and to the left, so the huge fringe would cast a greater shadow down the face, defining it more. Goku's arm also casts a shadow on leg, indicating the source is higher too. You're entirely wrong though, I think you could go either way in this case. It looks very strange without any shadow there at all. It wasn't uncommon to shade like this in Z, so that's pretty much the perspective I'm taking on this.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Avok » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:57 pm

Looks good, specially the SS hair.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Sodhi » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:57 pm

Good job ajay. The only thing I would say is that I like darker colored skins on characters, like how toriyama portrays them and also I prefer dark yellow saiyan hair . Otherwise I like you color swap.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by A Man named RJ » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:58 pm

Ajay wrote:
A Man named RJ wrote:I like it but on the bottom, I'm not a fan of that weird shadow on Goku's face (His right). That's where the light seems to be coming from, and all shadows are therefore cast on his left, so what's casting the shadow? The shading on the original is correct, just remove the highlight.
To me, the sun's coming from slightly above and to the left, so the huge fringe would cast a greater shadow down the face, defining it more. Goku's arm also casts a shadow on leg, indicating the source is higher too. You're entirely wrong though, I think you could go either way in this case. It looks very strange without any shadow there at all. It wasn't uncommon to shade like this in Z, so that's pretty much the perspective I'm taking on this.
Well the shadow would be the Bang of hair and the part of his face between his eye and nose. (Basically any part of his face that caves inward). If the light source were directly above you'd have to add more shadows to the places around the body, and on his chest.

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Your other option is to make the left side have 2 shaded tones.

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Eitther way, it's an awesome color swap and I'd love to see this in the series., along with better animation ofc.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by neolux » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:43 pm

Just the elimination of highlights makes a great difference, by the way, does someone have the image where this same image of vegeta is redrawn in the z design? I need it so badly :D
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Noah » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:26 pm

Didn't catch any difference, but this pic reminded me of this comparison:


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God, the first one is so damn good, curse you Toei.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by kinisking » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:36 pm

Ajay wrote:Out of those, then the original, definitely.

Funnily enough, I was playing around with recolouring today. Just went with Kai's colour palette since it's closest to the original cels by a large margin.

I took a couple of liberties with the designs, but I'm pretty happy.

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Bottom right's skin is a fraction too pink, but eh. It's only a mock-up.
I vastly prefer the upper right to the upper left. The bottom one I might prefer the left.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by nite_jay » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:52 pm

I don't find the colors of Super too bad. For me, if they were too take away the facial highlights and make some of the clothing not as bright, then it would look pretty good.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by samuo2 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:03 pm

Same as nite_jay, colors arn't that bad for me.
Maybe the third shade, the highlight, is hating from a lot of people, but not a problem for me, it's typical in most of numeric's colorisation animes.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Shuby » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:07 pm

Why is Toei using such lifeless colors which does not suit Dragon ball? Is is easier to do? Or has it to do that they are digital now?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:29 pm

Shuby wrote:Why is Toei using such lifeless colors which does not suit Dragon ball? Is is easier to do? Or has it to do that they are digital now?
It has nothing to do with being digital an everything to do with bad taste.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by PMD » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:13 am

A Man named RJ wrote:
Ajay wrote:Out of those, then the original, definitely.

Funnily enough, I was playing around with recolouring today. Just went with Kai's colour palette since it's closest to the original cels by a large margin.

I took a couple of liberties with the designs, but I'm pretty happy.

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Bottom right's skin is a fraction too pink, but eh. It's only a mock-up.
I like it but on the bottom, I'm not a fan of that weird shadow on Goku's face (His right). That's where the light seems to be coming from, and all shadows are therefore cast on his left, so what's casting the shadow? The shading on the original is correct, just remove the highlight.
God, when I see these kind of works I'm depressed by how Toei use that light in the hair and the skin. WTF is that??!

Good work, Ajay, as always.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:25 am

The SS hair looks off in the recolour much prefer the original, but the rest looks better.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by neolux » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:25 pm

There you go, this time I tried with the colors that Ajay used. I even recolored some FNF shots. So I hope you guys like this recoloring :D
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