Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by saiyanvegetable » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:55 pm

FoolsGil wrote:So instead of explaining anything, another sub plot was added, worst, it has nothing to do with the planet Absalon. Great.
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miguelnuva1 wrote:Nothing makes me sadder for the fan base when I see people say that Absalon has a better plot and animation then Super. Number 1 Super's plot would be praised if we didn't get the movies before it and number two episode 5 of super looks as good or better than the best Absalon.

I like Absalon for what it is just like I like any other fanfiction but it's not as good as Super.
It's much more creative to be honest. There's a lot of fanservice but the characters seem to be better written and overall its much more entertaining. The fights rival Super's high point so I don't know what the complaint there is. It has much more of a cohesive plot than Super as welll..you're all either biased or..biased.
Hey, explain to me the point of Absalon. Why are the villains doing this? What is the point? Why are they so much stronger than our heroes? Because I don't understand this series at all. For all of Super's many faults Toei and Toriyama know story structure. 4 and a half episodes in 5 years-we know nada.
FIrst of all, it's 4 and a half episodes. That are like 3 minutes long. You're expecting a lot of exposition if you want all those questions answered.

Two, this is one guy. One man team. Seriously, think about it. (*even if he is kind of a dick)

Absalon isn't a masterpiece. The dialogue is cheesy as hell, the dub is terrible, and people are right when it's gone down the "Dragonball Doomsday" route. But it's an interesting take that doesn't fuck with the main canon, has really entertaining fights, and doesn't try to be anything it's not. It's GT on steroids. It is what it is - one guy who loves Dragonball Z and saw The Dark Knight probably like a hundred times.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Dbzk1999 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:09 am

saiyanvegetable wrote: FIrst of all, it's 4 and a half episodes. That are like 3 minutes long. You're expecting a lot of exposition if you want all those questions answered.

Two, this is one guy. One man team. Seriously, think about it. (*even if he is kind of a dick)

Absalon isn't a masterpiece. The dialogue is cheesy as hell, the dub is terrible, and people are right when it's gone down the "Dragonball Doomsday" route. But it's an interesting take that doesn't fuck with the main canon, has really entertaining fights, and doesn't try to be anything it's not. It's GT on steroids. It is what it is - one guy who loves Dragonball Z and saw The Dark Knight probably like a hundred times.
Three minutes long? Are you being dishonest or have you forgotten how long the episodes are? Every single one so far has ranged from about 15-20 minutes

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Yomi » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:21 pm

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FIrst of all, it's 4 and a half episodes. That are like 3 minutes long. You're expecting a lot of exposition if you want all those questions answered.
The way everyone is acting edgy all the time makes me cringe in absalon.
Also, It's been 4 years and we have no story what so ever. Every time I click on an episode or clip
it's just someone getting a power up and fighting. How is that interesting? Super Mystic Mode,
Super Nightmare mode, Super Saiyan 6, Super Solar Namek, Super Saiyan 5, incomplete mystic 4.

Like what the hell? Where did all these powers come from?
If he cut the fights in half and had some character development or some sort of exposition it would be fine.
But for now it's just "power up", "fight" Edgy
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:39 pm

Yomi wrote: The way everyone is acting edgy all the time makes me cringe in absalon.
That´s my biggest gripe with Absalon, everything is so edgy, like is it trying to be Berserk or what? DBZ may have been serious in certain aspects but in no way was at the level Absalon is trying to be.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:10 pm

The show has 5 episodes that are at least 15-25 minutes. We still don't know what's going on and who are the bad guys are. What they are plan on trying to do. In DBZ, we learn about Radditz and who he was and what's his goals are by two chapters from what I can remember. Absalon is just pain bad even for a fan fiction. Dragon Ball New Age tells a better story and tries to do something different. While Absalon feels like it's made for the fans who only want action and no plot.
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Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:46 am

Not gonna lie, that opening fight looked pretty cool; shame the animation looked like it was ripped from a Zelda CD-i game.

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Post by ParkerAL » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:17 pm

You know, as easy as it is to make fun of Dragon Ball Absalon for its awful plot structure and deformed art, you can glimpse snippets of potential in that clip. Unless Mellavelli is tracing, as Ajay suggested, he is capable of animating impressive speed and interesting fight choreography. He just doesn't have a clear sense of pacing. His animation doesn't speed up or slow down at the right moments to make it flow together properly.
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Post by Shad73 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:57 pm

Here's what I honestly feel. Dragon ball Absalon has jumped the shark with its' latest episode and where I loved the stuff that came out before Episode Five, I just feel like the whole of what happened following the fight with Uub in the post-credits made me utterly hate the show. Besides, Mellavelli is a complete douchebag.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by ryou766 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:05 pm

This series is still ongoing?

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Post by Xeztin » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:15 pm

ryou766 wrote:This series is still ongoing?
Yup, I think there are 2 parts coming up this month or next month, I can't even remember :lol:

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by ryou766 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:23 pm

Only thing I find likable about the series is the outfit for Goku - reminds me of the clothing from SF. Other than that, it definitely doesn't feel like "Dragon Ball" to me.

Oob's children with Pan are lulz.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Xeztin » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:47 am

ryou766 wrote:Only thing I find likable about the series is the outfit for Goku - reminds me of the clothing from SF. Other than that, it definitely doesn't feel like "Dragon Ball" to me.

Oob's children with Pan are lulz.
It feels like GT at it's peak to me, and I'm not throwing off on GT I love it. I'm just saying the screaming and beat-down fights that's what it's mostly about but I enjoy it for what it is. I do agree that some ideas weren't thought out and having all these different colored haired SSJ4's is confusing. Like one guy has blue hair and he's a SSJ4 and another has red. I think it could be a decent story if it was just thought out far enough, but it feels like it's just a mashup of idea's he wrote down in his notebook. I did enjoy Gohan's and that Saiyan that laughs a lot's fight. I also think they are wayyyy too many different transformations, though I do like the black eyes that SSJ5 gets and can turn on and off. However, the fault is we get no explanation about why they can do that or what it does. If he had an "editor" or someone to help him story wise, it'd probably be a lot bigger. I don't really pay attention to twitter, but from his outbursts I don't think it helped him any from what I hear.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by ryou766 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:14 am

Outbursts?

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Xeztin » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:19 pm

ryou766 wrote:Outbursts?
Something about people not liking his work because of his nationality and that he was going to discontinue etc...

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:01 pm

My problem with the "edge" is that it doesn't fit with Dragonball GT. This is supposed to be a sequal to GT but it's over dark nature makes it hard to believe that we're watching the same characters and universe we saw in GT whether your comparing it to Funimations version or the original. Does anyone honestly buy that plucky, energetic Pan would grow up to be like she is in Absalon? Or that Trunks and Uub would act like Batman?

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by ryou766 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:06 pm

Xeztin wrote:
ryou766 wrote:Outbursts?
Something about people not liking his work because of his nationality and that he was going to discontinue etc...
That's.... Well, can't judge.

His animation skills are pretty good for an amateur.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Xeztin » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:06 pm

ringworm128 wrote:My problem with the "edge" is that it doesn't fit with Dragonball GT. This is supposed to be a sequal to GT but it's over dark nature makes it hard to believe that we're watching the same characters and universe we saw in GT whether your comparing it to Funimations version or the original. Does anyone honestly buy that plucky, energetic Pan would grow up to be like she is in Absalon? Or that Trunks and Uub would act like Batman?
Pan would be more like Videl in Z when she gave Gohan a hard time in my opinion, not as mean but feisty I guess you could say.

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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:38 pm

ryou766 wrote:
Xeztin wrote:
ryou766 wrote:Outbursts?
Something about people not liking his work because of his nationality and that he was going to discontinue etc...
That's.... Well, can't judge.

His animation skills are pretty good for an amateur.
He's been an amateur for 4 years now, he should have improved slightly or at least got someone to help him. It would be like if Dragonball Z Abridged was still like this after so many years.
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Post by Shad73 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:38 pm

Dragonball Absalon was a show that when you consider Melvin's status as being an asshole couldn't be hurt if you were sufficiently uninformed of his bad behavior. Knowing what he's actually like makes you not like the series at all.
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Re: Unofficial New DB Series Dragonball Absalon Episode 1

Post by sangofe » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:08 am

ringworm128 wrote:My problem with the "edge" is that it doesn't fit with Dragonball GT. This is supposed to be a sequal to GT but it's over dark nature makes it hard to believe that we're watching the same characters and universe we saw in GT whether your comparing it to Funimations version or the original. Does anyone honestly buy that plucky, energetic Pan would grow up to be like she is in Absalon? Or that Trunks and Uub would act like Batman?
Couldn't agree more. And to add to that, the character models are terrible. This feels like Batman meets Dragon Ball.

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